Ethan J. Skolnick & #8207;@EthanJSkolnick 3m3 minutes ago
Re: new reports about Spurs eyeing Durant in FA... I mentioned last month that a close NBA friend of Durant's expected Spurs to b preference
If I'm Durant, I'm going to the Wizards. Coming back home, get to play with Wall, Beal. It's would be a similar situation to the Thunder, but you get to run through the East instead of the Spurs, Warriors, etc.
SAS swears Durant isn't even considering the Wizards
SAS also swore that Lebron would pick the Knicks in 2010.
Actually it was the opposite. It was crappy guys like Hahn and Dee that swore that LEbron was coming to NY to play for D'Antoni because he said hi to him on 2008 Olympics team. And that Walsh was this great GM that can land any big FA despite the fact he never did that in Indiana.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
If I'm Durant, I'm going to the Wizards. Coming back home, get to play with Wall, Beal. It's would be a similar situation to the Thunder, but you get to run through the East instead of the Spurs, Warriors, etc.
SAS swears Durant isn't even considering the Wizards
SAS also swore that Lebron would pick the Knicks in 2010.
Actually it was the opposite. It was crappy guys like Hahn and Dee that swore that LEbron was coming to NY to play for D'Antoni because he said hi to him on 2008 Olympics team. And that Walsh was this great GM that can land any big FA despite the fact he never did that in Indiana.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
Seriously why doesn't San Antonio get grief for just trying to grab stars to pair with their ancient HOF players like other teams get grief?
Aside from LaMarcus Aldridge, what stars did San Antonio grab?
They drafted Duncan, Parker and Ginobili, and made a draft day trade with Indiana to get Kawhi Leonard for George Hill. This post doesn't make any sense.
Actually it was the opposite. It was crappy guys like Hahn and Dee that swore that LEbron was coming to NY to play for D'Antoni because he said hi to him on 2008 Olympics team. And that Walsh was this great GM that can land any big FA despite the fact he never did that in Indiana.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
sorry but you can't put Hahn and Dee in the same sentence or even universe. Hahn, after all, was the one who ultimately broke the story of his final decision.
and SAS may have said Miami but he then contradicted himself about 20 times after that.
everyone should be prohibited from using SAS as a source even if that person adds the caveat that SAS is a blowharded windbag that brings nothing to the table.
Actually it was the opposite. It was crappy guys like Hahn and Dee that swore that LEbron was coming to NY to play for D'Antoni because he said hi to him on 2008 Olympics team. And that Walsh was this great GM that can land any big FA despite the fact he never did that in Indiana.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
sorry but you can't put Hahn and Dee in the same sentence or even universe. Hahn, after all, was the one who ultimately broke the story of his final decision.
and SAS may have said Miami but he then contradicted himself about 20 times after that.
Hahn and Dee said NY. Hahn only began to second guess himself after the meeting between Lebron and the Knicks. Isola and Berman killed him for it. Isola said that's what happens when your only source is the head coach.
But Hahn and Dee were selling D'Antoni as some big factor in Lebron coming to NYC. Hahn exposed himself when after criticizing Dolan for the meeting went promptly to kissing his ass when Cablevision brought Newsday. Hahn is and has always been more of a hack than SAS. And I don't even like SAS.
that is to be expected as an employee of the team, but there's no way he's more of a hack than SAS with his theatrical bullshit and occasional race carding.
Seriously why doesn't San Antonio get grief for just trying to grab stars to pair with their ancient HOF players like other teams get grief?
I assume that Duncan is getting a sweetheart offer to buy a minority interest in the Spurs after he retires, and that he has been promised it as essentially a quid pro quo for taking low salaries. A few writers will say "come on, that was pre-arranged and it is cap circumvention" but it will go no where.
that is to be expected as an employee of the team, but there's no way he's more of a hack than SAS with his theatrical bullshit and occasional race carding.
