If I'm the coach, and I see what I think I'm seeing, I don't let any other team anywhere near this prospect. I know he's just one new WR prospect among many on the team. And I know he's as raw as a prospect can be. And that the level of competition at which he played is ridiculous. But I don't care!
I hate comparing raw prospects to NFL players, and over praising players who've never set foot on an NFL field, mostly because it's dumb, but also because I'm a little superstitious and I don't want to jinx them. But I gotta say it, he reminds me of a cross between a young Hakeem Nicks and a more athletic Plaxico Burress. He's got size, speed, natural hands, great quick-twitch athleticism, PLUS power and toughness.
Obviously I'm not the only one seeing this, or he wouldn't have gotten signed. And one or more of press at the rookie camp commented to the effect that his "tool kit" was obvious. If they can get this kid even halfway coached up, I think they've got a player. Ah, hell! I think they've got a hell of player!
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German league to the NFL is a HUGE jump.
I sure would!
German league to the NFL is a HUGE jump.
Very true, but if he's got the ability I think he may have, I don't know that it makes a lot of difference. I agree that ordinarily he's the kind of player who would be ideal for the PS, but in this one instance, I'm not sure he'd stay there very long.
When he first signed with the Giants a few posters here that played against him in Europe and some world tournament mentioned he was a better KR then WR and that Dable struggled against the better corners in the German league.
Perhaps they will post on this thread. I hope he makes it, but its a long way to the NFL from the German league.
But you're still seeing what your seeing. The guys against which he's playing don't make him any slower, or less athletic and agile, or less tough, or make his hands worse.
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But you can't take away anything from that highlight video. He is playing against guys that would have a tough time playing semi-pro ball here. Lets wait to see how he performs against NFL DBs.
But you're still seeing what your seeing. The guys against which he's playing don't make him any slower, or less athletic and agile, or less tough, or make his hands worse.
I'd say it's right (at least at the time) that a person that size wasn't supposed to be able to stride and cut like he was capable of. He was a legitimate 6'5 230.
I would say more muscular.
More athletic is a stretch
German league to the NFL is a HUGE jump.
Giants still need a vet WR with size for the red zone. Every team needs a red zone threat. The smurfs will be great inside the 20's but Eli still needs a big target. It won't be Mr Dable.
I think we've all established that the competition is poor and he's a longshot to make an impact. Taking a flyer on an UDFA with good physical traits is low risk.
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I think we've all established that the competition is poor and he's a longshot to make an impact. Taking a flyer on an UDFA with good physical traits is low risk.
Ummm Dave, you're the guy that's said he is "more athletic" than Plaxico Burgess was, right? More athletic than a top 10 NFL draft pick who amassed 550 catches for 8500 yards and 64 TDs.
You remember the Plax at the end of his career maybe, or the guy with the bum knee and bad high ankle sprain I guess. Go rewatch Plax take apart Al Harris. He did it with superior quickness as much as he did it with strength.
Watch football instead of comparing 40 yard dash times at totally different venues.
Dable looked good vs the German league, but he is nowhere near the athlete Plax was at his best.
A great teammate!
A great teammate!
Plax was an excellent and willing blocker. Steve Smith Sr. was even better!
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But you can't take away anything from that highlight video. He is playing against guys that would have a tough time playing semi-pro ball here. Lets wait to see how he performs against NFL DBs.
But you're still seeing what your seeing. The guys against which he's playing don't make him any slower, or less athletic and agile, or less tough, or make his hands worse.
True, but the quality and level of players he is up against distort his speed, athleticism and agility; not to mention provides no indication of how well he will perform against the worlds most gifted football players.
I don't really believe that's true. The hash marks go by as fast as they go by, irrespective of how fast the defenders are moving. Great body control and quick-twitch reactions have absolutely noting to do with what the defender is doing. Scooping up ball from anywhere doesn't either.
What WILL BE very different is the coverage he'll see and both the natural ability and vastly superior skill set of an NFL corner. But my belief is he's got the tools to compete if he picks up the coaching quickly enough.
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One thing that was never talked about was his blocking. He was the best blocking WR I've ever seen. And he loved it! Did a terrific job on downfield blocking.
A great teammate!
Plax was an excellent and willing blocker. Steve Smith Sr. was even better!
I remember Steve Smith giving a lick. But I can recall Plax de-cleating defenders. Loved it!
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He is in for a wake up call I think.
Best of luck to him though.
Is it possible? Sure. But, there are already at least 4 spots filled. So, he is fighting for one of 2 spots against a few guys.
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will jump his routes and hit him so hard he will be booking a flight back to France the next day. It is a fantasy to think he can even make the practice squad.
It will be interesting to see how he reacts
when the Pre-Season Bullets start to Fly .
The Leap in Competition is Astronomical compared
to what looked like HS football .
Maybe he Makes the Practice Squad but I doubt It .
Based purely on all the disadvantages he's trying to overcome, it's hard to see him sticking unless WR happens to be the spot decimated by the annual plague-of-injuries-at-one-position. As others have said, Beckham, Shepard, Cruz* and Harris are locked in. That leaves a maximum of three spots - more likely two - for all of the following, in rough order of probability:
Geremy Davis
Myles White
Roger Lewis
K.J. Maye
Darius Powe
Tavarres King
Anthony Dablé
Donte Foster
Kadron Boone
* - Subject to obvious caveats regarding VC's knee.
That one stung a bit.