According to this Newsweek piece from the end of March, a few teams reached out to him but he is rehabbing and did not want to visit with any team until his rehab is complete.
Don't see him getting a big contract at this point with anyone and certainly zero guaranteed. Will delete if the link has been offered before.
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Beatty was solid when healthy but you just can't count on him and this team wants to give reps to players who are tougher. I can't say I blame them.
^This. As the season, or even camp, progress, injuries will force teams to inquire about his services. But the Giants will not be one of those teams unless they are truly desperate.
Theres a difference between getting injured and being SAWFT. Beatty is the latter
No dumb ass
He quit on his team last year
Agreed
I think it's about burned bridges, George. I think, Reese, Coughlin and McAdoo all felt betrayed by this guy when he elected for surgery late. Giants were counting in a contribution from Beatty and he elected to get the surgery rather than give it a go last year.
You obviously haven't been paying much attention.
And what does Cooper Taylor have to do with anything? Did you not notice the resources we've spent on the safety position in the last 2-3 years? The Giants pretty clearly aren't expecting much of anything from Taylor and are trying to fill both spots with other players. Collins being one of them.
The guys who get personally offended by players who get hurt are sad human beings.
The guys who get personally offended by players who get hurt are sad human beings.
You can't be serious
He was able to play....he choose not to because he didn't want to play RT and opted to have surgery from which he is still rehabbing from
Get a clue before you call someone out
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If we were trying to "get away from players like this" Cooper Taylor wouldn't be on the roster. Beatty is a better LT than Flowers at this point in time. I'd be glad to have him back so we could move Flowers to RT where he belongs. Watch some tape from last year; He is a promising young player, but his lack of proper technique could get Eli killed.
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Ah.... So in your mind it's impossible for someone to improve on their technique from their rookie year? Great job coach
Call it quitting, call it refusing to play, even call it a prudent medical decision. Whatever you call it doesn't change the fact that he consciously chose to sit out once healthy. That sort of fits the definition of quitting.
And the giants have rightfully moved on. Better than some posters, I see.
After 2016, the Giants really should be able to draft a starting RT in something other than rd. 1. They would also have a better idea if Flowers was a NFL LT.
Organizational timetable to be competitive?
So an oft injured former Giant who may have burned some bridges, playing out of position? That sounds like a good idea to someone?
Once again people act like everything is black and white. First, Cooper Taylor just may get cut this year in camp, so you may be flat out wrong there. Second, Cooper Taylor doesn't protect Eli's blindside nor did he make a fortune so far in this league. Lastly, he didn't quit on his team.
As a fellow UConn alum i've defended Beatty as much as anyone for several years but enough was enough. He just isn't tough and certainly isn't a leader. I wish him luck but he doesn't have a place on this team. Both parties will benefit from moving on.
Same thing. Even if he was still unsigned right now the Giants wouldn't bring him in.
There was a conscious effort this offseason to cut bait with players who had questionable work ethics and/or numerous injury issues.
Last season was easily a top 2-3 season for Eli despite all the flaws in that offense (patched up/injured OL, no #2 WR, injured and non experienced TE's, and no running game whatsoever). So if he didn't get killed last season why would you all of a sudden expect him to now?
Any QB can have a horrible injury and any given freak play. But Eli has adapted to the deficiencies of the team around him and played really good football last year.
If Beatty returns, it's not a good sign.
Had his second-best season in passing yardage
Put it in the air a career-high 618 times while being 5th BEST in sack%
The reason the OL has to be improved is for the running game to improve, not because Eli is taking hits or in danger of getting his head taken off. Tell other people to watch "tape" though.
"On his behalf, he's practiced and he's worked hard to try to see what he was able to do with it, and it's just not gonna be something that will allow him to be the player he can be," said Coughlin, who added Beatty wore a strap to try to help him practice with the injury.
Moving on because he is injured is fine. He did not quit on his team.
I simply refuse to believe a lot of what GM's/Coaches say, especially when it comes to criticism.
I simply refuse to believe a lot of what GM's/Coaches say, especially when it comes to criticism.
Fair enough, but then WHO do we believe, my friend? The media?
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him under the bus?
I simply refuse to believe a lot of what GM's/Coaches say, especially when it comes to criticism.
Fair enough, but then WHO do we believe, my friend? The media?
I take everything with a grain of salt and to be honest, I put very little stock into what anyone says in the sports world. The media is largely non-credible and the coaches and front office aren't going to be totally forthcoming. The fan needs to draw their own conclusions and not take every comment as gospel.
That should tell you a lot.
Call it quitting, call it refusing to play, even call it a prudent medical decision. Whatever you call it doesn't change the fact that he consciously chose to sit out once healthy. That sort of fits the definition of quitting.
And the giants have rightfully moved on. Better than some posters, I see.
Or it could be that the "classy" Giants did what they always do when they want to get rid of a player for contractual reasons -leak shitty statements about the player to the press. A long Giants tradition dating back to the 60's. Better hope Flowers plays better this year than he did last year.
