But if you really used the Eagles interview to shit all over the Giants, I hope there are consequences with regard to your NY legacy. Starting with the fact that it would be really cool if the Giants kept your ass out if the building going forward.
But if you really used the Eagles interview to shit all over the Giants, I hope there are consequences with regard to your NY legacy. Starting with the fact that it would be really cool if the Giants kept your ass out if the building going forward.
What a pathetic loser you are. Are you that unforgiving? The man was going through a personal crisis.
To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
more supportive of the Coach. But it was absolutely time for him to step away from the Giants' job. If he didn't think so, he may be just about the only person who feels that way.
However, I think anyone saying he shouldn't look to pursue doing what he loves is being pretty unfair. I don't know if he would have a chance to be a HC again (kind of doubt it), but I could see him working as a receivers coach, or something along those lines. I think he'd still be very effective somewhere, with a clean start.
I could much more easily see him in a front office position somewhere. That would make the most sense to me, maybe with an old-school organization such as the Steelers, Packers, for example.
To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
at their facility? It was odd to begin with, it would be extremely odd if it continues.
I agree, it was always odd for him to still be hanging around the facility as long as he's looking and possibly interviewing with other teams.
I can see Tom being brought in by another franchise that needs a change in culture and attitude, whether as head coach or in a team president kind of role.
If that happens, I hope he succeeds, but also agree it was time for the Giants to move onto the next chapter
Will be allowed back in the stadium for Super Bowl anniversaries and the like. But if he is still interested in coaching he should not be around now.
Furthermore Aquidneck has it generally right. If the report of him shitting on the Giants during an interview process is true, it's fairly inexcusable.
Anyone who is out of work and looking for a job who trashes their former employer during the interview process is considered 'unprofessional'. Usually they have not benefitted from banking millions as Tom C has.
Don't know why this topic has such polarizing views. We can respect the job Tom C did for years here and also acknowledge he was part of the problem in recent years, and even if Reese may or may not have deserved to be canned it does not mean Tom C is justified or gets a pass in trashing the Giants.
To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
It is more akin to moronic responses than idiot responses.
But if you really used the Eagles interview to shit all over the Giants, I hope there are consequences with regard to your NY legacy. Starting with the fact that it would be really cool if the Giants kept your ass out if the building going forward.
What a pathetic loser you are. Are you that unforgiving? The man was going through a personal crisis.
What an amazing fucktard you are to attack anonymous strangers on the internet because they don't worship their sacred cows in the same way you do.
Let me rephrase my original post for you:
Good luck, Tom. Thanks for everything, but don't shit on the team in front of a (our biggest) rival organization if you want to remain on good graces going forward.
Too late? Well, fuck you.
Personal crisis. Pffft! The man is a millionaire thanks largely to checks he cashed from the NYG. No one in his family is dying. I'm not sympathetic.
the personal crisis comment had me laughing as well. He had a good run, much better than most. Everything comes to an end. No excuse for his jilted lover routine with the Eagles. I feel far worse for the fifty somethings making a living who won't get employed due to age.
to move into a front office position. He wants to be a head coach. At this point in his career he is not going to be a position coach, or likely go back to college.
It's time for the Giants to take his key to the facility away and wish him the best. The relationship was a good one, but it ran it's course and is over. Time for everybody to move on.
we both said IF he did indeed do that in the interview....so we are holding the possibility the article is just smoke no fire. There is no recording of an interview.
Irrespective, if Tom is indeed actively shopping for a job he should have his visitation privileges revoked.
When it s not your world that has been disrupted. You also don f seem to understand that the quality that won t allow her m to let go is the same quality that made him a great coach.
To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
Yes, he was. And that has proven to be a truly idiotic response.
If I was one of those perennially bad teams in the NFL...
like St. Louis, Cleveland, Jacksonville, etc... I would absolutely hire Coughlin in any capacity I could to have him get them going on the right track.
The man's knowledge of the game is second to none, and he knows how to build a winning program, and has done it EVERYWHERE he has ever gone.
no doubt, but it doesn't excuse the vindictive bitterness against his long-time employer, and it doesn't make a good set-up if he wants anything to do with the Giants going forward unless by their invitation, in a role that can not in anyway be deemed a platform to undermine McAdoo, if such a role is possible.
Homer Jones:
You refer to a shaky GM, I agree, and would perhaps go further, as it largely his ineptitude that set up such a weak roster, which in turn did not make for an optimal last portion of TC's coaching career.
But if you can't see or accept that TC contributed more than his share of responsibility for the Giants' failings over the past few years, I don't know what to tell you: the handling of OBJ's meltdown, the end-of-game decision-making, the constant post-games excuses and blind spots, perhaps even personnel decisions (how can we know?): the body of work did not evidence a positive course going forward. I don't excuse Reese at all, far from it, but I there was no doubt it was time for Tom to go, two years ago really.
