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'86 Bavaro or '86 Banks: If you could add one to this team..

Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/16/2016 2:49 pm
Which one would it be?
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Def  
dust_bowl : 5/16/2016 2:51 pm : link
Bavarro.
Banks  
spike : 5/16/2016 2:51 pm : link
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Both Are Among My All Time Favorite Giants  
Trainmaster : 5/16/2016 2:55 pm : link
I would think Bavaro as he would help both the run game and passing game (chipping DEs and of course pass catching).

Banks is a prototype 3-4 LB. Might be somewhat underutilized in a 4-3.
that's a good question  
djm : 5/16/2016 2:55 pm : link
I think Bavaro's peak was legendary good. Not sure i'd say the same for Banks even if he was indeed the very best LB in football there for a little while. Bavaro was even better than that in my view. I'd probably choose Bavaro.
No question  
Sec 103 : 5/16/2016 2:56 pm : link
Bavaro...
Banks  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/16/2016 2:56 pm : link
without a doubt

Really excellent question  
old man : 5/16/2016 2:57 pm : link
Banks lends major credence to our LBs; Bavaro finishes off our O, skillplayerwise.
I flipflopped twice just typing this comment.
Going with Banks.
THIS GIants team  
David B. : 5/16/2016 3:00 pm : link
Could probably use Banks even more than Bavaro.
Banks  
Vin R : 5/16/2016 3:01 pm : link
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Banks  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 5/16/2016 3:01 pm : link
No question. He would completely re-formulate this defense. He was the best LB against the run that I have ever seen.
Banks  
Greg from LI : 5/16/2016 3:03 pm : link
For the simple reason that a great LB would have a bigger impact than a great TE
I'd take Banks....  
BillKo : 5/16/2016 3:03 pm : link
he would improve the run D, and TE coverage.

Bring physicality and ownership to the unit.
Virtual Tie  
arniefez : 5/16/2016 3:05 pm : link
either one would be one of the very best at his position in the league in 2016. If I had to choose because the Giants LB's have been so bad for so long I'd take Banks 50.1 vs 49.9
Excellent question.  
Matt M. : 5/16/2016 3:11 pm : link
Both fit big needs. My gut says Tye and the rookie Adams will surprise in their production and value. LB is more of a need. So, my answer is Banks even though Bavaro is my all time favorite Giant.
Love Banks  
KWALL2 : 5/16/2016 3:16 pm : link
but I'll take Bavaro. Bavaro and Beckham would dominate the game. What a pair that would be on the same team.
I think I might take the 2016 Bavaro or Banks  
Jimmy Googs : 5/16/2016 3:20 pm : link
for this team...


More seriously, I would go with  
Jimmy Googs : 5/16/2016 3:22 pm : link
Banks as we seem to get "by" with our tight ends but have no clue whatsoever in drafting/developing LBS.
Bavaro is one  
mavric : 5/16/2016 3:27 pm : link
of my favorite Giants of all time.

However, you pose the question, which one I'd add to the team. So I'd have to go Banks because I think we have enough offensive weapons to win another ring. Our problem has been defense and adding a player like Banks would have a bigger overall impact on the team.
Bavaro  
Rong5611 : 5/16/2016 3:29 pm : link
No brainer...We don't have a proven NFL caliber TE on the roster IMO. Bavaro would fill that hole rather nicely.

Our LB's aren't the greatest either, but I think we are in better shape there than at TE.
Banks.  
yatqb : 5/16/2016 3:30 pm : link
He'd be a great 4-3 SAM and could even play in the middle well. Just a great player, and we still need great players on D. Our offense will get by without Bavaro, one of my all-time favorites.

Now if the question was Jumbo Elliott vs. Banks we'd have a discussion going. Plant him at LT and shift over Flowers and we'd be in business on the OL. (Jumbo never could play RT when he was here, and begged for the move to LT after his first year.)
Banks Could Make This a Stifling Defense  
OntheRoad : 5/16/2016 3:30 pm : link
With Eli on the other side, that would be a formidable prospect.
Banks  
Moondawg : 5/16/2016 3:32 pm : link
greater need for mojo on that side of the ball.
and when's the last time we shut down a  
Moondawg : 5/16/2016 3:32 pm : link
receiving TE? That was Banks' bread and butter.
RE: Bavaro is one  
Coach Mason : 5/16/2016 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12959527 mavric said:
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of my favorite Giants of all time.

However, you pose the question, which one I'd add to the team. So I'd have to go Banks because I think we have enough offensive weapons to win another ring. Our problem has been defense and adding a player like Banks would have a bigger overall impact on the team.


+1
Banks no question.  
Walt in MD : 5/16/2016 3:50 pm : link
our passing game is just fine. Banks would step in and be our best defensive player by far. He was even better than LT in small stretches.
Not debatable. Banks was the best player on that team...  
x meadowlander : 5/16/2016 3:51 pm : link
...in the playoffs.