Either way, he's not coming back here, doesn't want to come back here and will have a job in the NFL if he wants one this coming season.
..but I'm pretty sure I've heard this one before.
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Why? We don't need bodies, we need guys that we can depend on. This isn't the LB corps. The O-Line is a unit where cohesion matters more than any other unit possibly across all sports. We need to field the same starting 5 as much as possible and build confidence. I have no confidence in Beatty or Schwartz to even give us 10 games let alone 16. I'm guessing the Giants don't either.
Moving on because he is injured at his age happens all the time. Nothing wrong with it. He did not quit on the team. There was a very good chance if healthy, he would be asked to reduce salary or move on.
What is funny is how BBI wants so called 'tougher' players. Pugh is tough. He also played RT with an injury and played like shit, and BBI bitched about his play. Flowers is a tough guy, played hurt at LT and people bitched about his play.
NOT the kind of meat I want in a sandwich!
Call it quitting, call it refusing to play, even call it a prudent medical decision. Whatever you call it doesn't change the fact that he consciously chose to sit out once healthy. That sort of fits the definition of quitting.
And the giants have rightfully moved on. Better than some posters, I see.
this is not true. Beatty tore his labrum while recovering from the torn pec or made it worse.
He tried to play with a brace and even tried guard to see if it would relieve the stress and pain but none worked.
It is definitely an injury others have played through, so the Giants might in fact feel he is soft, who knows that none of us can say for sure.
but....he worked out at right tackle and right guard with various braces during his time when PUP ended.
I don't care if the Giants are done with him and feel he's soft, but guys like him are between a rock and a hard place, if he plays with the injury and doesn't perform at a high level he's hammered for it, if he opts for surgery instead of gutting it out he's hammered for it and labeled soft.
can't win, unless he can play through the injury and perform at a high level, which in this case he felt he could not.
Also, categorizing Beatty as oft-injured might be true, but he played 16 games in a row for three seasons. that's kind of uncommon in the NFL for an injury prone guy.
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results
by the way -- rinse and repeat for Greg Schwartz
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either him or Schwartz. They didnt need the money and the line would look better right?
Why? We don't need bodies, we need guys that we can depend on. This isn't the LB corps. The O-Line is a unit where cohesion matters more than any other unit possibly across all sports. We need to field the same starting 5 as much as possible and build confidence. I have no confidence in Beatty or Schwartz to even give us 10 games let alone 16. I'm guessing the Giants don't either.
Who are the backup guards/tackles on this team? They dont have any legitimate depth and they have two backups starting already. How on earth would the Giants be in a worse position with one of those guys on the roster right now?
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taken away already. Make it stop!
If he could pass a physical (the big IF), he'd be a cheap OLT for some team. Yet there's been nothing on him but tumbleweeds.
If he could pass a physical (the big IF), he'd be a cheap OLT for some team. Yet there's been nothing on him but tumbleweeds.
Again, irrelevant to the Giants bringing him back, not suggesting anything, but Beatty turned down visits with both the Broncos and Raiders right when free agency started because he would not be able to pass a physical. Early May he said he was about two weeks away from being cleared.
I just don't feel the same way about Beatty. I don't know if letting him go hurts us, but I do know that keeping him here doesn't help us.
I just don't feel the same way about Beatty. I don't know if letting him go hurts us, but I do know that keeping him here doesn't help us.
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but I feel like letting him go without any thought or plan for replacing him was short-sighted or cutting off your nose to spite your face, etc.
I just don't feel the same way about Beatty. I don't know if letting him go hurts us, but I do know that keeping him here doesn't help us.
They have Beckham, Shepard and Harris with an all pro QB. Also if they get anything from Cruz forget about it. Vereen should also be used more
Both of those players were making the big bucks and were oft-injured. Had to part ways.
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either him or Schwartz. They didnt need the money and the line would look better right?
Why? We don't need bodies, we need guys that we can depend on. This isn't the LB corps. The O-Line is a unit where cohesion matters more than any other unit possibly across all sports. We need to field the same starting 5 as much as possible and build confidence. I have no confidence in Beatty or Schwartz to even give us 10 games let alone 16. I'm guessing the Giants don't either.
Who are the backup guards/tackles on this team? They dont have any legitimate depth and they have two backups starting already. How on earth would the Giants be in a worse position with one of those guys on the roster right now?
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I don't have the answer, but I know it isn't, won't, and shouldn't be Beatty. You don't do what the Giants did and they bring back a guy that was cut when revamping the makeup of the roster.
This goes beyond who plays on Sundays. Its fine if you disagree with it, but this wouldn't be the first time a stance like this was taken on a player/s.
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but I feel like letting him go without any thought or plan for replacing him was short-sighted or cutting off your nose to spite your face, etc.
I just don't feel the same way about Beatty. I don't know if letting him go hurts us, but I do know that keeping him here doesn't help us.
They have Beckham, Shepard and Harris with an all pro QB. Also if they get anything from Cruz forget about it. Vereen should also be used more
I don't think that they filled the hole. They got a Cruz replacement/insurance. But I've said that on too many other threads to waste more space here.