That he allowed or caused this exit to be saturated with bitterness and badmouthing is simply sad.
We all wish him the best going forward.
Came from worthless shit-stirrer Gary "Serby-lite" Meyers. I can imagine TC's jilting being evident, but if this story came from Meyers, it's likely way overblown.
He's already bored with his "other" life and doesn't know
what to do by 9am. Its probably tough on the guy since his whole life has been coaching, but doesn't justify the stupid criticisms on this thread (shocking for a BBI thread).
My guess is he won't find a coaching job (not in the NFL at least), but maybe some team picks him up as a consultant or advisor-type...maybe.
Wish he would get into more charity or speaking roles to fill up his time as the guy is just a heart of gold and you know has great stories to inform, educate and motivate.
To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
Homer said the NFL would be put on hold as organizations would be fighting one another to see who can garner TC's service.
is to get a job with the league talking to the young players who are coming in. Maybe going around from team to team working with the rookies on all of those things that will help them to be successful and to keep them out of trouble.
Remember that video of Ray Rice telling the kids that that need to find a fall guy to take the blame when some stupid shit goes down? Well THAT right there is what needs to change and I can see Tom taking over that program and those discussions.
Is he is a Very respected Coach around the League
But Age is the Problem . He might have said something
derogatory but I doubt the inconclusive so called
bashing considering the source ..
TC IMO is HOF Coach that managed to change his
colors to better himself and he has always
been a Man with Class that Millenniums are clueless
about .
He Probably would do wonders with Cleveland just
a change in culture for this Futile Organization .
I would love if he got one last shot with someone
but again at 70 I doubt it .
...that not unlike all professional sports teams, the Giants fan base is loaded with complete and total idiots.
Dear Dad(RIP) "The problem with being a Giant fan is having to deal with Giant fans." You will get people who use Pisarcik and Willie Young in their handles. Andy Robustelli's reign as GM will be glorified. Allie Sherman will be deified. But win a Super Bowl? Win 2? Get ready to be pissed on and vilified. And that includes Parcells as well as Coughlin.
...that not unlike all professional sports teams, the Giants fan base is loaded with complete and total idiots.
Dear Dad(RIP) "The problem with being a Giant fan is having to deal with Giant fans." You will get people who use Pisarcik and Willie Young in their handles. Andy Robustelli's reign as GM will be glorified. Allie Sherman will be deified. But win a Super Bowl? Win 2? Get ready to be pissed on and vilified. And that includes Parcells as well as Coughlin.
Touche. Too bad my dad passed in 2001. Good news? missed 9/11..Bad news? He never knew about Eli and our two SB wins
You been retired enjoy it.
But if you really used the Eagles interview to shit all over the Giants, I hope there are consequences with regard to your NY legacy. Starting with the fact that it would be really cool if the Giants kept your ass out if the building going forward.
Agree College & TC would still be a good fit Discipline-wise he could even go back to being the "old" TC
But if you really used the Eagles interview to shit all over the Giants, I hope there are consequences with regard to your NY legacy. Starting with the fact that it would be really cool if the Giants kept your ass out if the building going forward.
What a pathetic loser you are. Are you that unforgiving? The man was going through a personal crisis.
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
However, I think anyone saying he shouldn't look to pursue doing what he loves is being pretty unfair. I don't know if he would have a chance to be a HC again (kind of doubt it), but I could see him working as a receivers coach, or something along those lines. I think he'd still be very effective somewhere, with a clean start.
I could much more easily see him in a front office position somewhere. That would make the most sense to me, maybe with an old-school organization such as the Steelers, Packers, for example.
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
I agree, it was always odd for him to still be hanging around the facility as long as he's looking and possibly interviewing with other teams.
I can see Tom being brought in by another franchise that needs a change in culture and attitude, whether as head coach or in a team president kind of role.
If that happens, I hope he succeeds, but also agree it was time for the Giants to move onto the next chapter
Furthermore Aquidneck has it generally right. If the report of him shitting on the Giants during an interview process is true, it's fairly inexcusable.
Anyone who is out of work and looking for a job who trashes their former employer during the interview process is considered 'unprofessional'. Usually they have not benefitted from banking millions as Tom C has.
Don't know why this topic has such polarizing views. We can respect the job Tom C did for years here and also acknowledge he was part of the problem in recent years, and even if Reese may or may not have deserved to be canned it does not mean Tom C is justified or gets a pass in trashing the Giants.
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To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
It is more akin to moronic responses than idiot responses.
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Thanks for everything.
