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NFT: Phil Mickelson charged with insider trading...

Mike in St. Louis : 5/19/2016 10:32 am
so that's what they talk about as they are walking up to the green...
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Danny Kanell : 5/19/2016 10:34 am : link
Named in a lawsuit, not charged with a crime.
he is named as a defendant  
ron mexico : 5/19/2016 10:37 am : link
Its not like he is just a witness or something.

Not sure why the SEC would be doing civil lawsuits and not inditing on a crime but I'm sure someone here can explain.
RE: he is named as a defendant  
njm : 5/19/2016 10:43 am : link
In comment 12963388 ron mexico said:
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Its not like he is just a witness or something.

Not sure why the SEC would be doing civil lawsuits and not inditing on a crime but I'm sure someone here can explain.


I'm not an expert so this is just a guess, I believe there is a different, lesser standard with respect to scienter and intent in a civil charge than a criminal charge.
Probably one of the most  
section125 : 5/19/2016 10:53 am : link
opinionated "crimes" on record. Insider trading. Blah. You have to wonder how many Wall Street people, company employees and traders commit this crime everyday (plus congressman and state officials.)

Must not be much evidence if they are suing vs charging him with a crime. So we have a money grab by the SEC.
Wasn't this old news?  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/19/2016 10:54 am : link
I vaguely remember hearing about this a year or two ago.
This is a 2 year old investigation  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/19/2016 11:11 am : link
Michelson is not accused of insider trading. He's a "relief defendant". The guy who tipped him is charged with insider trading. The SEC is going after his profits, which were gained due to the insider trading violation by his gambler friend that he got the tip from.
The SEC does not charge with crimes  
Pete in VA : 5/19/2016 11:22 am : link
The SEC only has civil authority. Criminal charges , if appropriate, would be pursued by the Justice Department.

The reason why insider trading is a big deal and not an "SEC money grab" is that when people trade based on an inside advantage they "win", and traders in that stock who do not have an advantage by definition "lose". It's kid of like knowing what the hole card is in a poker game. It's pretty simple if you think about it. You should be glad that the SEC trys to protect the public from insider trading.
Yep  
ctc in ftmyers : 5/19/2016 11:22 am : link
Old news.

My first though when I read the OP was, again?
Mike in St Louis  
johnnyb : 5/19/2016 11:37 am : link
Get the details first dude. 'Charged with' and 'defendant in' are totally different. And, as mentioned, this is old news. Do some work before posting such an irresponsible headline.
It's not really old news  
Pete in VA : 5/19/2016 11:55 am : link
The news previously was that the SEC was looking at his role in the ongoing investigation. Now he has been named in the complaint that was just filed yesterday. As some have pointed out, he was not charged, and he has agreed to repay his $931,000 profit.
Martha Stewart  
eliapple : 5/19/2016 1:10 pm : link
went to jail for lesser of a crime.
RE: Martha Stewart  
njm : 5/19/2016 1:14 pm : link
In comment 12963740 eliapple said:
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went to jail for lesser of a crime.


Perhaps, but perjury IS a crime.
Oh Lord, May 2016  
njm : 5/19/2016 1:16 pm : link
Did I just respond to the latest incarnation of the megatroll?
He has the right friends and is being given a free pass  
arniefez : 5/19/2016 1:16 pm : link
he's very fortunate.
RE: The SEC does not charge with crimes  
section125 : 5/19/2016 1:21 pm : link
In comment 12963492 Pete in VA said:
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The SEC only has civil authority. Criminal charges , if appropriate, would be pursued by the Justice Department.

The reason why insider trading is a big deal and not an "SEC money grab" is that when people trade based on an inside advantage they "win", and traders in that stock who do not have an advantage by definition "lose". It's kid of like knowing what the hole card is in a poker game. It's pretty simple if you think about it. You should be glad that the SEC trys to protect the public from insider trading.


Yes Pete it sounds good on paper, but it is bullshit because they catch very few and if you don't think many people profit from insider info, you are naive - and I don't think you are. I also think big company CEOs manipulate the market to drive prices because they have stock options. If the SEC wants to do away with something that hurts the public, make stock options illegal.
so where does James Dolan fit in?  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2016 1:21 pm : link
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RE: Probably one of the most  
dust_bowl : 5/19/2016 1:24 pm : link
In comment 12963422 section125 said:
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opinionated "crimes" on record. Insider trading. Blah. You have to wonder how many Wall Street people, company employees and traders commit this crime everyday (plus congressman and state officials.)

Must not be much evidence if they are suing vs charging him with a crime. So we have a money grab by the SEC.
a money grab by the sec. What a poorly misinformed individual you are.
RE: so where does James Dolan fit in?  
section125 : 5/19/2016 1:24 pm : link
In comment 12963768 Greg from LI said:
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Between a urinal and a stall in what used to the blue section....
RE: RE: The SEC does not charge with crimes  
njm : 5/19/2016 1:26 pm : link
In comment 12963767 section125 said:
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In comment 12963492 Pete in VA said:


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The SEC only has civil authority. Criminal charges , if appropriate, would be pursued by the Justice Department.

The reason why insider trading is a big deal and not an "SEC money grab" is that when people trade based on an inside advantage they "win", and traders in that stock who do not have an advantage by definition "lose". It's kid of like knowing what the hole card is in a poker game. It's pretty simple if you think about it. You should be glad that the SEC trys to protect the public from insider trading.



Yes Pete it sounds good on paper, but it is bullshit because they catch very few and if you don't think many people profit from insider info, you are naive - and I don't think you are. I also think big company CEOs manipulate the market to drive prices because they have stock options. If the SEC wants to do away with something that hurts the public, make stock options illegal.


SEC with legislative authority (screw the Constitution)? Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Correct me if I'm wrong  
allstarjim : 5/19/2016 10:25 pm : link
but isn't insider trading legal for members of Congress?
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