So, BBB informs us there are 3 pretty big reveals for book readers. Really looking forward to the episode. I have seen no hints so my guesses are probably wildly inaccurate but...
1. We know the white walkers are part of the show so I guess we get confirmation that the head guy is the night's king. Bonus reveal, he was a Stark.
2. There was actually a Northern Conspiracy against the mad king
3. We find out who the son's of the harpy leader is, but for the life of me I can't figure out who it would be based on the show.
Purely guesses based on the HBO preview from last week so these aren't spoilers.
Well, I managed to stay off IMDB for an hour, then caved in.
Not such a big spoiler, really. Joseph Mawle's return to the cast has been in the "It is known" category for some time. The character's name is a slight twist, I guess - it sort of splits the difference in the Benjen vs. Undead Benjen vs. Not Benjen debate.
Pretty fickle and pointless complaining.
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Who is that? I can't make out a person there.
and not sure who you were directing your comment to, but in case it was me, I wasn't criticizing anything really, just commenting, opining, and editorializing, I have very few if any criticisms of this show.
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
To be fair, there's already a wall. So they gotta build something. But, I promise you, nobody makes ships like Euron does. They're gonna be yuuuuge.
Imagine how crazy Bran the Builder sounded when he called on the Northmen to build a wall of ice and stone 700 feet high and 300 miles long? Of course, he never promised to get the Others to pay for it.
BTW, be careful about mentioning candidates by name. Isn't that a bannable offense now?
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how about the Trumpian campaigning of Euron and 'build me 1000 ships!'
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
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how about the Trumpian campaigning of Euron and 'build me 1000 ships!'
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
I didn't even know there were trees on the Iron Islands.
There isn't much. I suspect the showrunners will just gloss over that point. But if they want to lift a bit from the books, Euron's gang could use their remaining ships to start raiding the west coast for what they need. Considering how preoccupied the Lannisters, Tyrells and Freys are with other threats, the pickings should be fairly lush. Again, I doubt the show will invest time in another Ironborn boondoggle, but it would be true to the source material.
He is almost certainly the Elder Brother. Blackfish already has an actor from previous seasons...
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Be the Blackfish? Makes no sense as Manderlay.
He is almost certainly the Elder Brother. Blackfish already has an actor from previous seasons...
Thanks. I'd forgotten that.
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how about the Trumpian campaigning of Euron and 'build me 1000 ships!'
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
I didn't even know there were trees on the Iron Islands.
Pyke version of Monitor and Merrimack?
After I read the books including the first Dunk and Egg novella, I imagined Cersei's Trial would involve a one-on-one fight between her Champion, Robert Strong, and the Faith's Champion, Lancel Lannister. The books haven't demonstrated Robert Strong's power yet. He will slaughter Lancel, of course. I figured Cleganebowl would happen with a classical 7 vs 7 fight, like in the first Dunk and Egg novella. It would be a Cersei vs. Sansa affair, as Cersei believes Sansa killed Joffrey. There will be a struggle to find a 7th Champion for Sansa, then the Hound will arrive smashing through the door on his horse, Stranger, and finally Cleganebowl can begin.
Frankly I never imagined Cleganebowl would happen on the show.
It looks like Jaime Lannister is leading the charge, and it looks like he supported by King's Guard troops? Not the Lannister army and not the Tyrell army.
A few thoughts:
1) Jaime's troops looks like they will get their asses kicked. The battle formation looks quite narrow, and they are only focused on the High Sparrow and his acolytes. However, behind the troops are masses of common folk.
2) However, it seemed that Cersei had persuaded Olenna to get her troops involved since the Lannisters could not.
Does that mean that the Tyrell army will come in behind the masses of common folk?
3) I also recall that "The Rains of Castemere" was playing when Cersei was talking to the small council, so it suggests that someone will get wiped out.
Thoughts?
So annoying. I love talking about and speculating, but people flat spoiling suck.
Well if that's the case, the Tyrell's look like they are going to get their asses kicked.
I'll stop. I was just trying to speculate about the preview.
I'll stop. I was just trying to speculate about the preview.
Don't stop. Speculation is fun. That's what these threads are all about...
"I think the thing that’s kind of fun for George is the idea that he can still have surprises for people even once they’ve watched the show through to the conclusion. There are certain things that are going to happen in the books that are different in the show, and I think people who love the show and want more—want to know more about the characters, want to know more about the different characters who might not have made the cut for the show—will be able to turn to the books.”
I hope its true. Not only will it give me a reason to read the books but it will hopefully right a couple of the things I don't like about the TV series. That said this can all just be BS.
"I think the thing that’s kind of fun for George is the idea that he can still have surprises for people even once they’ve watched the show through to the conclusion. There are certain things that are going to happen in the books that are different in the show, and I think people who love the show and want more—want to know more about the characters, want to know more about the different characters who might not have made the cut for the show—will be able to turn to the books.”
I hope its true. Not only will it give me a reason to read the books but it will hopefully right a couple of the things I don't like about the TV series. That said this can all just be BS.
well we definitely need to know more about the meals, the attire, the sigils, the executions in detail, the show just can't put the effort in that Martin did in the books.
on a side note, between Game of Thrones and Vikings I've been eating more right off a knife. I'll cut some steak or chicken or whatever meat we're having or if I feel like it I just rip it apart with my hands and then stick a knife in it the small pieces and eat it right off the knife.
my wife says it's gross, but good enough for the Vikings and the people of Game of Thrones, good enough for me. I think I'm going to stick with this new habit.
I can't imagine this not beating the author of the work down. Some of these planned out secrets for 20+ years he's not getting to tell first. His own fault, but certainly don't think this would lead to faster writing. Just the opposite probably. I can't see how he finishes it.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I don't mind that either, it did get a little tedious at times like the meal at Joffrey's and Sansa's wedding being described for every category of guest and each course, but I enjoyed it too.
..........Or he's just fat and likes describing food.
..........Or he's just fat and likes describing food.
..........Or he's just fat and likes describing food.
Speaking of GOT food, in addition to eating meat off a knife I've been making a lot of trenchers the past few years. I had scrambled eggs in a trencher this morning.
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Bran Is stuck in the past.
He was there when the Three Eyed Raven died (killed by the White walkers)in the tree. Touching the Warewood tree was his conection to the Raven and the warging seeing though the trees and learning the past.
. Thats why Hodor as Willis saw him in the past. Then Bran Wargs into both Hodors establishing a link to the future and him Holding the Door.
When we see Bran he is still in Warg stag and had to be dragged away. Hodor Dies so Bran feels that and is still stuck in the past. One Hodor dies the other goes conniptions fit.
Bran is still in the past and the only way he has left to get back to this time is to warg into someone from that time that is still around? This is Where Benjen Stark comes into play. Its Brans only way back. Benjen has to reappear or Bran is fucked.
None of this is in the books just me thinking out loud.
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That's kinda my thought process as well. Once the show ends and there's no more GoT on screen, many will get the itch back. I slowly read the 5 books from 2011-2015 and once I finished I just wanted more. Even knowing the ending probably won't dissuade me from going on another 3,000 page alternate journey.
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the TV series is completed - otherwise you will be too anxious for resolution to read the story as it unfolds. Once you know how it ends, you'll appreciate the richer detail the books can provide.
That's kinda my thought process as well. Once the show ends and there's no more GoT on screen, many will get the itch back. I slowly read the 5 books from 2011-2015 and once I finished I just wanted more. Even knowing the ending probably won't dissuade me from going on another 3,000 page alternate journey.
I hope so, though at this rate I'm not expecting a completion to the series until after 2020.