to defend this staggering piece of shit. That stupid fucking statue should be melted down and poured over any idiot that still tries to defend him Game of Thrones style.
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
I hope you are being sarcastic.
He's not. He's a presumptuous tool who makes excuses for abhorrent behavior.
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
I hope you are being sarcastic.
He's not. He's a presumptuous tool who makes excuses for abhorrent behavior.
You forgot to add the political nonsense you silly little fucktard
For a basketball camp. On opening night, Paterno was there welcoming the football campers andvIngot to meet him and shake his hand as we were all in the same auditorium for the camp welcome. It was 1976.
Where's the evidence? Where are the real witnesses? Paterno and Penn State have raised millions of dollars for charity. He didn't know what was going on. He was the football coach!
Does that about cover it, weirdo cultist quasi-pro-child abuse Paterno wack jobs? Save your putrid breath. You're welcome.
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
I hope you are being sarcastic.
He's not. He's a presumptuous tool who makes excuses for abhorrent behavior.
You forgot to add the political nonsense you silly little fucktard
48 Hours did a piece on how much everyone knew what was going on. Teachers at those schools, yes middle school knew what Sandusky club was all about for years and said nothing. Hell some of the school administration recommended boys for the club. A disgrace in the highest order.
It is truly a cult mentality in Happy Valley. Everybody drinking the kool-aid.
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
disagree entirely, there is a lot of value to this story.
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
disagree entirely, there is a lot of value to this story.
Montana's "go to" defense is just like those he employs when he defends any one of the scum bag public figures he decides to...if it's not being talked about any more, forget it ever happened.
is in court trying to get a new trial. That's where this information is coming from. Says he's innocent too. Penn State is trying to recoup 60 million dollars through their insurance company. The insurance company is fighting it and has surprisingly found some "new alleged" information that would be to their advantage. They wrote it in their court order themselves, so it must be true!
It really is a shame he died so soon after this broke. Â
and ESPN classic has taken but If I were in charge I would give the death penalty to any Penn State highlights from the so called glory years. I know that may not be fair to the innocent players who gave it their all and had nothing to do with this mess but it's hard watching those any highlight reel know what people on the sidelines knew at the time!
Sandusky is a sicko but the people who enabled him for so many years were truly terrible human beings. How did Paterno sleep at night? And how does Sandusky still fight to get his convictions overturned. 45 counts against him with apparently numerous additional victims who weren't included in this criminal case.
But seriously, do you people read and understand English?
The very brief linked article uses the word "allegedly"
al·leg·ed·ly
əˈlejədlē/
adverb
used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.
Unlike many people that hold a strong opinion on this issue, I read every word of the 200+ page report that was produced by the independent commission, and there was very little direct evidence of Paterno burying information. Yeah, he should have followed up after he did report it, but as I said, there's not much in the way of incontrovertible evidence.
But feel free to flame away.
You signed up and registered to defend Joe Paterno? Â
If he did not know, it is because he did not want to know.
I believed all that stuff that it was a clean program, I was wrong -- there is no clean program at any college.
This is so much worst than all the other forms of cheating, in other college football programs.
from link on sentencing of former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, below
"As a 17-year-old boy, I was devastated," he said. "I tried to figure out why Coach Hastert had singled me out." He endured years of guilt, isolation and sleeplessness, he told the court. "Today I understand I did nothing to bring this on, but at age 17, I could not understand what happened or why."
" U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study estimates it could be as high as 1 of every 6 men — hide what happened to them for years. They tell no one. But every so often, something happens to crack the silence. " Link - ( New Window )
is in court trying to get a new trial. That's where this information is coming from. Says he's innocent too. Penn State is trying to recoup 60 million dollars through their insurance company. The insurance company is fighting it and has surprisingly found some "new alleged" information that would be to their advantage. They wrote it in their court order themselves, so it must be true!
So, you think the insurance company just made stuff up and wrote up the fictitious accounts in their briefs that are official court records?
Sandusky is a sicko but the people who enabled him for so many years were truly terrible human beings. How did Paterno sleep at night? And how does Sandusky still fight to get his convictions overturned. 45 counts against him with apparently numerous additional victims who weren't included in this criminal case.
completely brainwashed oblivious trash bags with no fucking clue or common sense who find it's ok to abuse children but not tarnish a football coach's legacy State!
The 94 season holds some great childhood memories. That said, I no longer even bother to watch the games anymore. To see so many otherwise rational, well adjusted adults not only run to defend Paterno but actually play the victim/persecution card...it makes me sick.
Directly to those defending/making excuses/playing semantics (well it only says "allegedly")...what in Gods name is wrong with you? What would it take for you to see these positively abhorrent actions for what they are? Does your own child have to become a victim? I mean, seriously, what in the hell is wrong with you people?
