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Does Weston Richburg's comments concern you?

OdellBeckhamJr : 5/9/2016 10:45 am
ICYMI:

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The percentage of guys who are just OK to be there is pretty high. The majority of my offensive line is not doing anything right now... I know a lot of guys are just happy to be there. That's the difference between them and the guys who are here.
I need an  
ATL_Giants : 5/9/2016 10:46 am : link
interpreter for this
Not one iota  
JonC : 5/9/2016 10:47 am : link
He's right, especially when a football team has stunk in recent seasons. Everyone should want to do more. Lacking want-to is often a big reason why player X washes out of the NFL leaving people wondering why.
No, it's a non-story to be honest  
NYGmen58 : 5/9/2016 10:51 am : link
What "concerns" me are the guys slated to play to the right of Richburg
no  
UConn4523 : 5/9/2016 10:51 am : link
everything can be read to concern if you like going about it that way. Richburg is calling out his guys to step up, what's wrong with that?
no concern  
TJ : 5/9/2016 10:51 am : link
Just a guy who wants to lead and challenge his teammates. Unfortunate that he said that in front of the press instead of just with the team but he's a kid. Maybe he thought it was the only way he would get their attention. If that's his worst screwup I'll be happy.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/9/2016 10:51 am : link
Yes.
It's a concern if he's the only aware individual  
JonC : 5/9/2016 10:52 am : link
that more is required.
The Giants OL has been in the cross hairs  
Matt in SGS : 5/9/2016 10:53 am : link
for a couple of years now. Richburg calling them out raise their level of play is not a bad thing when they haven't done anything in a while. And it helps that Richburg happens to be one of the best centers in the NFL. Remember this post from Shaun O'Hara last year

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Shaun O'Hara ✔ ‎@ShaunOHara60
What the hell is going on! 3 @Giants OL sitting out today (4 if u count Beatty) after a day off on Tues. So much for that Toughness!
3:37 PM - 6 Aug 2015


The Giants clearly tried to send a message to the team about their expectations when they cut Schwartz and Beatty. Per Richburg, some of these guys still didn't get it.
Gawd no  
Big Blue '56 : 5/9/2016 10:53 am : link
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arcarsenal : 5/9/2016 10:53 am : link
Sounds like a guy with leadership qualities who is challenging the guys around him to be better.

Does anyone want to hear that players are just "happy to be there" ? No, of course not. But maybe this is his way of trying to light a fire under some of their asses. I like that he said it. I don't like that it's probably true.. but I like that he said it.
Yes  
Jay on the Island : 5/9/2016 10:54 am : link
not because he called out his teammates but he felt the need to do so. What is very concerning is that Jerry is currently slated to start at RG and he has a long history of showing up out of shape and not working hard. I honestly think Jerry was one of the players Richburg was referring to. If the Giants really want Hart at RT we may have a big problem at RG if they do not bring in an Anthony Davis, Monroe, etc.
You can't wonder who the team leaders are  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/9/2016 10:54 am : link
And then turn into a quivering puddle when leaders attempt to emerge.
Isn't he saying the other lineman  
AP in Halfmoon : 5/9/2016 10:55 am : link
Aren't working out? that seems like a big concern to me
he is talking about all the off season work a player  
tempit : 5/9/2016 10:55 am : link
needs to put in to be the best player he can be ( not just physical condition ) but working on technique and position drills.

The Video of Richburg working with Bently.

I don't see any issue with what he said. He may get some flak for saying it, but it is up to him.
If heart and desire could be measured  
dune69 : 5/9/2016 10:55 am : link
there would be many more openings in the NFL and all of sports. Unfortunately, many times the quality of these traits are not seen until a contract is in hand.
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shabu : 5/9/2016 10:56 am : link
In comment 12950807 arcarsenal said:
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Sounds like a guy with leadership qualities who is challenging the guys around him to be better.

Does anyone want to hear that players are just "happy to be there" ? No, of course not. But maybe this is his way of trying to light a fire under some of their asses. I like that he said it. I don't like that it's probably true.. but I like that he said it.