??? What does being a company guy have to do with anything when he was working at Newsday. His only source was D'Antoni. He blamed the bad meeting on Dolan which Lebron camp quickly squashed and said that D'Antoni looked like he rather be somewhere else and Walsh was rolling around in a wheelchair. Hahn then started to criticize Lebron for letting his camp influence him.
Listen I don't like none of these NY beat guys but this notion that Hahn and Dee are above the fray is laughable. They're all hacks.
Hahn and Dee said NY. Hahn only began to second guess himself after the meeting between Lebron and the Knicks. Isola and Berman killed him for it. Isola said that's what happens when your only source is the head coach.
But Hahn and Dee were selling D'Antoni as some big factor in Lebron coming to NYC. Hahn exposed himself when after criticizing Dolan for the meeting went promptly to kissing his ass when Cablevision brought Newsday. Hahn is and has always been more of a hack than SAS. And I don't even like SAS.
wow. Like 2% of that might have some truth to it. what a bunch of bullshit.
1) If you had your choice to pick the Knicks head coach, who would it be of these three: David Blatt, Frank Vogel or Terry Stotts?
2) Assuming the Knicks acquire a late-first and/or a second rounder, who are some of your favorite prospects for us?
Why would Stotts leave the Blazers to come here?
I'd prefer Vogel to Blatt but either would be fine.
If we got a second I'd like Caris Levert (even though he went to Michigan). If he was healthy this year he's probably a late lotto guy.
Marc SteinVerified account @ESPNSteinLine
Report from @sam_amick: Terry Stotts' option year for 2016-17 has not yet been picked up despite near-COY season.
Wishful thinking. I'm sure they'll pick up his option.
1) If you had your choice to pick the Knicks head coach, who would it be of these three: David Blatt, Frank Vogel or Terry Stotts?
2) Assuming the Knicks acquire a late-first and/or a second rounder, who are some of your favorite prospects for us?
Why would Stotts leave the Blazers to come here?
I'd prefer Vogel to Blatt but either would be fine.
If we got a second I'd like Caris Levert (even though he went to Michigan). If he was healthy this year he's probably a late lotto guy.
Marc SteinVerified account @ESPNSteinLine
Report from @sam_amick: Terry Stotts' option year for 2016-17 has not yet been picked up despite near-COY season.
Wishful thinking. I'm sure they'll pick up his option.
Interesting, thanks. Can't see any way he isn't retained.
Why the fuck anybody cares about the NBA? Every year it's basically a four or 5 team playoff with one superstar or another trying to stack the deck by signing with a dream team. Such a chump fucking league.
You just said he ripped Dolan during free agency and defended dantoni, you are changing your argument because you are wrong
He did rip Dolan for the Isiah being involve mess and being hands on. He said that played a factor and the Lebron camp shot that down. I'm not changing anything.
You just said he ripped Dolan during free agency and defended dantoni, you are changing your argument because you are wrong
He did rip Dolan for the Isiah being involve mess and being hands on. He said that played a factor and the Lebron camp shot that down. I'm not changing anything.
Please share the article...
And you just said he ripped Dolan during isiah years but after cablevision bought Newsday he stopped ripping him but he ripped him during free agency, you are making zero sense
Why the fuck anybody cares about the NBA? Every year it's basically a four or 5 team playoff with one superstar or another trying to stack the deck by signing with a dream team. Such a chump fucking league.
Seems like a weird thing to post in a Knicks thread filled with presumably all NBA fans.
Why the fuck anybody cares about the NBA? Every year it's basically a four or 5 team playoff with one superstar or another trying to stack the deck by signing with a dream team. Such a chump fucking league.
You just said he ripped Dolan during free agency and defended dantoni, you are changing your argument because you are wrong
He did rip Dolan for the Isiah being involve mess and being hands on. He said that played a factor and the Lebron camp shot that down. I'm not changing anything.
