I am already tired of the EE hype. I have no idea how good this guy is but there are people who think he could put Dallas over the top this season. I still think their defense is questionable. If Dez and Romo come back healthy and with the addition of EE will they be able to replicate their 2014 success.
Also playing them early I think puts us at a disadvantage since we have so many new players and a new HC. We are typically a slow starting team and it may take us some games to jell.
They may not win 12 games this year but, 10 - 11 games maybe all a team needs to take the NFC East division.
Romo can't say healthy.
Bryant is coming off surgery.
Witten is old.
Their defense is highly suspect.
What makes them the team to beat?
It is anyone's race....in NFC East. I like my chances
Our problem has not been that the Cowboys are particularly good, but that we tend to beat ourselves when we play them. We've made some big improvements in the offseason and will field a healthy (knock on wood) team of actual starting caliber players this time around. Now if we can just manage the clock!
This is a team that really could go either way. But I just have to ask myself, are people ever going to hold this team accountable for earning the hype? Do they ever get tired of being wrong? Dallas has one winning year in the last six seasons. ONE.
I'm with you in not giving the GMen the benefit of the doubt, but what exactly has Dallas done to deserve it? A 4 win team that has finished above .500 once in the past six seasons is going to have to prove it before I start anointing them anything.
its wide open and i am EXCITED
Skins come back down to Earth a bit.
Eagles and Giants are wild cards with new HC's.
Too many things have to go right for the Giants to win Division over Dallas with healthy Romo and Dez.
I'd qualify it this far:
With a healthy Tony Romo: Perhaps.
Without a healthy Tony Romo: Definitely not.
Skins come back down to Earth a bit.
Eagles and Giants are wild cards with new HvC's.
Too many things have to go right for the Giants to win Division over Dallas with healthy Romo and Dez.
Based on what? Their defense is awful and what exactly makes you think Romo can stay healthy? For all the love their OL gets, they aren't very good in pass protection. I know people that love the Dallas hype don't like to admit it, but that vaunted OL is a main reason Romo can't stay healthy. But what else is new. The media and fans that follow their every word have been anointing Dallas as the favorites for the past 20 years. How's that worked out? I've never seen a team get so many passes, not even by the media, but opposing fans, as the Cowboys. I guess it's due to the media, but holy shit balls do opposing fans love them some Cowboys, even though they have won jack shit in decades.
They were 4-12 without Romo for most of the season but if he gets hurt again, it’s the same old same old. Head-to-Head, the Cowboys don’t scare me vs the Giants, but in a 16 game season, I still gotta give the edge to the Cowboys but if the problem was Coughlin and coaching (like many on BBI said) the Giants can be a playoff team. Then again, it is May. I’ll go on record as saying from a Cowboy perspective, I like their pick of Elliot at #4, but bring it…we got Damon Harrison and Jonathan Hankins!!!
It is anyone's race....in NFC East. I like my chances
I agree. I thought Ramsey was the best pick. Though EE was a solid pick. I don't see why any Giant fan should get in a tizzy over EE hype. Who cares? All we have to do is get into the playoffs.
How can anyone argue that the Cowboys aren't the team to beat when they have the best Vegas odds to win the division?
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I am sure EE is a very good RB....but McFadden and Morris are good....
It is anyone's race....in NFC East. I like my chances
I agree. I thought Ramsey was the best pick. Though EE was a solid pick. I don't see why any Giant fan should get in a tizzy over EE hype. Who cares? All we have to do is get into the playoffs.
How can anyone argue that the Cowboys aren't the team to beat when they have the best Vegas odds to win the division?
Look here, it's a newbie troll on another Cowboy thread, with minimal posts on Giant threads.
we both have our limits and weaknesses...
Us - LBs .... young 2ndary, 1/2 an OL
Dallas - Injury prone QB, no DEs for at least a 1/4 of the season. Offensive weapons a yr older and coming off injury.
The key to Dallas last year was Romo's health. It will be the key this year. Unfortunately, the guy is injured more and more each year. Last year, the Cowboys were 2-6 and people were worried they would win the division because they might have a healthy Tony Romo, and every comment assumes he will be healthy.
Now imagine if people said the Giants would be great on D if only Jon Beason could've stayed healthy? It is similar logic. Expecting Romo to stay healthy is fool's gold.
The key to Dallas last year was Romo's health. It will be the key this year. Unfortunately, the guy is injured more and more each year. Last year, the Cowboys were 2-6 and people were worried they would win the division because they might have a healthy Tony Romo, and every comment assumes he will be healthy.