How on earth can you say there was no plan to move on from Randle?
I just don't feel the same way about Beatty. I don't know if letting him go hurts us, but I do know that keeping him here doesn't help us.
The Giants have their replacement for Randle. His name is Sterling Shepard.
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but I feel like letting him go without any thought or plan for replacing him was short-sighted or cutting off your nose to spite your face, etc.
I just don't feel the same way about Beatty. I don't know if letting him go hurts us, but I do know that keeping him here doesn't help us.
They have Beckham, Shepard and Harris with an all pro QB. Also if they get anything from Cruz forget about it. Vereen should also be used more
I don't think that they filled the hole. They got a Cruz replacement/insurance. But I've said that on too many other threads to waste more space here.
It's fine if you don't want to discuss it, but what was Victor Cruz if not a very good #2 WR? I feel like you're contradicting yourself.
I know, team culture and all that, move on from injured players - and maybe he doesn't even want to sign here - but what is the downside to bringing him to camp, giving him a chance to break through his soft reputation, and seeing if he can improve the team? If he doesn't, cut him.
Beatty makes this line much better. An improved line isn't just about Eli - it's about our run game, and the run game makes our defense better as well.
fix the right side of the line and this team's ceiling is THAT much higher.
I'm not going to say I don't get why the Giants cut them because I do, but wow, they must have really disliked those players way more than I anticipated.
I know, team culture and all that, move on from injured players - and maybe he doesn't even want to sign here - but what is the downside to bringing him to camp, giving him a chance to break through his soft reputation, and seeing if he can improve the team? If he doesn't, cut him.
Beatty makes this line much better. An improved line isn't just about Eli - it's about our run game, and the run game makes our defense better as well.
fix the right side of the line and this team's ceiling is THAT much higher.
The downside is the message it sends. Didn't you hear what Richburg said earlier in the week? You think a guy like him wants to rely on a guy like Beatty again?
End of the day he'd have no choice if the FO wanted Beatty back, but the point isn't about who Beatty is better than when healthy. Health and some say want is why he was cut, how do you just bring him right back?
Right, which makes me only assume what he'd think of Beatty coming back. Doesn't seem like it would be well received...
Out of the NFL? You obviously didn't read the link. Both Seattle and Denver inquired about him at the end of March or so, before he was fully recovered and ready to show himself. Two teams with a lot more success than the Giants the past few years.
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He's done here, he punched his ticket out of town, and possibly out of the NFL when he opted not to play last year.
Out of the NFL? You obviously didn't read the link. Both Seattle and Denver inquired about him at the end of March or so, before he was fully recovered and ready to show himself. Two teams with a lot more success than the Giants the past few years.
key word being "possibly"
This is the same organization that had Ian Allen starting at RT in 2003. Marshall Newhouse looks better already.
"Ok, Have you got a hold of him yet?"
1) coming back after the way they cut his for flowers (a rookie) might be some bad blood there over the manner of his exit?
2) would he be open to moving to RT? i think that he may have made clear he wasnt willing to play RT and that was a factor in them cutting him too,and would he be any good at RT he was more a pass blocker your RT is usually your more powerful OT and stronger vs the run (still gotta better than the car crash that is newhouse at least)
3) is he fully healed as has been said he was still waiting for clearance medically as recently as last month for an injury that happened a year ago and was a torn muscle which while bad isnt an ACL or something more serious unless the injury was worse than was reported?
i think they are waiting for monroe or another teams OT to shake lose as a result of all the OT that were drafted in the first couple of rounds this year i hope at least 1 of them suits the giants needs,still would have liked them to make a run at another OG to replace jerry too but RT is the bigger issue they could live with jerry there if RT was improved
Is there something about that particular injury?
I think Thurman also tore pec.
I believe I heard that was an injury associated with steroids. Anyone else hear that?
Poor timing or not..
I just never thought he was all that good and hated the contract at time. Good luck to him, but no thank you.
Looks like he nailed it.
Is there something about that particular injury?
I think Thurman also tore pec.
I believe I heard that was an injury associated with steroids. Anyone else hear that?
You heard that from no where
Great job making things up
I still recall the gist of Flaherty's comment. Which was something like "he [Beatty] spends too much time thinking about how he can and should REACT to an opponent's moves, rather than thinking about what he [Beatty] should be actively DOING to dominate his opponent.
It was clear they had high hopes for Will to be a MUCH better player than he was.
Still, he's way, way better than Newhouse! IMO.
Which is a shame because PHYSICALLY, this guy had all the tools, imo
I just don't feel the same way about Beatty. I don't know if letting him go hurts us, but I do know that keeping him here doesn't help us.
Are you kidding me? We drafted or signed 5 guys who could probably outperform that underachiever. I'd rather take my chances with Lewis, Powe, Sterling, and a few others we signed than have to put up with Randles moodiness.
a Starter or at the very least a back up Tackle .
Were up Schitz Creek is one of the starters go down.
I doubt it would be Beatty unless its late season desperation.