You serious? This is part of your post from above:
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Hahn exposed himself when after criticizing Dolan for the meeting went promptly to kissing his ass when Cablevision brought Newsday.
Followed shortly by this, referring to 2008 as the year Newsday was bought:
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Correct he was extremely critical of Dolan during the Isiah years. He became less critical after Newsday was brought.
It's on the same page, for christ's sake.
Enzo, there's so much stupid in almost every post from CrotcherSnatch
My point about Hahn was that he was nowhere close to covering the Lebron story accurately.
My other point is that Hahn sold out.
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Is that what you want? A pack of reporters who just take whatever the team dishes out? Regurgiates the rhetoric? Doesn't demand that the city's lone NBA franchise raise their standards not only on the court, but off of it?
Aren't you the least bit alarmed that a guy who grew up a Knicks fan just like you, and dreamed of one day covering the team finally realized this dream only to find it didn't come close to living up to the expectation? And it didn't, especially after traveling the NBA for a year and seeing how it's done elsewhere.
I won't even get into how much I realize the Islanders were more of a classy organization that I realized based on the fact that they took a lot of negative pub and still had the understanding that some negative pub is unavoidable as long as it was fair. And no matter what, they had the decency to treat you like a human being even after some of the worst of times. (For the record, by the way, No, I never said I wanted to go back to the Islanders beat. I said I never really wanted to leave it in the first place, but now that I'm here, I want to be around to see this franchise and this beat get back to the elite level it once had).
If demanding a greater standard out of your team isn't what you want out of your beat writer, then enjoy the controlled, watered-down company line info you get on the team's website. You're clearly in the wrong place.
Why the fuck anybody cares about the NBA? Every year it's basically a four or 5 team playoff with one superstar or another trying to stack the deck by signing with a dream team. Such a chump fucking league.
yeah I have soured on the nba myself ,the Knicks being awful is not a help either ,I think ever since the NBA got off NBC it went to shit ,The Nba on nbc was awesome .
Why the fuck anybody cares about the NBA? Every year it's basically a four or 5 team playoff with one superstar or another trying to stack the deck by signing with a dream team. Such a chump fucking league.
Remind me again why your opinion is relevant? And give me more then one example of a superstar trying to "stack the deck"?
Chopper - coming onto a basketball thread to piss on the sport is never going to work out well.
I do agree its a frustrating sport in that there's so little movement year-to-year in great vs awful teams. The other sports have much faster peak/trough cycles, even baseball now that the smaller markets have figured out ways to keep their homegrown stars and extra 2-3 years than they were able to in the past.
I dont think Durant to SA will happen. Washington and Boston are his most likely destinations. Boston's going to get a lot better in the upcoming draft too -- thanks to the Nyets.
Why the fuck anybody cares about the NBA? Every year it's basically a four or 5 team playoff with one superstar or another trying to stack the deck by signing with a dream team. Such a chump fucking league.
I care because the Knicks fucking suck and have sucked for so long. I'm not even kidding. The Knicks are my white whale. The sports sector of my brain won't rest until the Knicks win an NBA title which undoubtably means I'll die restless.
Plus it's just a fun game to watch. The talent and grace of the game is easy to sit through. The one negative you mentioned is true but somewhat overstated while the one you didn't mention, the numerous foul calls, free throws and game delays while the 4th quarter winds down is another issue but it is what it is.
He's the dumbest athlete of the 21st century. Will any of these guys ever learn? I would understand if that was his only choice to make big money like Carl Crawford but why would any NBA player go there if they had a choice? Are they blind to history?
for whatever reason just fired Dave Joerger. Another great coach on the market. Not sure what they're thinking.
Nevermind, I guess this is why:
@WojVerticalNBA 6m6 minutes ago
Sources: For second time in three years, Joerger was seeking Memphis permission to talk with other teams on vacancies. Grizzlies let him go.
Surprise, surprise...the Knicks are getting fucked over.
