Whay are so many fans down on Rashad Jennings?

The 2016 Thunder and Lightning.

There's no reason to be concerned with the one, two punch of Jennings and Vereen. The concern should be focused on the OL.

I saw him get stronger and more effective as last season progressed. That said he isn't a 'bell cow' back. He has the ability to be the lead guy in a rotational situation at best.

Is what he is, had a good year last year

I like him. Could be better, could be worse (Andre Williams)

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with this post. Jennings is the man. I think he McAdoo won't fall prey to the same "get a guy in for a series for the sake of it" approach. I expect Jennings to be our bell cow this year.

In comment 12946968 Cruzin said:

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There's no reason to be concerned with the one, two punch of Jennings and Vereen. The concern should be focused on the OL.

mmmm i will disagree i dont think he is a top 15 RB in the NFL all things considered. IDC what he did in a few meaningless games, he is an average back at BEST. i would be willing to argue that there are 20 teams that have a better day 1 starter. Im not saying he stinks and cut him but he is just a bland RB and in the NFL you need playmakers at those skill positions. Personally i wouldnt mind one bit if perkins was giving the starting job, in fact i would be more excited to see what he has as opposed to jennings.

We have a couple of shiny new ball carriers so let's throw the old ones away. Nothing more.

It will all shake out in August

In comment 12946984 CaptSehorn said:

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We have a couple of shiny new ball carriers so let's throw the old ones away. Nothing more. It will all shake out in August

yea thats possible but i have been saying im not a fan of jennings at all...i do agree though that syndrome exists

In comment 12946891 mirwin said:

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Beginning and end thread, lol. I want to like him, but every time I take that leap and say to myself "wow, this guy's pretty good" he either gets hurt or disappears for 3 straight weeks.

In comment 12946979 BleedBlue said:

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In comment 12946968 Cruzin said: Quote: There's no reason to be concerned with the one, two punch of Jennings and Vereen. The concern should be focused on the OL. mmmm i will disagree i dont think he is a top 15 RB in the NFL all things considered. IDC what he did in a few meaningless games, he is an average back at BEST. i would be willing to argue that there are 20 teams that have a better day 1 starter. Im not saying he stinks and cut him but he is just a bland RB and in the NFL you need playmakers at those skill positions. Personally i wouldnt mind one bit if perkins was giving the starting job, in fact i would be more excited to see what he has as opposed to jennings.

To be fair, in a 32 team league being average is pretty close to a top 15 back. If you're 15th.

for 15-17 carries per game and Vereen/Perkins for the rest. Williams can take a hike.

In comment 12946988 Bill L said:

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In comment 12946979 BleedBlue said: Quote: In comment 12946968 Cruzin said: Quote: There's no reason to be concerned with the one, two punch of Jennings and Vereen. The concern should be focused on the OL. mmmm i will disagree i dont think he is a top 15 RB in the NFL all things considered. IDC what he did in a few meaningless games, he is an average back at BEST. i would be willing to argue that there are 20 teams that have a better day 1 starter. Im not saying he stinks and cut him but he is just a bland RB and in the NFL you need playmakers at those skill positions. Personally i wouldnt mind one bit if perkins was giving the starting job, in fact i would be more excited to see what he has as opposed to jennings. To be fair, in a 32 team league being average is pretty close to a top 15 back. If you're 15th.

good point but he didnt say 15th best he said top 15, im saying at best 16th and as i mentioned id argue he isnt top 20.
i would take elliot over him by alot lol

is to stay healthy - he really hasn't shown any ability to play a full season.

looks like he played all 16 last year. My memory is fading..

In comment 12946996 ryanmkeane said:

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looks like he played all 16 last year. My memory is fading..

he dressed for all 16 but was MIA so it seemed like he didnt even suit up lol

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are your RBs

Last year.

a hard worker and a model citizen, a guy you just love to have on your team. That said he's getting old and i'd love an injection of new talent with him as the RB1 and mentor.

Vereen is awesome but he should really be used sparingly in the running game. Get him the ball in space and out of the slot.

In apparently an effort to keep him fresh, he was used sparingly more often than not, which led to him staying fresh, but finally admitting he needs the ball on the regular to get in a groove.

Once that happened late in the season, he was one of our best players on the field.