Now imagine if people said the Giants would be great on D if only Jon Beason could've stayed healthy? It is similar logic. Expecting Romo to stay healthy is fool's gold.
You've got to be kidding? Beason?
If you are so confident Dallas will fold you have a great chance to make a ton of money in Vegas.
The just dissed the Giants, and couldn't help but drool all over themselves, talking about the Cowboys....
Last season, even with that dreadful defense, the Giants beat themselves, the Cowboys didn't, and they had Romo....
This conference is up for grabs...I don't think the Redskins repeat....Eagles are in a room without a door.....yes with Romo, Dez, Whitten and Double E, they will be strong on offense.....but I don't think Romo can be counted on for 16 games......and their defense has not improved.....
If things fall into place for this team, and it can avoid major injuries, this team can win the division....
It won't be easy.....new HC....new OC.....who will be the #2 WR? Can Perkins contribute right away? How long will it take for the defense to gel? Who will be the FS?
Soon, these questions will be answered....
Vegas odds are set by where Vegas thinks the money will be wagered, NOT based on which team they think is the best.
The just dissed the Giants, and couldn't help but drool all over themselves, talking about the Cowboys....
Last season, even with that dreadful defense, the Giants beat themselves, the Cowboys didn't, and they had Romo....
This conference is up for grabs...I don't think the Redskins repeat....Eagles are in a room without a door.....yes with Romo, Dez, Whitten and Double E, they will be strong on offense.....but I don't think Romo can be counted on for 16 games......and their defense has not improved.....
If things fall into place for this team, and it can avoid major injuries, this team can win the division....
It won't be easy.....new HC....new OC.....who will be the #2 WR? Can Perkins contribute right away? How long will it take for the defense to gel? Who will be the FS?
Soon, these questions will be answered....
Everything you is definitely true - but when it is all said and done- who is the favorite to win the division? Giants can win it. But who is favored to?
If say NYG are the realistic team to beat.
6 wins least year but 5 very close losses. Significant upgrades on defense, 2nd WR, and return to health of many important players.
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How can anyone argue that the Cowboys aren't the team to beat when they have the best Vegas odds to win the division?
Vegas odds are set by where Vegas thinks the money will be wagered, NOT based on which team they think is the best.
Then if you think they're wrong you can bet against where most of the money is going, okay?
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How can anyone argue that the Cowboys aren't the team to beat when they have the best Vegas odds to win the division?
Vegas odds are set by where Vegas thinks the money will be wagered, NOT based on which team they think is the best.
Then if you think they're wrong you can bet against where most of the money is going, okay?
You're missing the point. I didn't claim the Giants were the best team, not did I make any claim about how good or bad the Cowboys would be. I just stated a FACT that Vegas sets the odds based on where they think the money will be wagered and NOT based on which team they think is the best.
Same old story, injuries and the hot QB will determine fate of the division race.
I know we have to practice and get preseason game reps in, but I like our chances if we didn't...
Eagles have been pimped a lot, too. Not anymore because Chip screwed them and the Wentz trade will set them back for a few years.
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If Romo and Dez are healthy, they win the East.
Skins come back down to Earth a bit.
Eagles and Giants are wild cards with new HvC's.
Too many things have to go right for the Giants to win Division over Dallas with healthy Romo and Dez.
Based on what? Their defense is awful and what exactly makes you think Romo can stay healthy? For all the love their OL gets, they aren't very good in pass protection. I know people that love the Dallas hype don't like to admit it, but that vaunted OL is a main reason Romo can't stay healthy. But what else is new. The media and fans that follow their every word have been anointing Dallas as the favorites for the past 20 years. How's that worked out? I've never seen a team get so many passes, not even by the media, but opposing fans, as the Cowboys. I guess it's due to the media, but holy shit balls do opposing fans love them some Cowboys, even though they have won jack shit in decades.
Normally I agree . But healthy Dez and Romo with Elliot is 10+ wins. That OL will be better when they run the ball better, without Dez and Romo u stack the box and it's over.
They will be tough .
Eagles I can't see doing much and I think the redskins come back to earth a bit . Giants too many what if's to guess a finish.
EE might be great but Dallas still has a ton of question marks and some of those questions are of the critical variety. Giants have a few but a lot less than last year.
Philly will be terrible. Skins are on the fence with Dallas and NYG.
Any team outside of Philly could make an argument that they're the team to beat so it's kind of a pointless exercise. Of the four, I really like what the Giants have done and they can really make some noise if they stay healthy and the rookies produce.
It's any one of those teams division.
Skins. I think Cousins has hit his ceiling already. He's the second coming of Rex Grossman or McCown.
I think the Giants are.