I had one dude (coach) who played D-III football at linebacker. And he's teaching me how to play offensive line? If there's nothing wrong with that, you tell me. I play offensive line. I don't play linebacker. I definitely didn't play D-III football. Not knocking D-III schools out there. We're talking about the highest level of football in the world. And you have a guy who has never put his hand in the dirt teaching me how to block.
True - Bostad was a linebacker at Wisconsin–Stevens Point. But he coached OL for twenty years before joining the Titans. While Warmack may have a valid point about Bostad teaching technique without having played the position, there's a lack of maturity evident in popping off about a coach who got fired and has to rebuild his career at Northern Illinois.
The Titans replaced Bostad with Russ Grimm. We'll see whether Warmack does any better under a coach whose playing credentials are way better than Chance Warmack's. In the meantime, Warmack should watch his mouth with free agency looming in 2017 after Tennessee waived his fifth-year option.
A bit arrogant, maybe. But he's also insightful and funny, and he admits that coming to the NFL from Oregon's offense, he had no idea what he was doing.
Richburg probably has the best one-liner: "Seven." Massie has some good ones too. He sounds pretty battle-scarred for a 26-year-old who plays a game for a living.
Along with Richburg, Pugh at another camp with MMA techniques for OL, and Hart working his butt off (literally?) To make the weight the Giants asked him to report at and working on foot speed drills posted on Twitter some time back.
Context, man, is everything. Haven't read the link to the whole article yet. But OL play in the NFL ain't what it used to be.
That's why they are here -- to get better. Mainly because they don't feel they get enough teaching from their own NFL coaches. The techniques taught by Bentley might be different than what these linemen are taught when they are with their teams, but the 30 guys who spend eight weeks here swear by the techniques. A lack of fundamental teaching is one reason for the poor state of line play, many of them say.
Limits on practice time have forced NFL coaches to spend most of their time installing the offense, rather than focusing on the tricks of the trade. That's led to sloppy play. There are other reasons for the deterioration of line play, such as the spread offense in college, free agency preventing cohesion, and little contact in practice, which limits growth together as a unit. Add it all up, and it's why the big guys up front have become the NFL players everybody loves to hate.
but I'm surprised more people on here aren't taking Richburg to task for his comments. He called his teammates uncommitted in the media. There were times that BBI an Giants fans considered it sacrosanct to keep that in the locker room.
Some have pointed out that Carl Banks called out the team for being soft. Many of us were saying the exact same thing. Now, our future ProBowl Center is calling out teammates to pick their game up. This is bad how? Hurt feelings? I don't care how hurt their feelings are. The Giants as a team need to get back to brawling, physical football. Richburg is leading the way.
but I'm surprised more people on here aren't taking Richburg to task for his comments. He called his teammates uncommitted in the media. There were times that BBI an Giants fans considered it sacrosanct to keep that in the locker room.
That's because most people posting on this thread assume he's talking about Jerry and Newhouse and they agree with calling those 2 out (even if he's really calling out the other 2).
A bit arrogant, maybe. But he's also insightful and funny, and he admits that coming to the NFL from Oregon's offense, he had no idea what he was doing.
Richburg probably has the best one-liner: "Seven." Massie has some good ones too. He sounds pretty battle-scarred for a 26-year-old who plays a game for a living.
Warmack comes across as a total sh!thead.
Long pointing out how more prepared Alabama lineman are for the NFL than the rest just went into Saban's recruiting packet.
but I'm surprised more people on here aren't taking Richburg to task for his comments. He called his teammates uncommitted in the media.
He also took a shot at Coughlin IMO when he mentioned there isn't much teaching . . . sink or swim.
Who knows what the linemen are doing behind the scenes yet i think it's a safe bet we have no heard the last of this.
I think you're misinterpreting the context of his comments on "sink or swim."