But if you really used the Eagles interview to shit all over the Giants, I hope there are consequences with regard to your NY legacy. Starting with the fact that it would be really cool if the Giants kept your ass out if the building going forward.
What a pathetic loser you are. Are you that unforgiving? The man was going through a personal crisis.
What an amazing fucktard you are to attack anonymous strangers on the internet because they don't worship their sacred cows in the same way you do.
Let me rephrase my original post for you:
Good luck, Tom. Thanks for everything, but don't shit on the team in front of a (our biggest) rival organization if you want to remain on good graces going forward.
Too late? Well, fuck you.
Personal crisis. Pffft! The man is a millionaire thanks largely to checks he cashed from the NYG. No one in his family is dying. I'm not sympathetic.
Age matters. The Eagles hired an offensive coordinator/rookie head coach who didn't even call football plays over Tom Coughlin.
Unless you're a TC fan, in which case he "turned the job down".
The article also doesn't actually say what he said, hint....because he didn't say shit.
It's time for the Giants to take his key to the facility away and wish him the best. The relationship was a good one, but it ran it's course and is over. Time for everybody to move on.
Hang around nude, reading the paper.
Hang around nude, reading the paper.
Weirdest thing I ever experienced. You're 100 percent right.
Irrespective, if Tom is indeed actively shopping for a job he should have his visitation privileges revoked.
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To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
Yes, he was. And that has proven to be a truly idiotic response.
The man's knowledge of the game is second to none, and he knows how to build a winning program, and has done it EVERYWHERE he has ever gone.
Homer Jones:
You refer to a shaky GM, I agree, and would perhaps go further, as it largely his ineptitude that set up such a weak roster, which in turn did not make for an optimal last portion of TC's coaching career.
But if you can't see or accept that TC contributed more than his share of responsibility for the Giants' failings over the past few years, I don't know what to tell you: the handling of OBJ's meltdown, the end-of-game decision-making, the constant post-games excuses and blind spots, perhaps even personnel decisions (how can we know?): the body of work did not evidence a positive course going forward. I don't excuse Reese at all, far from it, but I there was no doubt it was time for Tom to go, two years ago really.
That he allowed or caused this exit to be saturated with bitterness and badmouthing is simply sad.
We all wish him the best going forward.
My guess is he won't find a coaching job (not in the NFL at least), but maybe some team picks him up as a consultant or advisor-type...maybe.
Wish he would get into more charity or speaking roles to fill up his time as the guy is just a heart of gold and you know has great stories to inform, educate and motivate.
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To a stupid article. The guy wants to coach and the age is just a number. He said himself "we'll see" and the fools bray about his "legacy."
You guys should worry about what happens here first with a raw rookie head coach who was never HC of a high school team let alone a professional team with a coordinator who thought he should be the HC, a shaky GM and a meddling owner.
not for nothing, but weren't you the one saying prior that once Tom was let go he'd be swooped up in 1-2-3?
Homer said the NFL would be put on hold as organizations would be fighting one another to see who can garner TC's service.
Remember that video of Ray Rice telling the kids that that need to find a fall guy to take the blame when some stupid shit goes down? Well THAT right there is what needs to change and I can see Tom taking over that program and those discussions.
But Age is the Problem . He might have said something
derogatory but I doubt the inconclusive so called
bashing considering the source ..
TC IMO is HOF Coach that managed to change his
colors to better himself and he has always
been a Man with Class that Millenniums are clueless
about .
He Probably would do wonders with Cleveland just
a change in culture for this Futile Organization .
I would love if he got one last shot with someone
but again at 70 I doubt it .
Dear Dad(RIP) "The problem with being a Giant fan is having to deal with Giant fans." You will get people who use Pisarcik and Willie Young in their handles. Andy Robustelli's reign as GM will be glorified. Allie Sherman will be deified. But win a Super Bowl? Win 2? Get ready to be pissed on and vilified. And that includes Parcells as well as Coughlin.
Nothing personal, Pete, but when you have one finger pointing forward, you have three fingers pointing backwards.
Why do people feel the need to pile on threads just to post generally negative characterizations of other posters and what came previously?
Oh wait...I'm doing it myself.
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...that not unlike all professional sports teams, the Giants fan base is loaded with complete and total idiots.
Dear Dad(RIP) "The problem with being a Giant fan is having to deal with Giant fans." You will get people who use Pisarcik and Willie Young in their handles. Andy Robustelli's reign as GM will be glorified. Allie Sherman will be deified. But win a Super Bowl? Win 2? Get ready to be pissed on and vilified. And that includes Parcells as well as Coughlin.
Touche. Too bad my dad passed in 2001. Good news? missed 9/11..Bad news? He never knew about Eli and our two SB wins