STATE COLLEGE, Pa.—At Saturday’s Penn State football game, many of the nearly 100,000 fans will be wearing khaki pants with the cuffs rolled up, white shirts and thick black glasses in a tribute to late head football coach Joe Paterno.
There will be cardboard Paterno cut-outs and a postgame candlelight vigil on the spot where his statue stood before the university removed it in 2012 amid fallout from an assistant coach’s child sex-abuse scandal.
“We’re not going away,” said Laurie Stanell, a 58-year-old dentist from Doylestown, Pa., who graduated from Penn State in 1980 and is behind the sartorial shout-out. “We’re just going to keep honoring him and pushing for the university to come back on board.”
During the trial there wasn't anything said about any incidents before the late 90s. Now the school is handing out money hand and fist, and suddenly someone is claiming they spoke to Paterno two decades earlier. It's beyond any statute of limitations, so no investigation. Paterno is long dead, Sandusky has denied everything from the start, so that's not going to change. And Penn State is so worried about its reputation, it's basically OKing every claim out there. Whenever anyone is handing out money, false claims come out everytime from people looking to get rich. I would not be surprised if this was one of them.
Of course, I will be labeled a Paterno apologist for suggesting that there may be a few people out there lying out their ass to get rich of this case. Because while there were people willing to lie out their asses to make money off of 9/11, this case is beyond reproach.
Sandusky is in jail for life, Paterno is worm food, Curley, Spanier and Schultz are probably never go to trial (ugh...). Anyone involved in this is either dead, in jail, or had their reputations utterly destroyed. I'm not saying move on, because anyone with a legitimate case likely can't. But I'm just so fucking tired of hearing about this shit.
But I know several people who knew Joe. I am 75 and he was older. I suspect this is hard for many of you to understand, but in the world that we grew up in the illusion was that this didn't happen. This was a world where the F word wasn't spoken. If we heard about things like that it was in another world and it's hard to imagine a football type doing anything so hideous. Maybe the Nazi's but not a red blooded American.
Mock me all you want but Joe was a good ten years older and I think he just couldn't believe it. And I think if he had he would have done something. The demonizing that's going on here and the assumption that any decent man wouldn't have done something seems excessive.
If it can be proved that he know and did nothing to protect his program then I'll light the torches, but until then I simply choose not to believe.
But the "I'm old and can't fathom such a thing" is no excuse for allowing this to happen by not saying something. Some of you guys must've been lawyers for the Catholic Church at one point. It's despicable. Gtfoh.
Um, no. I signed up weeks ago for reasons entirely un-related to this thread.
And to be clear, if my son had been one of the kids abused by Sandusky, I'd happily cover him in napalm and drop him into a pit of fire ants.
And yes there was definitly a culture of protect the program at all costs at Penn State.
All i'm looking for is PROOF and EVIDENCE of Paterno's involvement.
Have you read the entire report?
.
But feel free to proceed as an emotional douchebag.
What kind of proof and evidence do you want? Do you expect there to be some kind of video of him molesting a boy? I think the sheer volume of victims is proof enough. Is it possible some people lied? Yes it is but it doesn't take away from the fact that everyone who knew about this and did nothing deserves to be punished. Sandusky deserves to burn in hell.
Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
disagree entirely, there is a lot of value to this story.
Montana's "go to" defense is just like those he employs when he defends any one of the scum bag public figures he decides to...if it's not being talked about any more, forget it ever happened.
Par for the course.
Translation:
"Hey look, I already got bitch slapped once is there anyone I can tag team on your shoulders?"
I hope you are being sarcastic.
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Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
I hope you are being sarcastic.
He's not. He's a presumptuous tool who makes excuses for abhorrent behavior.
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Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
I hope you are being sarcastic.
He's not. He's a presumptuous tool who makes excuses for abhorrent behavior.
You forgot to add the political nonsense you silly little fucktard
What a phony
Does that about cover it, weirdo cultist quasi-pro-child abuse Paterno wack jobs? Save your putrid breath. You're welcome.
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In comment 12947264 montanagiant said:
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Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
I hope you are being sarcastic.
He's not. He's a presumptuous tool who makes excuses for abhorrent behavior.
You forgot to add the political nonsense you silly little fucktard
Whoahoho! Good one!
It is truly a cult mentality in Happy Valley. Everybody drinking the kool-aid.
disagree entirely, there is a lot of value to this story.
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Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
disagree entirely, there is a lot of value to this story.
Montana's "go to" defense is just like those he employs when he defends any one of the scum bag public figures he decides to...if it's not being talked about any more, forget it ever happened.
Par for the course.
Fuck Paterno.
I can't wait to hear your impassioned defense of this piece of shit.
