Among the Native Americans reached over a five-month period ending in April, more than 7 in 10 said they did not feel the word “Redskin” was disrespectful to Indians. An even higher number — 8 in 10 — said they would not be offended if a non-native called them that name......
Across every demographic group, the vast majority of Native Americans say the team’s name does not offend them, including 80 percent who identify as politically liberal, 85 percent of college graduates, 90 percent of those enrolled in a tribe, 90 percent of non-football fans and 91 percent of those between the ages of 18 and 39. |
LOL! Well you're getting laughed at today.
Wait - a talking college? Now that's the shit.
Greg my bad lol I was typing that post on the subway and rushing.
The word bindi is both the word for the dot and okra.
Honestly though, I'm not as in tune or familiar with my indian heritage as I should be, I'm probably a pretty awful resource
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Most Indians don't give a shit one way or the other - don't love the name, don't hate it either, don't really care. Many of them roll their eyes at the idea of white people getting bent out of shape about the names of sports teams while ignoring the many very serious problems present in a lot of their communities. There is a small, noisy activist contingent that does care. Few Indians pay them much mind, either.
Again, that's just what I've been told anecdotally by a friend who is full Navajo and lives in New Mexico in a region that is largely Indian.
The way I interpret what your Navajo friend is saying is that most Indians attitude is, essentially: "This is your problem, White people, not ours. You deal with it. And how you choose to deal with it is on you, not on us." In comparison to all of the other fucked up things we've done to Indian people and culture , this one seems trivial to many of them.
But using that piece of information as justification for perpetuating the common usage of a racial slur is also fucked up. In fact, it's an indication of just how deep our fuckeduppedness goes.
And you know what else is fucked up? The very prevalent notion in our society today that morality and ethics should be shaped by polling data.
I 'm curious as to why you feel you have to "interpret" in the worst way possible, what a Navajo has said?
I don't know what you mean by "in the worst way possible". But let me see if I can satisfy your curiosity... I wasn't interpreting what a Navajo said. I was interpreting what his friend said he said about what he thinks most Indians he knows think about the subject. In order for that statement to have any meaning or relevance, I'd say that a fair amount of interpretation is warranted. And the bulk of my interpretation is based on the poster's own words: "Many of them roll their eyes at the idea of white people getting bent out of shape about the names of sports teams while ignoring the many very serious problems present in a lot of their communities."
You see? I hear that as: How you (White people) choose to define us, doesn't define us, it defines you. And besides, we have other things to worry about.
Lol where the fuck did you get that idea? Idk, maybe greg would just like to learn a ltitle about the cultures of some of his kids parents?
in a class in 2013 im like what did you learn today and she said "we discussed the n word" and im like what the fuck? im aying for this fucking bullshit
Today's mystery.
I mean, I went to school for Electrical engineering, while my wife went to school for Business Management. Back in your day, the girls had to go to women's colleges, people wore suits to go to class, and the blacks were the janitors.
I don't even know where the Indians were. Probably smoking a peace pipe.
76 years old and still a moron. Your colleges sucked.
When the fuck did education become a negative? It's funny, because considering the fact you ostensibly didn't go to college, and couplEd with how stupid your posts are, you're unknowingly a fantastic example of WHY someone should go to college so do they don't the way you do at 76
the babies of today at 23 graduate school with nothing important learned, did you know womens studies is a major? what the fuck can they do with that....keep sending your kids to college thats what they want you to think youre learning something and you're considered "smart!!"
Too funny!
in a class in 2013 im like what did you learn today and she said "we discussed the n word" and im like what the fuck? im aying for this fucking bullshit
That post crossed the stupidity level into possible troll territory. Not sure of he's a real poster
It's a beautiful thing man... a beautiful thing....
Please, no one buys that a slug like yourself actually procreates. You're some lowlife living in mom's basement. The only children you've had were the ones you jerked off into a tissue with.
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Unless you think that this sample size is meaningful, you may want to rethink your conclusion...
If the sample is random, 500 is plenty big enough to draw a rough conclusion.
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That's LESS than one-hundredth of one percent.
Unless you think that this sample size is meaningful, you may want to rethink your conclusion...
If the sample is random, 500 is plenty big enough to draw a rough conclusion.
No; no it's not. Highly unlikely that the sample distribution is the same as the population distribution, namely because they relied on whomever answered the phone. That, by itself, skews randomization, and makes the probability that the distributions converge near 0.
