"Apple should see significant playing time as well,

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I tend to agree with you. He very may well play the slot, but I could also see Jenkins being moved their in the nickel.

if they end up paying Jenkins 11M/yr to play the slot

in the slot at all. Apple was selected in preparation of DRC's 2017 cut. I can see the Giants signing Hall or monitoring a June 1st cut to fill the slot position before you see Jenkins or Apple assigned to fill that need.

A no-lose situation, he is young and I believe the most he has made in a year is about $1.5M. If his issues aren't physical, he was a decent slot guy. JMHO.

And then move outside if we release DRC next season. The more playing time the better, I really like our CB's going into this season. Staying healthy is now the key.

He doesn't play it either.

to be a CB who can make plays. Whether that is covering the slot or the Y shouldn't matter.

If the Giants go to a 3 CB alignment, Jenkins is best equipped to handle the slot WR.

In comment 12960106 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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to be a CB who can make plays. Whether that is covering the slot or the Y shouldn't matter. If the Giants go to a 3 CB alignment, Jenkins is best equipped to handle the slot WR.

It's not a question of desire, it's a question of ability to do so. Jenkins has played as much slot in his career as Apple.

That the starting slot corner is not on the current roster. Be it Boykin, Hall or someone on another roster at the moment.

In comment 12960076 CromartiesKid21 said:

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if they end up paying Jenkins 11M/yr to play the slot

Don't see the logic in this at all. Defending WRs is what CBs are paid to do. What difference does it make where the WR or the CB is. Passes to slot receivers count just as much as any others.

are overrating him based on his contract. It's very likely he'll kick inside and Apple will play outside in extra DB looks, simply because it's the "easiest" way to get him on the field and acclimated to the NFL game. It gives him less space to cover and the boundary as an extra defender, among other things.

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It's not a question of desire, it's a question of ability to do so. Jenkins has played as much slot in his career as Apple.

It is also why I said Jenkins is the best equipped to be a slot CB, at least between he, DRC and Apple.

I do think we will see a different CB handle most of the slot. One that isn't on the team yet.

In comment 12960110 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 12960106 FatMan in Charlotte said: Quote: to be a CB who can make plays. Whether that is covering the slot or the Y shouldn't matter. If the Giants go to a 3 CB alignment, Jenkins is best equipped to handle the slot WR. It's not a question of desire, it's a question of ability to do so. Jenkins has played as much slot in his career as Apple.

But Jenkins is a vet who, one might think, could handle the transition far better than a rookie.

...is being paid to help improve the league's worst pass defense last year, period. Where he lines up won't matter if he ends up leading the team or even the league in interceptions, right guys?

Jenkins is going to be on the field for basically every down. It's not really a "demotion" if he kicks inside in Nickel and Dime packages while Apple comes in and plays outside. The Giants didn't draft Apple to be a slot corner, he's going to make his living outside. It's about putting these players in the most logical positions where we'll get the best return.

but there's plenty of precedent for the Giants to play a rookie out of position to get him on the field.

In comment 12960106 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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to be a CB who can make plays. Whether that is covering the slot or the Y shouldn't matter. If the Giants go to a 3 CB alignment, Jenkins is best equipped to handle the slot WR.

I completely agree with the southern fatman.

I think it depends on the position. We did it with Collins but it was really only out of necessity. I don't think that will necessarily be the case with Apple.

Our FA signing of Donte Deayon from Boise State.

In comment 12960100 superspynyg said:

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And then move outside if we release DRC next season. The more playing time the better, I really like our CB's going into this season. Staying healthy is now the key.

Sorry I was talking about Apple.

They've never shied away from challenging the young players they think highly of.

On the Trevin Wade kid he played pretty decent for being in way over his head last season and he is in year 2 with Spagnoulo.....

don't get your hopes up. He was targeted last year quite a bit.

Richburg was also kind of done out of necessity because Walton couldn't play OG and we basically had no depth anywhere else. Richburg playing out of position was just better than the alternatives which were terrible.

