9.75 hands, which are good. Didn't run the three cone or short shuttle at the combine. He did better at his pro day running a 4.46 (he had a hammy before the combine). And finally ran a 3 cone wich was 7.46 (ugh). So what we might have is a straight liney, fairly fast guy with good sized hands.
9.75 hands, which are good. Didn't run the three cone or short shuttle at the combine. He did better at his pro day running a 4.46 (he had a hammy before the combine). And finally ran a 3 cone wich was 7.46 (ugh). So what we might have is a straight liney, fairly fast guy with good sized hands.
^This. Vertical, not horizontal speed. But that means he’ll likely have to use strength, not lateral quickness to get off the LOS. I’m not sure he has the upper body strength to do so. But we do need a deep threat. He’s one of a number of receivers in competition for the fifth and sixth WR spots.
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PRO DAY RESULTS
40-yard dash: 4.46 seconds
Vertical: 36 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 5 inches
Short shuttle: 4.45 seconds
3-cone: 7.5 seconds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Found his way into several, big play catches down the field for Bowling Green. Has size and arm length for desired catch radius to pluck floaters over the top. Able to avoid head-on collisions in the middle of the field and adjust routes while making the catch. Saw production dramatically spike across the board despite 11 fewer targets than in 2014. Half of his 16 touchdown catches were for 45 yards or more.
WEAKNESSES After a red-hot start, cooled way down over the second half of the season. Looked completely overmatched against Tennessee's cornerbacks. Doesn't have vertical push to back cornerbacks off and allow him room for comebacks. Missing twitch or suddenness to uncover in tight quarters. Needs to add strength. Ball skills need work. Gets late start leaping and attacking the downfield throw at high point.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5 or 6
BOTTOM LINE While Lewis produced some eye-popping deep ball numbers, he's not a true vertical receiver in terms of speed and ball skills. His buildup speed can get him past cornerbacks looking to squat on Bowling Green's underneath work, but he could find vertical success in the NFL to be exceptionally challenging due to his lack of speed and overall traits.
but I think he needs to add some muscle. I also don't think he'll look very fast or athletic on an NFL field. But the one thing I really like is he's got some "cute" moves, where he is essentially outthinking DB's. If he can carry this over, he has a chance.
last season. He seems to have a nose for the end zone and is willing to fight for the ball. If he can learn the route tree, he might find himself as the 5th receiver and if Cruz fails to show he still has it, or if Harris gets a case of the droppsies, he could find himself moving up the pecking order.
All comes down to his ability to learn NFL routes and be able to line up in different spots. Hope his bad history with women is all history and not a sign of things to come.
The attendance at some of those games was pathetic Â
weather in the MAC and you'll see. This is another thing this kid has going for him, the winds at BG and around the conference. I remember as a 400 IM hurdler at BG coming off the last turn and that wind coming out of the open end of the Doyt, cheeses! Inside, at times catching balls was even worse, they've added height on the stadium since I was there, but still, it blows! He (Lewis) never fights the ball in any situation and usually has his body in a good position to catch any ball. One of those traits you can't teach, built in "trig" as I've come to call it! He gets reps in camp he's going to bump someone off of the roster, my guess, Jeremy Davis! Just a hunch IMHO! This whole high school thing needs to be shelved, the kid has had no issues since then.
From the little I have watched of him vs Maybe or Power or Dable Â
that the game play transcends the workout numbers.I think he is one of those cases.
He has a chance to be #3 receiver and perhaps big play downfield specialist. Maybe more. I love the talent. Amazing hands on this kid. Couple Odell like catches. And he seems to have that 'dawg' in 'em.
but I think he needs to add some muscle. I also don't think he'll look very fast or athletic on an NFL field. But the one thing I really like is he's got some "cute" moves, where he is essentially outthinking DB's. If he can carry this over, he has a chance.
On all of our guys, and read every draft write up, and I have to be real here- I do not believe this kid will make the 53. PS probably.
So which of our draft picks and UDFAs will make the 53 and who will be stashed on IR?
Glad you asked Lou.
Sterling for sure, and I think Powe wins out over Lewis. His size is needed and intriguing. Lewis doesn't look tough to me and I think the jump to the pros will take him more time to adjust.
Almost all of his wins are on fly routes. His route running looks prett basic. He also looks physically bigger then these players. In the NFL his size is average,
He obviously has some talent. However, with his past I think he will need to dominate to earn a roster spot.
I like Maye better. I think Maybe produced against much tougher competition.