David Aldridge ✔ @daldridgetnt
Vogel definitely on Grizz radar, but Memphis knows his NY ties & if Knicks are serious about him, Grizz cant/wont get into bidding war.
11:55 AM - 7 May 2016
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If I'm Durant, I'm going to the Wizards. Coming back home, get to play with Wall, Beal. It's would be a similar situation to the Thunder, but you get to run through the East instead of the Spurs, Warriors, etc.
SAS swears Durant isn't even considering the Wizards
SAS also swore that Lebron would pick the Knicks in 2010.
Actually it was the opposite. It was crappy guys like Hahn and Dee that swore that LEbron was coming to NY to play for D'Antoni because he said hi to him on 2008 Olympics team. And that Walsh was this great GM that can land any big FA despite the fact he never did that in Indiana.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
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In comment 12948329 Jon in NYC said:
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If I'm Durant, I'm going to the Wizards. Coming back home, get to play with Wall, Beal. It's would be a similar situation to the Thunder, but you get to run through the East instead of the Spurs, Warriors, etc.
SAS swears Durant isn't even considering the Wizards
SAS also swore that Lebron would pick the Knicks in 2010.
Actually it was the opposite. It was crappy guys like Hahn and Dee that swore that LEbron was coming to NY to play for D'Antoni because he said hi to him on 2008 Olympics team. And that Walsh was this great GM that can land any big FA despite the fact he never did that in Indiana.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
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Aside from LaMarcus Aldridge, what stars did San Antonio grab?
They drafted Duncan, Parker and Ginobili, and made a draft day trade with Indiana to get Kawhi Leonard for George Hill. This post doesn't make any sense.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
sorry but you can't put Hahn and Dee in the same sentence or even universe. Hahn, after all, was the one who ultimately broke the story of his final decision.
and SAS may have said Miami but he then contradicted himself about 20 times after that.
SAS should be eliminated like a stubborn shit.
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Actually it was the opposite. It was crappy guys like Hahn and Dee that swore that LEbron was coming to NY to play for D'Antoni because he said hi to him on 2008 Olympics team. And that Walsh was this great GM that can land any big FA despite the fact he never did that in Indiana.
SAS was the first to say Miami and was killed by everyone for it.
sorry but you can't put Hahn and Dee in the same sentence or even universe. Hahn, after all, was the one who ultimately broke the story of his final decision.
and SAS may have said Miami but he then contradicted himself about 20 times after that.
Hahn and Dee said NY. Hahn only began to second guess himself after the meeting between Lebron and the Knicks. Isola and Berman killed him for it. Isola said that's what happens when your only source is the head coach.
But Hahn and Dee were selling D'Antoni as some big factor in Lebron coming to NYC. Hahn exposed himself when after criticizing Dolan for the meeting went promptly to kissing his ass when Cablevision brought Newsday. Hahn is and has always been more of a hack than SAS. And I don't even like SAS.
I assume that Duncan is getting a sweetheart offer to buy a minority interest in the Spurs after he retires, and that he has been promised it as essentially a quid pro quo for taking low salaries. A few writers will say "come on, that was pre-arranged and it is cap circumvention" but it will go no where.
??? What does being a company guy have to do with anything when he was working at Newsday. His only source was D'Antoni. He blamed the bad meeting on Dolan which Lebron camp quickly squashed and said that D'Antoni looked like he rather be somewhere else and Walsh was rolling around in a wheelchair. Hahn then started to criticize Lebron for letting his camp influence him.
Listen I don't like none of these NY beat guys but this notion that Hahn and Dee are above the fray is laughable. They're all hacks.
But Hahn and Dee were selling D'Antoni as some big factor in Lebron coming to NYC. Hahn exposed himself when after criticizing Dolan for the meeting went promptly to kissing his ass when Cablevision brought Newsday. Hahn is and has always been more of a hack than SAS. And I don't even like SAS.
wow. Like 2% of that might have some truth to it. what a bunch of bullshit.