Honestly - as huge as LT was, there were plenty of games where Carl was the best linebacker - the best PLAYER on the field. SB XXI was one of those games.
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Danny Kanell : 5/16/2016 3:54 pm : link
Bavaro would make this offense ridiculous.
Since we're doing what ifs...  
BurlyMan : 5/16/2016 3:55 pm : link
What if Bavaro was on the team for the Carolina game? I think Bavaro would have put a stop to Norman's antics real quick. OBJ is such a target he needs a big brother/enforcer type to protect him. So Bavaro.

Banks  
Steve in South Jersey : 5/16/2016 4:07 pm : link
would transform this defense. Love them both the Banks would make a bigger difference.
Bavaro  
Big Blue '56 : 5/16/2016 4:09 pm : link
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Banks and I was not a fan.  
section125 : 5/16/2016 4:12 pm : link
We can get by with the TEs we have. But Banks would make the defense instantly credible.

I think of Bavaro knocking the shyte out of the DEs that I don't think today's TEs could do.
If they could both play at the same high levels  
Giant John : 5/16/2016 4:14 pm : link
Think we would have to take them both. They would each insist on being a Giant again.
RE: Both Are Among My All Time Favorite Giants  
djstat : 5/16/2016 4:17 pm : link
In comment 12959441 Trainmaster said:
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I would think Bavaro as he would help both the run game and passing game (chipping DEs and of course pass catching).

Banks is a prototype 3-4 LB. Might be somewhat underutilized in a 4-3.
Too bad we are only in a true 4-3 set about 20-25% of a game. Learn defense and learn how to watch a defense.

Sick and tired of all you talking about a 4-3 when NYG like most teams play more of a 4-2-5 then anything else.
great question  
andrew_nyg : 5/16/2016 4:17 pm : link
and every bit as tough to answer.

There are so many things each guy brought to the team that I don't think this current team has that it's a shame to have to choose.

Bavaro with this offensive scheme would be a lock for the HOF.

That being said, when I look at all of the team needs from on the field performance and leadership and then add locker room presence...that's the tie-breaker that goes to Banks for me.

He would be that guy that as Eli said (I believe referring to Tuck) you have the defense handled, I've got the offense.
RE: Banks and I was not a fan.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/16/2016 4:18 pm : link
In comment 12959603 section125 said:
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We can get by with the TEs we have. But Banks would make the defense instantly credible.

I think of Bavaro knocking the shyte out of the DEs that I don't think today's TEs could do.


Except Bavaro, would solve the major concerns people have about the right side..:)
According to this article  
NINEster : 5/16/2016 4:21 pm : link
Carl Banks was/is more important.
Link - ( New Window )
Holy Shit... LOL  
Johnny5 : 5/16/2016 4:21 pm : link
I don't think I could answer that question.
I'd take Banks  
David in LA : 5/16/2016 4:22 pm : link
Eli gets the most out of the TE's we supply him with, it's not a position I'm too worried about.
Bavaro  
RAIN : 5/16/2016 4:26 pm : link
don't know if Banks' would even be on the field for three downs.
Banks  
ECham : 5/16/2016 4:29 pm : link
his ability to be a complete LB playing the run, covering a TE, and blitzing would play better today than it did in 1986.
Eli  
Tuckrule : 5/16/2016 4:30 pm : link
gets at least 500 yards and 5 touchdowns a year from the tight end position regardless of the trash they throw out there. Shockey, boss, ballard, unicorn, myers, donnell it doesn't matter. Give me banks all day
Banks.  
CT Charlie : 5/16/2016 4:50 pm : link
Unless we're pleasantly surprised this September, the LB's will be more of a liability than the TE's.
Love both  
JOrthman : 5/16/2016 5:09 pm : link
but love the attitude Bavaro would bring to the offense. He would also impact the run game.
Banks  
RobCarpenter : 5/16/2016 5:32 pm : link
And it's not even close.
1986 Banks  
tomjgiant : 5/16/2016 6:02 pm : link
would without a doubt be the best defender on this team.Bavaro would be a big upgrade at TE,but this offense is more about the WR's.
Love Banks but he would be wasted by Spagnoulo's scheme  
Victor in CT : 5/16/2016 6:24 pm : link
Bavaro would have more impact on this team.
Banks  
DonQuixote : 5/16/2016 7:20 pm : link
Shame on the OP for making me vote against Mark Bavaro!
Banks was the best LB ever at stringing out a running play and  
baadbill : 5/16/2016 7:25 pm : link
playing off the TE ... he was a perfect bookend for LT who ran the runners down from behind as Banks strung out the play. Banks belongs in the HOF imo.

Having said that, in today's pass first league, Bank's value wouldn't be the same as it was back on that 1986 squad. Bavaro, however, brought something more than just a TE. He brought toughness. He was a leader that got the whole team jazzed without saying a word (he literally didn't talk) - he just left everything on the field. Toughest SOB I ever saw play football. With Beckham, he would literally transform this team.
Banks  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 5/16/2016 7:29 pm : link
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You can't go wrong with either.  
compton : 5/16/2016 7:49 pm : link
This comes down to if you prefer a sideline to sideline enforcer on defense that can stop the run and cover TEs and RBs vs. a tough as nails TE than can do everything at a high level. I have got to go with defense on this one. Banks it is.
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