And no, he's not a 30 carry per game back...nor even 20 on average...but there is zero reason Andre Williams should be taking carries from him, that's what Vereen and now Perkins are for.

The difference in vision and ability to find creases in traffic between Jennings and Williams is night and day.

but it is time to bring along a young rb like Perkins to be ready to take over when Jennings does start to show age and his productivity decreases. I don't completely agree that mileage is the only factor and age doesn't matter. I think they're both factors.

both are pretty horrible at it.

probably more as a teammate than an actual player. But he just isn't dynamic and I don't think he's any better than anyone else in short yardage.

at best.

Nice big play in the Buffalo game this past season. I am hard pressed to remember any other big time plays. Well that blocked punt was cool.

Seems slow, does not really power over defenders, scares no D catching the ball out of the backfield. Does not appear to be elusive.

Does not get in the end zone when the field shrinks. Of course the o line plays a role, but still.

A grade him a C back. I could not off the top of my head name 15 guys better, but I doubt he is a top fifteen back.

He's the slowest starter in the league, and makes the OL look worse due to how SLOW he is?

against the Eagles came when both teams seasons were over. Giants still lost too.

but he's not even close to the reason this team has been bad the last few years. I like what he brings.

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Being down on Jennings, imo, has more to do with his ability to stay on the field and not his talent. I think he's as solid as most NFL backs that have success.

He reminds me of Kennard...hard to get too excited about them in 2017 knowing their injury history. I'm glad they have Perkins to back him up and Goodson for that matter.

In comment 12946991 BleedBlue said:

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In comment 12946988 Bill L said: Quote: In comment 12946979 BleedBlue said: Quote: In comment 12946968 Cruzin said: Quote: There's no reason to be concerned with the one, two punch of Jennings and Vereen. The concern should be focused on the OL. mmmm i will disagree i dont think he is a top 15 RB in the NFL all things considered. IDC what he did in a few meaningless games, he is an average back at BEST. i would be willing to argue that there are 20 teams that have a better day 1 starter. Im not saying he stinks and cut him but he is just a bland RB and in the NFL you need playmakers at those skill positions. Personally i wouldnt mind one bit if perkins was giving the starting job, in fact i would be more excited to see what he has as opposed to jennings. To be fair, in a 32 team league being average is pretty close to a top 15 back. If you're 15th. good point but he didnt say 15th best he said top 15, im saying at best 16th and as i mentioned id argue he isnt top 20. i would take elliot over him by alot lol

So Jennings is not top 15, he's 16th? OK, thanks for playing.

In comment 12947085 Cruzin said:

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In comment 12946991 BleedBlue said: Quote: In comment 12946988 Bill L said: Quote: In comment 12946979 BleedBlue said: Quote: In comment 12946968 Cruzin said: Quote: There's no reason to be concerned with the one, two punch of Jennings and Vereen. The concern should be focused on the OL. mmmm i will disagree i dont think he is a top 15 RB in the NFL all things considered. IDC what he did in a few meaningless games, he is an average back at BEST. i would be willing to argue that there are 20 teams that have a better day 1 starter. Im not saying he stinks and cut him but he is just a bland RB and in the NFL you need playmakers at those skill positions. Personally i wouldnt mind one bit if perkins was giving the starting job, in fact i would be more excited to see what he has as opposed to jennings. To be fair, in a 32 team league being average is pretty close to a top 15 back. If you're 15th. good point but he didnt say 15th best he said top 15, im saying at best 16th and as i mentioned id argue he isnt top 20. i would take elliot over him by alot lol So Jennings is not top 15, he's 16th? OK, thanks for playing.

no i said he isnt top 20...

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In comment 12947059 rocco8112 said:

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against the Eagles came when both teams seasons were over. Giants still lost too.

Bradshaw did his part. Being critical of that effort seems stupid to me

I believe that people just think he is a stop-gap, which he is, and cannot really stay healthy enough to be the feature guy. He isnt really dynamic either, so it is hard to get too excited over his play. He is a solid back, but I wouldn't list him in the Top 20 backs in this league.

Think Jennings has less wear and tear then a normal 31 YO RB , he was a backup most of the time in Jville and Oakland, but is injury prone, i dont think Andre Williams makes unless he has an eye popping preseason and camp. Hes just way too easy to find and tackle.

but this may be his last year with the Giants if one of Darkwa or Perkins emerges for a late season stretch run like AB had.

