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2013 Draft one of the worst in NFL History

BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/3/2016 7:54 pm
Yet, the Giants picked 2 cornerstone players in it with Pugh and Hankins.

Reese deserves some credit for that draft. It could have set us back even more if he had missed on those 2 which could have easily happened.

The reason all these 5th year options are not being picked up is because these players aren't nearly as good.

I have attached a redraft article from Bleacher report. Both have Pugh and Hankins going in the first round.


2013 Redo! - ( New Window )
Dude, Pugh was a Reech! Typical Jerry.  
SoDev : 5/3/2016 8:05 pm : link
[insert stupid trexpic, hey look at me i treat my team like eagles fans]

So many clowns... please keep telling us how Apple was a reach, so you can eat shit some more. You know who you are.
strange order  
Chaka : 5/3/2016 8:07 pm : link
kiko alonso at 10; deandre hopkins at 17? Honey badger at 19?

cocaine is a helluva drug
My post wasn't directed at the OP.  
SoDev : 5/3/2016 8:08 pm : link
Unless he was one of them.
Yes, the group overall is not good but people have to be clear  
robbieballs2003 : 5/3/2016 8:08 pm : link
With what is happening. Just because they haven't exercised the option doesn't mean these teams don't want to resign them. We saw it with Martin. It gives the player a little kick in the ass. Now, if a team exercises the 5th year option on a player and they suck they can cut them without owing them anything so why wouldn't a team exercise it? Well, if that player gets injured then that money is fully guaranteed. Yikes. That would hurt. Washington exercised it on RGIII but there was little risk since he didn't play. It was insurance if Cousins didn't improve. To not exercise it helps get to a long term contract quicker, which in today's NFL is huge. Every year that passes these contracts are getting bigger and bigger. So, in short, there is a lot more that goes into it than a team just wanting to move on from that player.
RE: strange order  
SoDev : 5/3/2016 8:12 pm : link
In comment 12943680 Chaka said:
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kiko alonso at 10; deandre hopkins at 17? Honey badger at 19?

cocaine is a helluva drug


Agree. Order is a joke, but the point still stands, mostly.
Nobody cares where a player is drafted once he touches the field, and  
SoDev : 5/3/2016 8:16 pm : link
especially not 3 years later. The only questions are can he play, can/does he help our team?
That article  
allstarjim : 5/3/2016 8:16 pm : link
is over a year friggin' old. Not saying it's completely irrelevant, but a lot changes in a year. I think the earliest you should really assess a draft class is after 3 seasons.

Reese is one of the better GMs and he's respected around the league.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/3/2016 8:22 pm : link
He's made some mistakes and has admitted to most if not all..Ozzie Newsome, the vaunted Ozzie Newsome, hasn't done all that well throgh the recent years..

They're like placekickers..A few terrific years or at the very least good years, then downturns, usually followed by upturns..

Reese may or may not be on the hotseat, but imho, he's one of the best we've had, certainly since Young's heydays..
They got two really good  
compton : 5/3/2016 8:56 pm : link
starters and a decent backup QB out of that draft. What more do you want.
The problem the Giants have had isn't the talent on the team  
BillT : 5/3/2016 9:25 pm : link
It's the talent that was able to play. You tell me what team can lose 20 players a year to the IR and be any good. We just need a break injury wise so we can really see what kind of team this is.
RE: They got two really good  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2016 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12943772 compton said:
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starters and a decent backup QB out of that draft. What more do you want.


one of the better Reese drafts actually...
Yea no offense to the OP, but that  
chopperhatch : 5/3/2016 10:46 pm : link
article is doo doo poop.
that article is from last year  
DaddyM89 : 5/4/2016 12:15 am : link
which probably explains why someone like hopkins was so low
There are a whole lot of busts in that group sold  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/4/2016 2:04 am : link
As 'safe picks', just like every year.

I can't find a more recent redraft from this year  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/4/2016 6:24 am : link
But here is an article about how bad the 2013 draft was all together.
How bad was the 2013 draft - ( New Window )
Horrible draft,  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 5/4/2016 6:59 am : link
evidenced by a ton of teams declining a 5th year option on guys drafted in '13.

The Giants made out pretty well comparatively with Pugh & Hankins. And hopefully Nassib doesn't see the field anytime soon.
RE: Nobody cares where a player is drafted once he touches the field, and  
chris r : 5/4/2016 7:07 am : link
In comment 12943694 SoDev said:
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especially not 3 years later. The only questions are can he play, can/does he help our team?


That's a bunch of BS. If you took a long snapper over a franchise QB you're damn sure gonna care.
Since when is Pugh a better player than Long or Truffant?  
freddie wilson : 5/4/2016 7:31 am : link
I didn't want to bother with the slide show so I didn't read the article but other then picking Hankins I do not see anything to praise Reese for in that draft. As I recall that was yet another draft where the Giants would not trade down. I think Reese said they did not want to move down to near the end of the first. Of course we can't know how that might have turned out but it is not obvious that it would have been the wrong move.
IMO Reese's best  
ryanmkeane : 5/4/2016 7:31 am : link
draft of his career is 2014 - where he selected arguably the two best position players currently in the league at their respective crafts, Beckham and Richburg. Also got a starting linebacker Kennard who looks to be a player if he can just stay in the damn field.
RE: RE: Nobody cares where a player is drafted once he touches the field, and  
ryanmkeane : 5/4/2016 7:33 am : link
In comment 12944090 chris r said:
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In comment 12943694 SoDev said:


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especially not 3 years later. The only questions are can he play, can/does he help our team?



That's a bunch of BS. If you took a long snapper over a franchise QB you're damn sure gonna care.

I don't think that was the point. SoDev is saying - who cares if someone like Apple is drafted 10th or 25th in a trade back. If he's a stud, nobody will care. We aren't talking about a long snapper here.
RE: Since when is Pugh a better player than Long or Truffant?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/4/2016 8:42 am : link
In comment 12944097 freddie wilson said:
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I didn't want to bother with the slide show so I didn't read the article but other then picking Hankins I do not see anything to praise Reese for in that draft. As I recall that was yet another draft where the Giants would not trade down. I think Reese said they did not want to move down to near the end of the first. Of course we can't know how that might have turned out but it is not obvious that it would have been the wrong move.


We were picking 19, how much further did you want to go back?

Pugh is a versitale player that is currently playing guard, and can play RT and LT if needed. You don't find that kind of player often.

Hankins is a great pass rushing DT.

The draft could have been a complete disaster, but we came out with 2 solid pieces to build a team around.
RE: Nobody cares where a player is drafted once he touches the field, and  
Giants2012 : 5/4/2016 9:20 am : link
In comment 12943694 SoDev said:
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especially not 3 years later. The only questions are can he play, can/does he help our team?


Oh really? Coaches don't give the benefit of doubt to a higher draft choice and the higher dollars allocated toward that higher draft choice don't come into play?

Everyone has bad drafts  
Vanzetti : 5/4/2016 11:16 am : link
The thing you can blame Reese for is sticking with injured players like Snee and Baas. Instead of facing reality after 2012, Giants tried to patch up a leaky boat. And they just wound up making a bad situation worse by restructuring contracts and mortgaging the future.

Then they had the Coughlin problem, for which I blame ownership more than Reese.

Put those two together and 2013-5 were just lost years. But the important thing is the Giants are finally on the right track. Avanti!

All you need to know about the 2013 draft  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/4/2016 11:44 am : link
is when the NFL Network was showing the drafts from 2010-on a few weeks ago, they skipped 2013. I was going through it on the guide and I thought I missed something... no, they just skipped it altogether.
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