Also the wheel chair thing was written by woj when he was a mouthpiece for the nets, he quickly deleted that line when he got ahit for it...
Hahn was the best beat writer the Knicks had when he was on the beat, tommy Dee was never a beat writer he was always a blogger...
the fact that Bobby Marks now works for Woj is hysterical.
2) Assuming the Knicks acquire a late-first and/or a second rounder, who are some of your favorite prospects for us?
Also the wheel chair thing was written by woj when he was a mouthpiece for the nets, he quickly deleted that line when he got ahit for it...
Hahn was the best beat writer the Knicks had when he was on the beat, tommy Dee was never a beat writer he was always a blogger...
Look up when Dolan brought Newsday and get back to me.
2) Assuming the Knicks acquire a late-first and/or a second rounder, who are some of your favorite prospects for us?
Why would Stotts leave the Blazers to come here?
I'd prefer Vogel to Blatt but either would be fine.
If we got a second I'd like Caris Levert (even though he went to Michigan). If he was healthy this year he's probably a late lotto guy.
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Newsday is owned by Dolan, I don't remember Hahn ripping Dolan and if he did care to share?
Also the wheel chair thing was written by woj when he was a mouthpiece for the nets, he quickly deleted that line when he got ahit for it...
Hahn was the best beat writer the Knicks had when he was on the beat, tommy Dee was never a beat writer he was always a blogger...
Look up when Dolan brought Newsday and get back to me.
2008 when did free agency happen? Get back to me
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1) If you had your choice to pick the Knicks head coach, who would it be of these three: David Blatt, Frank Vogel or Terry Stotts?
2) Assuming the Knicks acquire a late-first and/or a second rounder, who are some of your favorite prospects for us?
Why would Stotts leave the Blazers to come here?
I'd prefer Vogel to Blatt but either would be fine.
If we got a second I'd like Caris Levert (even though he went to Michigan). If he was healthy this year he's probably a late lotto guy.
Marc SteinVerified account @ESPNSteinLine
Report from @sam_amick: Terry Stotts' option year for 2016-17 has not yet been picked up despite near-COY season.
Wishful thinking. I'm sure they'll pick up his option.
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Newsday is owned by Dolan, I don't remember Hahn ripping Dolan and if he did care to share?
Also the wheel chair thing was written by woj when he was a mouthpiece for the nets, he quickly deleted that line when he got ahit for it...
Hahn was the best beat writer the Knicks had when he was on the beat, tommy Dee was never a beat writer he was always a blogger...
Look up when Dolan brought Newsday and get back to me.
2008 when did free agency happen? Get back to me
Correct he was extremely critical of Dolan during the Isiah years. He became less critical after Newsday was brought.
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1) If you had your choice to pick the Knicks head coach, who would it be of these three: David Blatt, Frank Vogel or Terry Stotts?
2) Assuming the Knicks acquire a late-first and/or a second rounder, who are some of your favorite prospects for us?
Why would Stotts leave the Blazers to come here?
I'd prefer Vogel to Blatt but either would be fine.
If we got a second I'd like Caris Levert (even though he went to Michigan). If he was healthy this year he's probably a late lotto guy.
Marc SteinVerified account @ESPNSteinLine
Report from @sam_amick: Terry Stotts' option year for 2016-17 has not yet been picked up despite near-COY season.
Wishful thinking. I'm sure they'll pick up his option.
Interesting, thanks. Can't see any way he isn't retained.
He did rip Dolan for the Isiah being involve mess and being hands on. He said that played a factor and the Lebron camp shot that down. I'm not changing anything.
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You just said he ripped Dolan during free agency and defended dantoni, you are changing your argument because you are wrong
He did rip Dolan for the Isiah being involve mess and being hands on. He said that played a factor and the Lebron camp shot that down. I'm not changing anything.
Please share the article...