Leaders are a must have, agree !
more concerned about the grammer, or lack of, in the OP  
idiotsavant : 5/9/2016 10:56 am : link
Does a comment, DO comment>>>>S<<<<.

Sheesh. For Fucks fucking sake here.
The last sentence . . .  
Ralph.C : 5/9/2016 10:57 am : link
. . . is confusing. I thought he was talking about his starting offensive linemen. Who is "them" and who are "the guys who are here."?
Looks like Jerry spent at least some of the early offseason  
bigbluescot : 5/9/2016 10:59 am : link
at the same training center (LeCharles Bentley's) as Richburg.

the video shows James doing drills between the 29th of Feb and the 18th of March.
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RE: The last sentence . . .  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/9/2016 10:59 am : link
In comment 12950821 Ralph.C said:
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. . . is confusing. I thought he was talking about his starting offensive linemen. Who is "them" and who are "the guys who are here."?


He's talking about being at LeCharles Bentley's offensive line camp. It's a training center for linemen.
Wait, I just figured it out.  
Ralph.C : 5/9/2016 10:59 am : link
He's comparing the guys who are at the training facility with the guys who aren't. That is a total call-out.
RE: RE: The last sentence . . .  
Ralph.C : 5/9/2016 11:00 am : link
In comment 12950827 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 12950821 Ralph.C said:


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. . . is confusing. I thought he was talking about his starting offensive linemen. Who is "them" and who are "the guys who are here."?



He's talking about being at LeCharles Bentley's offensive line camp. It's a training center for linemen.


Yep. I was a little slow on the uptake.
RE: Looks like Jerry spent at least some of the early offseason  
bigbluescot : 5/9/2016 11:01 am : link
In comment 12950825 bigbluescot said:
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at the same training center (LeCharles Bentley's) as Richburg.

the video shows James doing drills between the 29th of Feb and the 18th of March. Link - ( New Window )


Sorry Jerry not James.
kind of depends on who he is calling out  
giants#1 : 5/9/2016 11:05 am : link
Pugh/Flowers? that'd be a little more concerning.

Richburg is a New York Giant  
bruce_from_nj : 5/9/2016 11:08 am : link
He's the kind of guy you win with. I'm glad he's making these comments. The best teams polices themselves. Hopefully this is the start of the Giants locker room getting back to a point where the players hold each other accountable.
Most of the time  
Matt in SGS : 5/9/2016 11:10 am : link
I like to keep this stuff in house. However, in the case of forcing guys to take their jobs more seriously, or simply to produce, sometimes the ends justify the means. Parcells used to do this, even with Lawrence Taylor. LT used to have a nightmare matchup with Irv Pankey of the Rams and couldn't get pressure on Jim Everett. Pat Swilling, a Pro Bowl LB in New Orleans, got 3 sacks against Pankey. Before the 1989 Playoff game, Parcells was telling LT to go fly down to New Orleans and trade jerseys with Swilling, since they were both #56 and he knew how to produce. LT got 2 sacks and forced a fumble near the goal line.
Leaders lead....  
The Natural : 5/9/2016 11:18 am : link
and it isn't always by example or with a pat on the back.
Bruce  
Reale01 : 5/9/2016 11:19 am : link
Love you music
He buried his former OL coach  
arniefez : 5/9/2016 11:47 am : link
and to an extent his former HC. Hopefully his experience with his new OL coach and new HC will be different.
The alarming comment to me was the lack of teaching remark.  
j_rud : 5/9/2016 12:07 pm : link
Lets be honest, i dont expect every guy on the roster to attack the offseason with a gung-ho attitude. It would be nice but its not realistic. Some guys are always gonna need a kick in the ass.

But the comment about there not really being any teaching going on...that was an eye opener.
people are missing the point  
chris r : 5/9/2016 12:10 pm : link
of course its concerning that coming off 3 straight losing seasons guys aren't working hard enough.

If it wasn't concerning Richburg wouldn't have called them out.
The continued assault...  
HoustonGiant : 5/9/2016 12:30 pm : link
on the English language concerns me.
That entire  
ryanmkeane : 5/9/2016 12:50 pm : link
article painted those OL as bitter. I found it more humorous - like they were just busting chops. Which is what teammates do to each other all the time I imagine. You're not in the gym today? Shocking....

