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ZGiants98 : 5/6/2016 9:50 am
DeGrom says his elbow was way too low, issue was mechanical. Nice to see his velocity topping out 94-96.

Warthen says Syndergaard has to be quicker to the plate.
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arcarsenal : 5/6/2016 12:58 pm : link
So a friend of mine just texted me and says his buddy shot him a message that he heard on ESPN radio "unconfirmed reports" that Cespedes is about to get nailed with a suspension for PED's.

Has to be bullshit, right? I don't see ANYTHING about this anywhere.

Didn't hear it myself, no idea who my friends friend is.. obviously it just scared the crap out of me because it's something that would happen to us.
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PhiPsi125 : 5/6/2016 1:00 pm : link
In comment 12948299 arcarsenal said:
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So a friend of mine just texted me and says his buddy shot him a message that he heard on ESPN radio "unconfirmed reports" that Cespedes is about to get nailed with a suspension for PED's.

Has to be bullshit, right? I don't see ANYTHING about this anywhere.

Didn't hear it myself, no idea who my friends friend is.. obviously it just scared the crap out of me because it's something that would happen to us.


If true, that would just be so Mets-like.

Ugh.
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arcarsenal : 5/6/2016 1:01 pm : link
It has to be BS, I literally can't find one single thing about it anywhere. I just wanted someone like Dan or Shecky to shoot it down so I knew for sure.
Cespedes was already caught in 2012  
Vanzetti : 5/6/2016 1:07 pm : link
If this is true, it would be his second violation.

Sandy has a long history of being associated with PEDs, beginning in Oakland. He also signs guys with a history, such as Bartolo and Bastardo.

So, let's hope this is not true.
I pray not  
spike : 5/6/2016 1:09 pm : link
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I don't think this is true  
Vanzetti : 5/6/2016 1:53 pm : link
I'm more worried about him being trampled by his hog. It happened to Old Yeller
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arcarsenal : 5/6/2016 2:02 pm : link
Yeah, I think we can safely put it to bed. Didn't mean to sound any alarms... I just figured this would be the easiest way to debunk it. My heart just stopped for a second when I got his text like "you can't be serious..." but after a quick look around I realized it had no legs at all and was almost certainly BS.
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DanMetroMan : 5/6/2016 2:09 pm : link
haven't heard a whiff of this from any of the people I speak to though I will say Shecky actually knows people close to them team so he would know more than me.
I mean they are about to release a list  
ZGiants98 : 5/6/2016 3:48 pm : link
and nail a bunch of players. They have been very public about that. Its not impossible. Lets hope not.
Cubs lead the Nats again  
Ron Johnson : 5/6/2016 3:59 pm : link
Arietta looming on Sunday. Could be a sweep

We need to take advantage
Not that there's any validity  
Stufftherun : 5/6/2016 4:00 pm : link
to the so-called rumor but who here has looked at Cespedes, watched his play and thought there's no way in hell he's gassed to the gills with some Cuban high test?
Scherzer off to a pretty crappy start also this season  
PhiPsi125 : 5/6/2016 4:30 pm : link
That is...until he faces the Mets. Book it.
the Cubs are doing this to everybody  
Ron Johnson : 5/6/2016 4:36 pm : link
they look tough
Ollie Perez  
Ron Johnson : 5/6/2016 4:39 pm : link
in relief ..... Nats throw in the towel today
RE: Scherzer off to a pretty crappy start also this season  
pjcas18 : 5/6/2016 4:42 pm : link
In comment 12948704 PhiPsi125 said:
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That is...until he faces the Mets. Book it.


Agree, when the Mets need him to be bad he won't be.

But I saw his contract tweeted about today. Holy crap, if he doesn't straighten himself out:
Year Age Salary
2016: 31 22.1M
2017: 32 22.1M
2018: 33 22.1M
2019: 34 42.1M
2020: 35 42.1M
2012: 36 42.1M

Those 34 - 36 year seasons could be killers.