And you just said he ripped Dolan during isiah years but after cablevision bought Newsday he stopped ripping him but he ripped him during free agency, you are making zero sense
Seems like a weird thing to post in a Knicks thread filled with presumably all NBA fans.
so much stupid in this post.
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You just said he ripped Dolan during free agency and defended dantoni, you are changing your argument because you are wrong
He did rip Dolan for the Isiah being involve mess and being hands on. He said that played a factor and the Lebron camp shot that down. I'm not changing anything.
You serious? This is part of your post from above:
Followed shortly by this, referring to 2008 as the year Newsday was bought:
It's on the same page, for christ's sake.
My other point is that Hahn sold out.
Aren't you the least bit alarmed that a guy who grew up a Knicks fan just like you, and dreamed of one day covering the team finally realized this dream only to find it didn't come close to living up to the expectation? And it didn't, especially after traveling the NBA for a year and seeing how it's done elsewhere.
I won't even get into how much I realize the Islanders were more of a classy organization that I realized based on the fact that they took a lot of negative pub and still had the understanding that some negative pub is unavoidable as long as it was fair. And no matter what, they had the decency to treat you like a human being even after some of the worst of times. (For the record, by the way, No, I never said I wanted to go back to the Islanders beat. I said I never really wanted to leave it in the first place, but now that I'm here, I want to be around to see this franchise and this beat get back to the elite level it once had).
If demanding a greater standard out of your team isn't what you want out of your beat writer, then enjoy the controlled, watered-down company line info you get on the team's website. You're clearly in the wrong place.
- Alan Hahn 2007 on covering the Knicks.
#Knicks contact Frank Vogel reps to test his interest in job
#Knicks contact Frank Vogel reps to test his interest in job
Progress.
Remind me again why your opinion is relevant? And give me more then one example of a superstar trying to "stack the deck"?
I do agree its a frustrating sport in that there's so little movement year-to-year in great vs awful teams. The other sports have much faster peak/trough cycles, even baseball now that the smaller markets have figured out ways to keep their homegrown stars and extra 2-3 years than they were able to in the past.
I dont think Durant to SA will happen. Washington and Boston are his most likely destinations. Boston's going to get a lot better in the upcoming draft too -- thanks to the Nyets.
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Marc Berman @NYPost_Berman
#Knicks contact Frank Vogel reps to test his interest in job
Progress.
Confirmed by Ian Begley. Good first step.
I care because the Knicks fucking suck and have sucked for so long. I'm not even kidding. The Knicks are my white whale. The sports sector of my brain won't rest until the Knicks win an NBA title which undoubtably means I'll die restless.
Plus it's just a fun game to watch. The talent and grace of the game is easy to sit through. The one negative you mentioned is true but somewhat overstated while the one you didn't mention, the numerous foul calls, free throws and game delays while the 4th quarter winds down is another issue but it is what it is.
Really going out on a limb there, coach...
I hope KD doesn't go to SA. I still think he sticks with OKC.
Nevermind, I guess this is why:
@WojVerticalNBA 6m6 minutes ago
Sources: For second time in three years, Joerger was seeking Memphis permission to talk with other teams on vacancies. Grizzlies let him go.
I hope KD doesn't go to SA. I still think he sticks with OKC.
I think he stays with OKC on one of those 2 years with the player option on the second year deals.
David Aldridge ✔ @daldridgetnt
Vogel definitely on Grizz radar, but Memphis knows his NY ties & if Knicks are serious about him, Grizz cant/wont get into bidding war.
11:55 AM - 7 May 2016
1. 147-99 (Joerger)
2. 83-40 (Blatt)
3. 250-181 (Vogel)
4. 65-164 (Rambis)
I'm sorry but if Phil picks #4....hoooo boy
1. 147-99 (Joerger)
2. 83-40 (Blatt)
3. 250-181 (Vogel)
4. 65-164 (Rambis)
I'm sorry but if Phil picks #4....hoooo boy
Yup. Would be inexcusable.