I don't see Maye having the tools to make it in the NFL and that's strictly off tape, disregarding his combine or Pro day #s. He prolly has the want to but little else.
Powe is intriguing and has tools but just emerged rather late. As a fellow Bear, my heart roots for him, but does he have the want to or mental toughness? I doubt it, or he would've been more of a contributor at Cal I think.
Dable will likely be overwhelmed by the astounding differences between European FB and the NFL. Plus he's already almost old for the position. He's a "Rudy"type story even if athletically very gifted.
And every one of them has to pass either Myles or Davis to earn a roster spot if Cruz returns.
I like Lewis the best from tape but I was so far wrong on Barden I make no claim to knowing shit about evaluating WRs especially.
Kadron Boone. Only a college backup - but to OBJ and Jarvis Landry, who would have parked all the guys mentioned above on the bench too. And the Giants now have his college position coach on the staff, right? So he's got as good a shot as anybody...
Powe is the best complement to what we already have Â
Ball got spread around a lot at Cal. This is a guy who is apt to be more important to a team then his individual stats my indicate.
If SS is as advertised, and Eli annoints one of the TEs, we are really looking for the 4th or 5th read in most circumstances. Guy like Powe or maybe Davis might be perfect for that.
Re: Maye - Do you mean physical tools such as size/strength/speed?
If so, I hear what you are saying. At the same time, I think he is clearly the better route runner then Lewis. In his highlight wheel you see an advanced route tree. He's catching the wheel route, He's making cuts over the middle , and even more then that there's a play where he's playing sandlot football with his QB and makes the play on the fly when the CB scrambles.
He did catch 10 balls for 116 yards vs Ohio State which had probably the most drafted players and he scored a TD in front of apple.
He had 80 touches and 1 Fumble.
And the kid is playing OSU, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconson and Nebraska. I'm rooting for him.
I tend to think the fact there are other smaller WR work against him though. I don't see a huge size difference between him and Lewis at least not on paper.
Version of the Odell/Cruz/Shepard group. Probably slot only with smaller hands and a tenth slower and quicker. He does seem to have plus body control like the not so big three, though, and we'll have to see if this is playable.
Re: Maye - Do you mean physical tools such as size/strength/speed?
If so, I hear what you are saying. At the same time, I think he is clearly the better route runner then Lewis. In his highlight wheel you see an advanced route tree. He's catching the wheel route, He's making cuts over the middle , and even more then that there's a play where he's playing sandlot football with his QB and makes the play on the fly when the CB scrambles.
He did catch 10 balls for 116 yards vs Ohio State which had probably the most drafted players and he scored a TD in front of apple.
He had 80 touches and 1 Fumble.
And the kid is playing OSU, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconson and Nebraska. I'm rooting for him.
I tend to think the fact there are other smaller WR work against him though. I don't see a huge size difference between him and Lewis at least not on paper.
Pretty much what Phil said, he's a "lower case" version of our top 3 but much slower, less explosive, smaller catch radius version. Lower case and smaller font. I only looked at his highlights once but literally nothing about him impressed me in them aside from the fact that he was productive. So my take was that he was the best weapon on a Gopher squad that really didn't have anyone else to push the ball upfield so he got a lot of schemes and situations produced for him that enabled him to exploit certain defenses...
I just don't see him doing much in a scheme that won't feature him, does that make sense? Whereas Lewis looks like he might just run past people given the right opportunities at any level, and he has at the least outstanding ball skills. Frankly I don't know how to adjust what I see to the level of competition, so I could be way off by that alone.
If a guy like Darius Powe had played for the Gophers or BG, would either Maye or Lewis have been focal points of their offense? I wonder ...
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^This. Vertical, not horizontal speed. But that means he’ll likely have to use strength, not lateral quickness to get off the LOS. I’m not sure he has the upper body strength to do so. But we do need a deep threat. He’s one of a number of receivers in competition for the fifth and sixth WR spots.
40-yard dash: 4.46 seconds
Vertical: 36 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 5 inches
Short shuttle: 4.45 seconds
3-cone: 7.5 seconds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Found his way into several, big play catches down the field for Bowling Green. Has size and arm length for desired catch radius to pluck floaters over the top. Able to avoid head-on collisions in the middle of the field and adjust routes while making the catch. Saw production dramatically spike across the board despite 11 fewer targets than in 2014. Half of his 16 touchdown catches were for 45 yards or more.