RE: RE: Scherzer off to a pretty crappy start also this season  
pjcas18 : 5/6/2016 4:43 pm : link
In comment 12948720 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12948704 PhiPsi125 said:


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That is...until he faces the Mets. Book it.



Agree, when the Mets need him to be bad he won't be.

But I saw his contract tweeted about today. Holy crap, if he doesn't straighten himself out:
Year Age Salary
2016: 31 22.1M
2017: 32 22.1M
2018: 33 22.1M
2019: 34 42.1M
2020: 35 42.1M
2012: 36 42.1M

Those 34 - 36 year seasons could be killers.


should be 2021 the last year
The Cubs  
spike : 5/6/2016 4:44 pm : link
Are the real deal
Damn  
spike : 5/6/2016 4:46 pm : link
We thought Wrights contract was bad
I think the Cubs are a good team  
Vanzetti : 5/6/2016 5:11 pm : link
But Arrieta is not going to smash Gibson's ERA record and Hammel is not going to best Doc Gooden's 1985 season. And Dexter Fowler is not going to have an OPS over 1000.

In other words, they have a lot of guys who are off to good starts who will regress to their recent career averages.

And their two big signings Zobrist and Heyward are off to rough starts. Of course, both will pick it up but I don't think either contract is going to be worth the money

Nats lost  
spike : 5/6/2016 5:32 pm : link
Tied with the Mets in the loss column (10)

LGM! Lets take the series from the Padres
RE: Cespedes was already caught in 2012  
SethFromAstoria : 5/6/2016 6:02 pm : link
In comment 12948319 Vanzetti said:
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If this is true, it would be his second violation.

Sandy has a long history of being associated with PEDs, beginning in Oakland. He also signs guys with a history, such as Bartolo and Bastardo.

So, let's hope this is not true.


when did this happen?
I somehow missed the Conforto's mom has 2 gold medals  
madgiantscow009 : 5/6/2016 6:38 pm : link
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/176023556/mets-michael-conforto-son-of-olympian

on right.

RE: I mean they are about to release a list  
madgiantscow009 : 5/6/2016 6:44 pm : link
In comment 12948648 ZGiants98 said:
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and nail a bunch of players. They have been very public about that. Its not impossible. Lets hope not.


I thought I heard there was no big named players involved?
RE: RE: Cespedes was already caught in 2012  
Vanzetti : 5/6/2016 6:48 pm : link
In comment 12948799 SethFromAstoria said:
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In comment 12948319 Vanzetti said:


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If this is true, it would be his second violation.

Sandy has a long history of being associated with PEDs, beginning in Oakland. He also signs guys with a history, such as Bartolo and Bastardo.

So, let's hope this is not true.



when did this happen?


It was a rumo, Seth. Thankfully, it seems there was nothing to it.
Rumor not rumo  
Vanzetti : 5/6/2016 6:49 pm : link
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spike : 5/6/2016 8:28 pm : link
Buddy Carlyle has has returned to Atlanta Braves as a coaching assistant. A pitcher for the Braves from 2007-09, Carlyle joined the team for Friday night's game against Arizona. He will be in uniform for pregame workouts, assist with scouting and will manage the team's instant replay protocol from an off-field location.
Carlyle - ( New Window )
Mets and Cubs are very close in terms of talent  
ZGiants98 : 5/6/2016 9:38 pm : link
And I say that in the most complimentary way imaginable in regards to the Cubs. Without our ice cold first week we likely have identical records right now. Id argue the Mets and Cubs are the two top teams in baseball period actually.

Yes Id still give the slight edge to us in rotations, bullpen, ect but that really doesn't mean much in a head to head matchup anyway. Flip a coin.
i'm surprised  
spike : 5/6/2016 10:01 pm : link
the Pirates and the Cardinals aren't playing all that great right now
RE: RE: Cespedes was already caught in 2012  
jpkmets : 5/6/2016 10:32 pm : link
In comment 12948799 SethFromAstoria said:
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In comment 12948319 Vanzetti said:


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If this is true, it would be his second violation.

Sandy has a long history of being associated with PEDs, beginning in Oakland. He also signs guys with a history, such as Bartolo and Bastardo.