Randomization is necessary, but not sufficient for, a causal interpretation.
I think if they want to fuck his ass they're called homosexuals. NTTIAWWT
I got that feeling too.
Man. I feel almost 76 now....
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Sonic, ignore the braying jackass. All he wants is the attention he isn't getting anywhere else.
I second this statement.
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Renaissance fair. Mostly because I picture the whole country either dressed to the 9s or in a black t-shirt and jeans.
From my admittedly limited experiences with Russian nationals, I picture crew-cut men wearing track suits drinking from morning until whenever they pass out.
That too. It bridges the gap.
So do the Russians do war re-enactments? Are there Russian furries?
I was. A little. Greg did it for me with his mentioning borscht.
And she said, "No. New Jersey Ho."
If indeed he's from Kiev, then he's Ukrainian.
Whaaaaat?!
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RE: 504 people sampled. So, this means pretty much dog squat
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That's LESS than one-hundredth of one percent.
Unless you think that this sample size is meaningful, you may want to rethink your conclusion...
If the sample is random, 500 is plenty big enough to draw a rough conclusion.
No; no it's not. Highly unlikely that the sample distribution is the same as the population distribution, namely because they relied on whomever answered the phone. That, by itself, skews randomization, and makes the probability that the distributions converge near 0.
Randomization is necessary, but not sufficient for, a causal interpretation.
It was also done by telephone (at the bottom of the link provided), maybe Congress was also doing some
fundraising too. Yep, they have to do that these days,
but I am using a sarcasm font, as in joke.
They live in Ukraine, therefore I regard them as Ukrainian (but I get your point). What I'd like to know is how Leon pronounces Kiev.
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In comment 12963712 Greg from LI said:
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Most Indians don't give a shit one way or the other - don't love the name, don't hate it either, don't really care. Many of them roll their eyes at the idea of white people getting bent out of shape about the names of sports teams while ignoring the many very serious problems present in a lot of their communities. There is a small, noisy activist contingent that does care. Few Indians pay them much mind, either.
Again, that's just what I've been told anecdotally by a friend who is full Navajo and lives in New Mexico in a region that is largely Indian.
The way I interpret what your Navajo friend is saying is that most Indians attitude is, essentially: "This is your problem, White people, not ours. You deal with it. And how you choose to deal with it is on you, not on us." In comparison to all of the other fucked up things we've done to Indian people and culture , this one seems trivial to many of them.
But using that piece of information as justification for perpetuating the common usage of a racial slur is also fucked up. In fact, it's an indication of just how deep our fuckeduppedness goes.
And you know what else is fucked up? The very prevalent notion in our society today that morality and ethics should be shaped by polling data.
I 'm curious as to why you feel you have to "interpret" in the worst way possible, what a Navajo has said?
I don't know what you mean by "in the worst way possible". But let me see if I can satisfy your curiosity... I wasn't interpreting what a Navajo said. I was interpreting what his friend said he said about what he thinks most Indians he knows think about the subject. In order for that statement to have any meaning or relevance, I'd say that a fair amount of interpretation is warranted. And the bulk of my interpretation is based on the poster's own words: "Many of them roll their eyes at the idea of white people getting bent out of shape about the names of sports teams while ignoring the many very serious problems present in a lot of their communities."
You see? I hear that as: How you (White people) choose to define us, doesn't define us, it defines you. And besides, we have other things to worry about.
I don't want to split hairs and I don't think I am here. I want you to realize why I asked the question. What you originally said was:
"The way I interpret what your Navajo friend is saying is that most Indians attitude is, essentially: "This is your problem, White people, not ours. You deal with it. And how you choose to deal with it is on you, not on us." In comparison to all of the other fucked up things we've done to Indian people and culture , this one seems trivial to many of them."
Although now you are saying you were interpreting the poster's version of what the Navajo said that's not what you originally wrote.
I asked about you interpreted in "the worst way possible" because your interpretation leads you to conclude that the Navajo indicated that "it's your problem" and 'given how you've screwed us in the past we'll be watching how you handle this.' I don't see anything of the sort.
You say there's a need for interpretation. I say the Navajo's words are crystal clear; both he and his friends just don't care. Yeah he also says they have bigger problems but there's no indication from the poster that the Navajo blames those problems on white people.