The . . . Is part of the message. It wasn't Coughlin who had a sink or swim perspective. It's up to the players yet the he mention there really isn't much coaching. Being the Giants have developed so few, and that could be the talent, i wonder b/c the head coach is really emphasizing teaching going forward. Personally, i saw three OTA practices and not sure what was being taught or learned as the vets just clowned around to the side and many just stood and watched.
either find a decent RT to replace the dumpster fire that is newhouse or they move pugh out to RT again and can find an OG to insert at LG (hart?) ideally they also find another OG to replace jerry who is only a dumpster fire on some plays not every play the way newhouse is
they could maybe get by with a starting line of
flowers - hart - richberg - jerry - pugh
but they couldnt afford a single injury to the OL unless they get some better depth or better yet a full time replacement for jerry too maybe re-sign beatty for RT then
True - Bostad was a linebacker at Wisconsin–Stevens Point. But he coached OL for twenty years before joining the Titans. While Warmack may have a valid point about Bostad teaching technique without having played the position, there's a lack of maturity evident in popping off about a coach who got fired and has to rebuild his career at Northern Illinois.
The Titans replaced Bostad with Russ Grimm. We'll see whether Warmack does any better under a coach whose playing credentials are way better than Chance Warmack's. In the meantime, Warmack should watch his mouth with free agency looming in 2017 after Tennessee waived his fifth-year option.
Richburg probably has the best one-liner: "Seven." Massie has some good ones too. He sounds pretty battle-scarred for a 26-year-old who plays a game for a living.
Warmack comes across as a total sh!thead.
Have you all faced stubborn coaches who want it done their way and only their way?
Richburg: They try and put you in a cookie-cutter.
Noooo, Tom Coughlin's coaches would never do that.
Context, man, is everything. Haven't read the link to the whole article yet. But OL play in the NFL ain't what it used to be.
Limits on practice time have forced NFL coaches to spend most of their time installing the offense, rather than focusing on the tricks of the trade. That's led to sloppy play. There are other reasons for the deterioration of line play, such as the spread offense in college, free agency preventing cohesion, and little contact in practice, which limits growth together as a unit. Add it all up, and it's why the big guys up front have become the NFL players everybody loves to hate.
He also took a shot at Coughlin IMO when he mentioned there isn't much teaching . . . sink or swim.
Who knows what the linemen are doing behind the scenes yet i think it's a safe bet we have no heard the last of this.
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but I'm surprised more people on here aren't taking Richburg to task for his comments. He called his teammates uncommitted in the media.
He also took a shot at Coughlin IMO when he mentioned there isn't much teaching . . . sink or swim.
Who knows what the linemen are doing behind the scenes yet i think it's a safe bet we have no heard the last of this.
I think you're misinterpreting the context of his comments on "sink or swim."
That's because most people posting on this thread assume he's talking about Jerry and Newhouse and they agree with calling those 2 out (even if he's really calling out the other 2).
Richburg probably has the best one-liner: "Seven." Massie has some good ones too. He sounds pretty battle-scarred for a 26-year-old who plays a game for a living.
Warmack comes across as a total sh!thead.
Long pointing out how more prepared Alabama lineman are for the NFL than the rest just went into Saban's recruiting packet.
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but I'm surprised more people on here aren't taking Richburg to task for his comments. He called his teammates uncommitted in the media.
He also took a shot at Coughlin IMO when he mentioned there isn't much teaching . . . sink or swim.
Who knows what the linemen are doing behind the scenes yet i think it's a safe bet we have no heard the last of this.
I think you're misinterpreting the context of his comments on "sink or swim."
The . . . Is part of the message. It wasn't Coughlin who had a sink or swim perspective. It's up to the players yet the he mention there really isn't much coaching. Being the Giants have developed so few, and that could be the talent, i wonder b/c the head coach is really emphasizing teaching going forward. Personally, i saw three OTA practices and not sure what was being taught or learned as the vets just clowned around to the side and many just stood and watched.
they could maybe get by with a starting line of
flowers - hart - richberg - jerry - pugh
but they couldnt afford a single injury to the OL unless they get some better depth or better yet a full time replacement for jerry too maybe re-sign beatty for RT then
flowers - pugh - richberg - hart - beatty
and jerry as a backup?