I wouldn't be shocked if Apple kicked inside in some packages but I would guess they'd prefer not to overload him in year one and will keep him outside as often as they can. I don't think Jenkins has really played inside either but the transition would be smoother for him since he's already well adjusted to the NFL game.

He plays the outside. If he is indeed slated to replace DRC then start his learning outside. Jenkins can always be moved back out.

but far more likely he plays outside more often.

In comment 12960073 Eric from BBI said:

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I tend to agree with you. He very may well play the slot, but I could also see Jenkins being moved their in the nickel.

Heard on big blue kickoff live that they do in fact expect Jenkins to slide inside and Apple will stay on the outside. Also is wade going to be the 4th corner?

solely on his body type. The same way most people are projecting Sheppard to slot receiver. I understand Jenkins hasn't played slot in the NFL, but so what? There are many who say playing without a sideline is more difficult than playing outside, so let's let the guy with more experience handle it. Paying Jenkins $11 Million is irrelevant to where he plays in nickel, if he's on the field for all three downs.

...could play slot. Jackson was a CB at Notre Dame and I think I recall reading somewhere that Thompson played some CB at Boise State. In any case, I pulled this nugget from the Washington Post....

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Thompson has exceptional ball skills, tallying 19 interceptions during his college career. He excelled rolling down over the top of a slot receiver to allow the slot corner to blitz.

In comment 12960460 Milton said:

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...could play slot. Jackson was a CB at Notre Dame and I think I recall reading somewhere that Thompson played some CB at Boise State. In any case, I pulled this nugget from the Washington Post.... Quote: Thompson has exceptional ball skills, tallying 19 interceptions during his college career. He excelled rolling down over the top of a slot receiver to allow the slot corner to blitz.

Did you mean Mykele Thompson? Because he has CB experience and speed. Moreso than Darian...

your FS will roll down from his position and pick up a receiver, it's not often they line up in man near the LOS and play press. Few FS could actually play CB as Antrel Rolle could, for example.

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solely on his body type. The same way most people are projecting Sheppard to slot receiver. I understand Jenkins hasn't played slot in the NFL, but so what?

Well, the "so what" could be that he's terrible at it the same way DRC was when the Eagles said "so what" and played him there even though he wasn't a slot corner.

After he began playing, it was decided that he was better suited to play Safety.

So it isn't surprising that he could play as a CB if needed.

it's rare that a FS is capable of playing CB in a traditional sense. It's not uncommon for a FS (or SS) to roll down in coverage and take on a slot receiver.

The Thompsons would fit the latter, more than likely.

He's the #10 pick. Those guys generally play at least a somewhat significant amount of snaps.

is a component of a shell or zone scheme. The FS rolls over and down to pick up a receiver, but he can see the QB and receiver in front of him, and his depth from the LOS also allows him a better shot of keeping the receiver in front of him. If he can't achieve this, then he might have use different techniques a CB would use to try and defend (trail, re-direct, track the flight of the pass, etc).

So, the FS isn't totally playing CB in a traditional sense. Or you're trying to protect him from doing so, more or less.

as a rookie. look at how spags used ross and t2, 2 similar athletes at the slot CB position as rookies.
DRC and Jenkins are being paid good $$$ to play outside, that's their position, thats what they were signed to do. spags D puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the outside CBs - they don't get a lot of help over the top yet must play aggressively.

much easier for a rookie to come in and play the slot here

spags will use apple's size, speed + athleticism to be disruptive as a slot CB while Jenkins + DRC do their thing outside. it's what makes sense

Most teams don't even have a slot wide receiver in the Edleman/welker mold but that seems to be who everyone assumes the associated corner will be covering week-in/week-out.

Even Cruz who was considered one of the better slot recievers before the injuries was never a "quicker than fast guy". He just ran good routes and was a natural catcher and athlete. Most guys getting lined up inside are just smaller receivers who either need a free release or are 3rd on a depth chart where 1 and 2 project to the outside.

So I don't think it is really out of the question for Apple to be able to find success at the position, but it would probably be in the giants best interest to track down a guy who can cover those quicker guys for when we do face them.

this isn't fox's D where we need a small CB to shadow the slot WR. the slot WR is physical in Spags D