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College Station? Idiots.
I can't wait to hear your impassioned defense of this piece of shit.
You wouldn't listen anyway. No fucking sense.
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College Station? Idiots.
I can't wait to hear your impassioned defense of this piece of shit.
You wouldn't listen anyway. No fucking sense.
You are an embarrassment.
and have no ties to Penn State
But seriously, do you people read and understand English?
The very brief linked article uses the word "allegedly"
al·leg·ed·ly
əˈlejədlē/
adverb
used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.
Unlike many people that hold a strong opinion on this issue, I read every word of the 200+ page report that was produced by the independent commission, and there was very little direct evidence of Paterno burying information. Yeah, he should have followed up after he did report it, but as I said, there's not much in the way of incontrovertible evidence.
But feel free to flame away.
Come on prison boys!
If he did not know, it is because he did not want to know.
I believed all that stuff that it was a clean program, I was wrong -- there is no clean program at any college.
This is so much worst than all the other forms of cheating, in other college football programs.
from link on sentencing of former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, below
"As a 17-year-old boy, I was devastated," he said. "I tried to figure out why Coach Hastert had singled me out." He endured years of guilt, isolation and sleeplessness, he told the court. "Today I understand I did nothing to bring this on, but at age 17, I could not understand what happened or why."
" U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study estimates it could be as high as 1 of every 6 men — hide what happened to them for years. They tell no one. But every so often, something happens to crack the silence. "
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on a pile of money.
Directly to those defending/making excuses/playing semantics (well it only says "allegedly")...what in Gods name is wrong with you? What would it take for you to see these positively abhorrent actions for what they are? Does your own child have to become a victim? I mean, seriously, what in the hell is wrong with you people?
There will be cardboard Paterno cut-outs and a postgame candlelight vigil on the spot where his statue stood before the university removed it in 2012 amid fallout from an assistant coach’s child sex-abuse scandal.
“We’re not going away,” said Laurie Stanell, a 58-year-old dentist from Doylestown, Pa., who graduated from Penn State in 1980 and is behind the sartorial shout-out. “We’re just going to keep honoring him and pushing for the university to come back on board.”
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Of course, I will be labeled a Paterno apologist for suggesting that there may be a few people out there lying out their ass to get rich of this case. Because while there were people willing to lie out their asses to make money off of 9/11, this case is beyond reproach.
Sandusky is in jail for life, Paterno is worm food, Curley, Spanier and Schultz are probably never go to trial (ugh...). Anyone involved in this is either dead, in jail, or had their reputations utterly destroyed. I'm not saying move on, because anyone with a legitimate case likely can't. But I'm just so fucking tired of hearing about this shit.
Mock me all you want but Joe was a good ten years older and I think he just couldn't believe it. And I think if he had he would have done something. The demonizing that's going on here and the assumption that any decent man wouldn't have done something seems excessive.
If it can be proved that he know and did nothing to protect his program then I'll light the torches, but until then I simply choose not to believe.
Might also be a good time for Matt Lauer to give that poor woman Dottie Sandusky another chance to set the record straight.
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Um, no. I signed up weeks ago for reasons entirely un-related to this thread.
And to be clear, if my son had been one of the kids abused by Sandusky, I'd happily cover him in napalm and drop him into a pit of fire ants.
And yes there was definitly a culture of protect the program at all costs at Penn State.
All i'm looking for is PROOF and EVIDENCE of Paterno's involvement.
Have you read the entire report?
.
But feel free to proceed as an emotional douchebag.
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lmao! What a piece of shit.
Um, no. I signed up weeks ago for reasons entirely un-related to this thread.
And to be clear, if my son had been one of the kids abused by Sandusky, I'd happily cover him in napalm and drop him into a pit of fire ants.
And yes there was definitly a culture of protect the program at all costs at Penn State.
All i'm looking for is PROOF and EVIDENCE of Paterno's involvement.
Have you read the entire report?
.
But feel free to proceed as an emotional douchebag.
What kind of proof and evidence do you want? Do you expect there to be some kind of video of him molesting a boy? I think the sheer volume of victims is proof enough. Is it possible some people lied? Yes it is but it doesn't take away from the fact that everyone who knew about this and did nothing deserves to be punished. Sandusky deserves to burn in hell.
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Everyone outside of the College Station fanatics know he knew about this for awhile. Its time to let it go and hope a lesson has been learned by all involved
disagree entirely, there is a lot of value to this story.
Montana's "go to" defense is just like those he employs when he defends any one of the scum bag public figures he decides to...if it's not being talked about any more, forget it ever happened.
Par for the course.
Translation:
"Hey look, I already got bitch slapped once is there anyone I can tag team on your shoulders?"