He is not super fast,super elusive or an amazing pass catcher out of the backfield. However is versatile and reliable when healthy. I personally like the more explosive Darkwa if he can continue to improve his overall game.

wanting better.

He's not going to hold this team back. He won't carry the team or make game changing plays on his own for the most part but he's a good player and he runs hard. He also seems like a really humble dude and he's easy to root for.

The RB rotation was a disaster last year. The carousel made no sense. One guy (usually Jennings) would have a strong series and then get plastered on the sideline for the next 2 and not see the field for an entire quarter. Hopefully a lesson was learned there.

Let him be the lead back and he'll do what we need.

of the Jennings haters. He is still a good RB IMO, and he would have been a lot better if he had the chance to carry it more consistently, and Andre Williams was anywhere but on the Giants. Kuhn was head scratching horrible and Williams is the same way. Please dont let such inexplicably horrible player evaluation continue with this team under McAdoo, These guys who live football 24/7/365 can't see what is obvious to anyone with any level of football understanding: Andre Williams is terrible!!! Shouldn't be on the field outside of all other RBs being incapacitated, and even then I would rather have a UFA rookie from a D 3 school with some speed and a little vision. NO MORE! PLEASE! This Perkins guy might be pretty good, but he's not going to take over the starting role. Darkwa will also be a pretty good player, but Jennings still deserves to be the lead back until proven otherwise.

He was no Spring Chicken when he came to the Giants and did very, very well.
Stir up your memories guys.

Really bright, articulate seemed committed to helping the team win.
No one complained when we had running back by committee name thunder , lightening and rain ...or something like that with Jacobs, bradshaw and Ware.

Comparing a cheap FA pick up to the fourth pick in the draft is just dopey. I don't know how you compare ball players but if you think in relative terms, I think I'd rather have Jennings and the no. 4 pick in the draft than Zeke.

for the playoffs run...

In comment 12947372 grizz299 said:

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Really bright, articulate seemed committed to helping the team win. No one complained when we had running back by committee name thunder , lightening and rain ...or something like that with Jacobs, bradshaw and Ware. Comparing a cheap FA pick up to the fourth pick in the draft is just dopey. I don't know how you compare ball players but if you think in relative terms, I think I'd rather have Jennings and the no. 4 pick in the draft than Zeke.

Earth, wind and fire was was jacobs/bradshaw/ward (Idk if those were their respective nickanmes, but that group). "thunder and lighting" was tiki + dayne (lol 'thunder').

Also, I think the 08 group was much better talent wise, and then boosted by a great line. I also think the current Giants are close to putting that line together. I believe we would have taken Conklin if available, but now that we didn't, I realize that it's better to wait until we find a guy we like long term for the right side that the team likes for 3-4 years before rushing to sign/trade the first viable person (Davis, Slauson), because we are a couple of savvy moves away having an above average talented line develop 3-4 years together to become a unit greater than the sum of their parts...and by extension a few years from potentially having the best line in the league 08 style in a couple years. (no mcnally though so who knows)

They've invested in this unit and I'm excited for them to finish it, and I think that they may just get it to be near dominant right as we enter the last 1-3 seasons of Eli, giving him (and more importantly, us) a chance at that 3rd ring of the Eli era.

In comment 12947108 AP in Halfmoon said:

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In comment 12947059 rocco8112 said: Quote: against the Eagles came when both teams seasons were over. Giants still lost too. Bradshaw did his part. Being critical of that effort seems stupid to me

Good effort no doubt, I just would not get too excited over how he ended last season.

I hope he is a top back this year. In my opinion watching as a fan, his time with the team has been nothing to write home about. Hopefully the o line and team overall improves which could help him raise his game.

Average at best so far.

Make the committee better.

"The Bell Cow" has been slaughtered... it's not necessarily a benefit.

Also ran behind O'Hara crew...

We have John Jerry today

his lack of durability is what caused TC to go with the RB by committee approach in an effort to keep Jennings healthy for the playoff run, which unfortunately never happened

Came to play every week if everyone on the roster
played like he did we may have won a few more games.
His running style tends to lead him to injuries
at 30 he's on the downside of his career .