That kinda thing.
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Bogey : 5/9/2016 1:07 pm : link
Doesn't bother me that he made the comments, it bothers me that he has to.
RE: He buried his former OL coach  
AP in Halfmoon : 5/9/2016 1:08 pm : link
In comment 12950902 arniefez said:
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and to an extent his former HC. Hopefully his experience with his new OL coach and new HC will be different.



Hahaha arnie strikes again!
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Chris in Philly : 5/9/2016 1:09 pm : link
In comment 12951071 Bogey said:
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Doesn't bother me that he made the comments, it bothers me that he has to.


This.
sounds to me that weston wasnt tough enough  
YorkAveGiant : 5/9/2016 1:13 pm : link
to go with Pugh to Glazers MMA gym this off season, so he tried to cover for it with these comments.
I think it's OK  
phil in arizona : 5/9/2016 1:36 pm : link
to take an offseason off?
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Bill L : 5/9/2016 1:58 pm : link
In comment 12951078 Chris in Philly said:
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Doesn't bother me that he made the comments, it bothers me that he has to.



This.
I agree here. With a line that is considered to be pretty poor in some spots, you would think that they would be extra motivated to worth to succeed. OTOH, some of the interview suggested a context that was specifically about attending the Bentley camp. Not attending that, wouldn't necessarily mean that they weren't not working out. The other end of it is that Richburg's here go against others that talk about line unity and bonding being the paramount factor in line success.
To me he comes off a bit like that guy  
jhibb : 5/9/2016 2:16 pm : link
at the office who is only really aware of what his own job is. He thinks he works so hard and since he doesn't see other employees doing the same tasks, he assumes they're not doing anything.

I have a hard time believing the others are "not doing anything." Something different? Sure.
This Richburg quote concerns me a little more:  
JD in NC : 5/9/2016 2:36 pm : link
On the amount of teaching of offensive line technique that gets done at the NFL level: “There isn’t much teaching going on at all. It’s kind of sink or swim. That’s why I am here.

The fuck does he mean there isn't much teaching going on?
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RE: This Richburg quote concerns me a little more:  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/9/2016 3:07 pm : link
In comment 12951225 JD in NC said:
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On the amount of teaching of offensive line technique that gets done at the NFL level: “There isn’t much teaching going on at all. It’s kind of sink or swim. That’s why I am here.

The fuck does he mean there isn't much teaching going on? Link - ( New Window )


I don't think it's a coincidence that "coach em' up" and "teach" have been pretty generously used in McAdoo's offseason statements since being hired. He seems to stress this a lot.
I'm pretty sure the teaching stuff is a direct effect of the limited  
GMenLTS : 5/9/2016 3:35 pm : link
practice time negotiated in the CBA
It is the CBA  
JonC : 5/9/2016 6:07 pm : link
very little practice time at all, let alone time lost hitting in full pads.
Isn't he talking about all OL  
bradshaw44 : 5/9/2016 6:48 pm : link
In the league?
I get that he cares and wants to win, but ...  
Manny in CA : 5/9/2016 11:29 pm : link
Sometimes "silence is golden".

Sometimes guys are already doing the best they can and you're not going to inspire or squeeze more out of them. It's the GM's and coach's job to see who's not cutting it and replace them.

Trashing people in front of the whole world is not leadership.

Just do your job, Wes, and lead by example - translation "shut your mouth".
RE: No, it's a non-story to be honest  
Carson53 : 5/10/2016 11:13 am : link
In comment 12950796 NYGmen58 said:
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What "concerns" me are the guys slated to play to the right of Richburg
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Bingo!
If Jerry and Pugh attended off season training programs  
Canton : 5/10/2016 11:27 am : link
That only leaves Flowers, Newhouse, and the backups being called out?
Flowers doesn't seem like a slacker.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/10/2016 11:38 am : link
And if he's anything like his Miami brethren, he's a workout fiend.

