Draft thoughts and such

That's interesting that Floyd was the main target all along. Would have thought he was the smokescreen and Conklin was the target given the high bust rate of "tweener" type players like Floyd in a 4-3 system. Also suspected that the McAdoo/Conklin Michigan St. connection might have factored in as well as the fact that Conklin just seemed like a Giants type of draft pick. Its possible both the Giants and Floyd dodged a bullet there as Floyd should have a much better chance to thrive in a Fangio defense while Apple will have a much greater impact for us if he can successfully man that Giant void we have at slot corner.

first time and saw a Mel and Todd article raising red flags over two players the Giants could have wound up with.

Mel on Floyd: "I can see Georgia OLB Leonard Floyd as high as No. 10 to the Giants, but I question if his game lacks power. He didn't bench at either the combine or his pro day, so there's speculation about his strength. No question it's a concern." Both agreed that he was explosive rushing the passer.

On Hargreaves: Todd: "It's a bit alarming to see Vernon Hargreaves, the top cover corner in this year's draft, standing just 5-foot-10 with arms measuring 30 and 5/8 inches. That's close to red-flag territory."

Mel: "And when you factor in an average 40 time (4.50), I actually think he has fallen out of the top ten."

What would you have thought about Floyd with the 10th pick?

really enjoyed that. Thanks for posting this. With that said, a few typos exist in that piece. You might want to give it a once over.

pumping resources into the OL. You can't really build a well balanced roster that way. At some point you're going to have to get a couple of bargains on the line to play with your top pics/big money FAs.

Hitdog's impression of this interpretation

Fits to type - Jerry Reese loves him some long pass rushers who can still grow into their bodies.

In comment 12944007 xman said:

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Apple not a chance. But we can't draft pot heads.

He has just as much chance of being a bust as being an all pro.

Every single year these offensive linemen get pumped up as can't miss cornerstones, and then you look back three years later, and they're on the verge of losing their jobs.

Luke Joeckel - nope
Eric Fisher - barely above water
Greg Robinson - nope

All three were "can't miss" stars until they actually played.

In comment 12944139 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 12944007 xman said: Quote: Apple not a chance. But we can't draft pot heads. He has just as much chance of being a bust as being an all pro. Every single year these offensive linemen get pumped up as can't miss cornerstones, and then you look back three years later, and they're on the verge of losing their jobs. Luke Joeckel - nope Eric Fisher - barely above water Greg Robinson - nope All three were "can't miss" stars until they actually played.

Exactly. There were a number of reports of scouts sating that Tunsil was a bust waiting to happen. And a lot of people like Apple.

stuff Colin.

I am also an editor and proofreader. I can definitely improve the quality of your work product.

I am an attorney, and was a member of the Law Review and an award winning author in law school. I have years of experience writing and editing action alerts, legislation, press releases, publications, and talking points. I have performance reviews that specifically cite my editing abilities. I am also the author of a critically acclaimed book that has received many positive reviews on Amazon.

first, great stuff, Colin, thank you.

Perkins receives a lot of nice commentary for his all around talent, vision, quickness, and elusiveness (avoidance of hits and YA contact), etc. And no doubt he is fun to watch in the clips I've seen posted.

My question is whether playing behind the UCLA line is going to prove a good sample of what he might be capable of in the NFL. It looked to me, in almost all the clips featuring Perkins, that the UCLA OL was utterly dominant against the opposing DL. Either its OL had pushed the DL three or more yards off the LOS by the time Perkins took the handoff and was approaching LOS, or there was a very clean hole through which to run. Don't get me wrong: Perkins saw the holes and burst through them beautifully, and some of the holes were a bit tight, but they were clean.

When over the past four or more years have we seen the Giants' OL capable of that and what does that inadequacy portend for Perkins being able to show his strengths?

In comment 12943284 Chris684 said:

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This needs to be pinned. They made the right call standing pat. They couldnt have topped the Titans deal with Cleveland, and the Tampa Bay trade would have been much worse. This is a far cry from the running around like chickens without heads as their pick approached as has been portrayed by the media that the moronic fans seem to gobble. Looks like Floyd was their #1 guy (at the position they wanted to address first) and when the Myles Jack knee situation/media leaks started putting pressure on them they tried to throw out a red herring (Conklin) and/or move-up. When neither worked they moved on to their best guy at the next position they wanted to address. Text book.

Unfortunately, there isn't a lot to be pumped about regarding our #10 pick. I sure hope EA is a stud and is a differencemaker from day 1 but, I won't hold my breath. There was a huge drop in need/talent after pick#9. With the talent still available, I personally would have preferred Lawson/Doctson or even Decker. I hope my lack of football-talent acumen is born-out by EA's performance on the field.

Thanks. This was a very interesting read. I guess the lesson from the whole experience was that if the team really wanted Leonard Floyd, they should have kept their big mouths shut. The Bears still may have traded up out of speculation, but we'll never know. With all the leaks, the Giants shot themselves in the foot (although Apple may turn into a great player).

In comment 12943215 David in LA said:

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I thought this was about Annie Apple too.

I LOVE Annie Apple, fantastic lady, fantastic mom!

In comment 12943209 shockeyisthebest8056 said:

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I only came for the thots! Where are the thots at? I was promised thots! :)
Heck, why am I typing so much, I am going to need both hands for all the thots....

Sy mentioned that Apple has no physical presence in press coverage. Really, Dave Te Thomas quote,"Proving to be one of the most physical cornerbacks in college, he jammed/rerouted his main pass coverage assignments away from 38 incomplete passes last season, the second-highest total in the NCAA FBS ranks."

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Sy mentioned that Apple has no physical presence in press coverage. Really, Dave Te Thomas quote,"Proving to be one of the most physical cornerbacks in college, he jammed/rerouted his main pass coverage assignments away from 38 incomplete passes last season, the second-highest total in the NCAA FBS ranks."

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Sy wrote this about Apple:

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Apple is more physical than you would think initially, too. This guy can get up at the point of attack and really alter guys with the confidence that he can catch up if initially beat.

he could really commit to getting stronger and improve his press presence and technique, you could have something special here.