WEAKNESSES After a red-hot start, cooled way down over the second half of the season. Looked completely overmatched against Tennessee's cornerbacks. Doesn't have vertical push to back cornerbacks off and allow him room for comebacks. Missing twitch or suddenness to uncover in tight quarters. Needs to add strength. Ball skills need work. Gets late start leaping and attacking the downfield throw at high point.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5 or 6
BOTTOM LINE While Lewis produced some eye-popping deep ball numbers, he's not a true vertical receiver in terms of speed and ball skills. His buildup speed can get him past cornerbacks looking to squat on Bowling Green's underneath work, but he could find vertical success in the NFL to be exceptionally challenging due to his lack of speed and overall traits.
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All comes down to his ability to learn NFL routes and be able to line up in different spots. Hope his bad history with women is all history and not a sign of things to come.
He has a chance to be #3 receiver and perhaps big play downfield specialist. Maybe more. I love the talent. Amazing hands on this kid. Couple Odell like catches. And he seems to have that 'dawg' in 'em.
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So which of our draft picks and UDFAs will make the 53 and who will be stashed on IR?
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On all of our guys, and read every draft write up, and I have to be real here- I do not believe this kid will make the 53. PS probably.
So which of our draft picks and UDFAs will make the 53 and who will be stashed on IR?
Glad you asked Lou.
Sterling for sure, and I think Powe wins out over Lewis. His size is needed and intriguing. Lewis doesn't look tough to me and I think the jump to the pros will take him more time to adjust.
He obviously has some talent. However, with his past I think he will need to dominate to earn a roster spot.
I like Maye better. I think Maybe produced against much tougher competition.
Powe is intriguing and has tools but just emerged rather late. As a fellow Bear, my heart roots for him, but does he have the want to or mental toughness? I doubt it, or he would've been more of a contributor at Cal I think.
Dable will likely be overwhelmed by the astounding differences between European FB and the NFL. Plus he's already almost old for the position. He's a "Rudy"type story even if athletically very gifted.
And every one of them has to pass either Myles or Davis to earn a roster spot if Cruz returns.
I like Lewis the best from tape but I was so far wrong on Barden I make no claim to knowing shit about evaluating WRs especially.
If SS is as advertised, and Eli annoints one of the TEs, we are really looking for the 4th or 5th read in most circumstances. Guy like Powe or maybe Davis might be perfect for that.
Until I see it, I count of Cruz for nada.
I just don't see a lot out of Lewis other then when he gets behind a DB on a fly route he's gone.
If so, I hear what you are saying. At the same time, I think he is clearly the better route runner then Lewis. In his highlight wheel you see an advanced route tree. He's catching the wheel route, He's making cuts over the middle , and even more then that there's a play where he's playing sandlot football with his QB and makes the play on the fly when the CB scrambles.
He did catch 10 balls for 116 yards vs Ohio State which had probably the most drafted players and he scored a TD in front of apple.
He had 80 touches and 1 Fumble.
And the kid is playing OSU, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconson and Nebraska. I'm rooting for him.
I tend to think the fact there are other smaller WR work against him though. I don't see a huge size difference between him and Lewis at least not on paper.
If so, I hear what you are saying. At the same time, I think he is clearly the better route runner then Lewis. In his highlight wheel you see an advanced route tree. He's catching the wheel route, He's making cuts over the middle , and even more then that there's a play where he's playing sandlot football with his QB and makes the play on the fly when the CB scrambles.
He did catch 10 balls for 116 yards vs Ohio State which had probably the most drafted players and he scored a TD in front of apple.
He had 80 touches and 1 Fumble.
And the kid is playing OSU, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconson and Nebraska. I'm rooting for him.
I tend to think the fact there are other smaller WR work against him though. I don't see a huge size difference between him and Lewis at least not on paper.
Pretty much what Phil said, he's a "lower case" version of our top 3 but much slower, less explosive, smaller catch radius version. Lower case and smaller font. I only looked at his highlights once but literally nothing about him impressed me in them aside from the fact that he was productive. So my take was that he was the best weapon on a Gopher squad that really didn't have anyone else to push the ball upfield so he got a lot of schemes and situations produced for him that enabled him to exploit certain defenses...
I just don't see him doing much in a scheme that won't feature him, does that make sense? Whereas Lewis looks like he might just run past people given the right opportunities at any level, and he has at the least outstanding ball skills. Frankly I don't know how to adjust what I see to the level of competition, so I could be way off by that alone.
If a guy like Darius Powe had played for the Gophers or BG, would either Maye or Lewis have been focal points of their offense? I wonder ...