Jerry and Newhouse, I could believe.
Lets get honest  
Carson53 : 5/10/2016 12:04 pm : link
THIS team needs some leadership on both sides of the ball.
If Richburg is ready to step up, more power to him!

Who is going to be a leader on the defensive side, need one.
Spending money on defense doesn't necessarily make a player
a leader, we'll see.
Not a concern  
The Tempest : 5/10/2016 4:36 pm : link
Weston Richburg works harder than his teammates, good for him.
Maybe  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/10/2016 4:42 pm : link
Depends if we make the playoffs. If we don't, then I am retroactively concerned.
RE: The alarming comment to me was the lack of teaching remark.  
BlueLou : 5/10/2016 5:13 pm : link
In comment 12950951 j_rud said:
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Lets be honest, i dont expect every guy on the roster to attack the offseason with a gung-ho attitude. It would be nice but its not realistic. Some guys are always gonna need a kick in the ass.

But the comment about there not really being any teaching going on...that was an eye opener.


Rud, really at the pro level there are guys who "need a kick in the ass" to motivate them? In a career where getting in 10 years of starting takes almost a miracle?

For me that's hard to swallow, and it should be concern #1 of your college and pro talent evaluators to weed the want tos from the want nots.
RE: RE: The alarming comment to me was the lack of teaching remark.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/10/2016 5:22 pm : link
In comment 12952770 BlueLou said:
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In comment 12950951 j_rud said:


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Lets be honest, i dont expect every guy on the roster to attack the offseason with a gung-ho attitude. It would be nice but its not realistic. Some guys are always gonna need a kick in the ass.

But the comment about there not really being any teaching going on...that was an eye opener.



Rud, really at the pro level there are guys who "need a kick in the ass" to motivate them? In a career where getting in 10 years of starting takes almost a miracle?

For me that's hard to swallow, and it should be concern #1 of your college and pro talent evaluators to weed the want tos from the want nots.


Travis Beckum kind of exemplifies this. Some guys coast on natural ability. It happens across all sports. Hell, look at jamarcus russell. You can get pretty far on god-given ability. When you get to this level, it requires a deep commitment to extra work some guys cannot make.

A couple of years ago, the Eagles drafted Danny Watkins, an offensive lineman. First round pick in 2011. All the talent in the world. Had no interest in doing the work involved to play. Didn't watch film. Colossal bust.

Interesting story. http://mmqb.si.com/2014/12/17/danny-watkins-philadelphia-eagles
RE: RE: The alarming comment to me was the lack of teaching remark.  
Klaatu : 5/10/2016 5:55 pm : link
In comment 12952770 BlueLou said:
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In comment 12950951 j_rud said:


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Lets be honest, i dont expect every guy on the roster to attack the offseason with a gung-ho attitude. It would be nice but its not realistic. Some guys are always gonna need a kick in the ass.

But the comment about there not really being any teaching going on...that was an eye opener.



Rud, really at the pro level there are guys who "need a kick in the ass" to motivate them? In a career where getting in 10 years of starting takes almost a miracle?

For me that's hard to swallow, and it should be concern #1 of your college and pro talent evaluators to weed the want tos from the want nots.


Didn't Justin Tuck need a kick in the ass a few years back?
RE: RE: The alarming comment to me was the lack of teaching remark.  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/10/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 12952770 BlueLou said:
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In comment 12950951 j_rud said:


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Lets be honest, i dont expect every guy on the roster to attack the offseason with a gung-ho attitude. It would be nice but its not realistic. Some guys are always gonna need a kick in the ass.

But the comment about there not really being any teaching going on...that was an eye opener.



Rud, really at the pro level there are guys who "need a kick in the ass" to motivate them? In a career where getting in 10 years of starting takes almost a miracle?

For me that's hard to swallow, and it should be concern #1 of your college and pro talent evaluators to weed the want tos from the want nots.


I never understand why people are so perplexed that professional athletes also need motivation. To play at that level and do so with success often requires athletes to dig in and find a gear they've never needed to find before throughout the entirety of their athletic careers. Some guys struggle to find it. We've seen in on a number of occasions at MetLife Stadium over the last few years. Why not believe what's happening right in front of you?
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