So, let's hope this is not true.



when did this happen?



Cespedes doesn't have a positive test on his record, I don't believe.
Cespedes and Wright saw 15 pitches between them  
Vanzetti : 5/6/2016 10:56 pm : link
Both eventually struck out. But watch seeing that many pitches will come into play in their subsequent ABs.
The Pads jumped out in front early  
spike : 5/6/2016 11:03 pm : link
again
Off to another rousing start ...  
Stufftherun : 5/6/2016 11:28 pm : link
Wake up boys!
Need to drive in those runners when they have the chances  
steve in ky : 5/6/2016 11:51 pm : link
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are Pads'  
CMicks3110 : 5/6/2016 11:57 pm : link
picking up something in mets pitching? they seem on to many of the pitches? stealing signs?
This weak lineup  
Rflairr : 5/6/2016 11:59 pm : link
has been hitting the Mets pitching hard
I would walk  
Rflairr : 5/7/2016 12:00 am : link
Norris
Weak effort by Duda!  
Stufftherun : 5/7/2016 12:02 am : link
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Duda needed to catch that.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/7/2016 12:02 am : link
I hope it doesn't bite them.
The mets NEVER get those check swing calls  
PhiPsi125 : 5/7/2016 12:03 am : link
Yet they get called on them so much. That's two freebies to Norris so far.
Thor's reluctant to  
Stufftherun : 5/7/2016 12:05 am : link
throw the slider! Ok, there we go, big K albeit not the sharp break we've become accustomed to.
Phew...way to get out of it.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/7/2016 12:06 am : link
Now go score some damn runs. Enough with swinging for the fences. Line drives are okay too.
Jesus, it feels like we are playing the royals  
PhiPsi125 : 5/7/2016 12:12 am : link
Even all the breaks go their way.
They're taking advantage of Thor  
Stufftherun : 5/7/2016 12:30 am : link
inability to hold runners on, his deliberate delivery to the plate and doing something we're not very good at ...playing a little small ball and manufacturing runs.
Wow literally everything going against us  
ZGiants98 : 5/7/2016 12:51 am : link
He did not drop that on the transfer. Terrible.
Easy to say now but I felt  
Stufftherun : 5/7/2016 12:52 am : link
as the play was unfolding that it was a mistake to send him. And who really thought we'd get the benefit of the call on the replay?
I just assumed Cabrera touched  
Stufftherun : 5/7/2016 12:58 am : link
home at some point after he got up but now that they let the replay go in its entirety you can see that he didn't. That's simply poor judgement, you have to at least tap it with your toe before heading to the dugout.
What an absolute waste of time!  
Stufftherun : 5/7/2016 1:45 am : link
For those of you who were confident we'd win tonight and win the series, how's that workin' out? It wasn't just a disgrace at the plate but this team just doesn't do the little things well.
This is always going to be the concern with this team.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/7/2016 11:45 am : link
This is a stubborn team that will only play their game. I don't see them adjusting to other teams weaknesses but that comes from the top,Mao it's hard to blame the players.

We are playing a team the defends with an extreme shift. Why not adjust your approach and go the other way? Well, because Duda said it too hard. Well, fuck me. Just keep beating that ball to the three defenders on the right side. This teams stubbornness is infuriating.

The metrics say that stolen bases are just not worth the risk anymore. Did we not just get beaten these past two games in large part because of stolen bases? By one of the worst hitting teams in the league? Against our two best pitchers? The mets should be in first place right now.
They're overly reliant  
Stufftherun : 5/7/2016 12:41 pm : link
on the long ball, and since they're set up better defensively this season, they'll have to find a way to manufacture runs when balls aren't jumping out of the ballpark.
It's jet lag, no concern here  
Cruzin : 5/7/2016 12:54 pm : link

That said, SD is starting to wake up and Colon is due to get smacked around. The Mets with no small ball going on yet are not a good bet in SD. no need to panic, although losing to the Padres is frustrating it's understandable.

Conforto got his day off, he'll come out stroking tonight.
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