So, BBB informs us there are 3 pretty big reveals for book readers. Really looking forward to the episode. I have seen no hints so my guesses are probably wildly inaccurate but...
1. We know the white walkers are part of the show so I guess we get confirmation that the head guy is the night's king. Bonus reveal, he was a Stark.
2. There was actually a Northern Conspiracy against the mad king
3. We find out who the son's of the harpy leader is, but for the life of me I can't figure out who it would be based on the show.
Purely guesses based on the HBO preview from last week so these aren't spoilers.
Okay. I'll just post the link. Even if it says spoilers on the thread, I want people to have a second chance to turn away.
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Yeah Andy.
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Yeah Andy.
Fuckin Canadjiens..
Absolutely.
Nymeria best show up and wreck shit at some point.
Nymeria best show up and wreck shit at some point.
A Nymeria/Ghost reunion as they corner Ramsay? Sign me up!
Mad King heard Voices.
When you think about all the pointless red herrings he created to cover his tracks, you can begin to understand why he lost his interest in writing them. I mean, who gives a shit about Victarion or Jon Connington or Quentyn Martell when they play no role in the real story?
Why did Sansa lie to Jon?
What was Littlefinger trying to imply by "reminding" Sansa that Jon is her half brother? At first you wouldmthinkmthere as additional conversation between the two that we didn't see but that doesn't explain why Brienne is in the dark about the lie.
It all leaves me wondering how much Sansa really has (or hasn't) changed from the spoiled, Jon hating brat of a child she was. Or I'm completely wrong and it's for some selfless reason, perhaps something to protect Jon? Totally lost on that but very interested
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Incredible reveal, but wait a second...Martin has had this much of the story fleshed out from day 1 and he can't finish these last 2 books? WTF man...
When you think about all the pointless red herrings he created to cover his tracks, you can begin to understand why he lost his interest in writing them. I mean, who gives a shit about Victarion or Jon Connington or Quentyn Martell when they play no role in the real story?
Yeah, great point and it's kind of becoming frustrating now, all the time and pages wasted on people and events that will lead to nothing. It's pretty obvious "Young Griff" isn't Aegon, Connington means nothing, and it was all just an attempt at keeping Tyrion's pilgrimage east interesting. And a failed one at that.
mainly because they hate the Lannisters. otherwise not much, but revenge is a good motivator and it could come down to Dorne picking sides.
I think Sansa lied about the Raven because maybe she didn't think Jon would trust Littlefinger's information.
I think he mentioned "half-brother" because you know Littlefinger, he's a motivator, he probably feels like Jon Snow from Castle Black isn't going to galvinize the north, but Sansa Stark, bearing the Stark name, might be able to.
just my opinions about those things, I'll have to read blogs to figure out what I just saw. LOL.
ToJ reveal is most likely in S6 E10, per a pretty well-documented slip by the actor who plays Young Ned. The other possibility is that ToJ comes sooner, and there's another Young Ned reveal in E10 - Sunspear/Ashara? Harrenhal? Ned's Temptation after Aerys's death? I think ToJ is a big enough event to wrap that plot line for the season.
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and all things Dorne. I can't think of a single reason why the entire region is relevant.
mainly because they hate the Lannisters. otherwise not much, but revenge is a good motivator and it could come down to Dorne picking sides.
I think Sansa lied about the Raven because maybe she didn't think Jon would trust Littlefinger's information.
I think he mentioned "half-brother" because you know Littlefinger, he's a motivator, he probably feels like Jon Snow from Castle Black isn't going to galvinize the north, but Sansa Stark, bearing the Stark name, might be able to.
just my opinions about those things, I'll have to read blogs to figure out what I just saw. LOL.
Some people picked up on it, poijt d out that Sansa was very specific in choosing her words when talking with Littlefinger, and was implying that she's got a flayed bun in her oven.
Why did Sansa lie to Jon?
What was Littlefinger trying to imply by "reminding" Sansa that Jon is her half brother? At first you wouldmthinkmthere as additional conversation between the two that we didn't see but that doesn't explain why Brienne is in the dark about the lie.
It all leaves me wondering how much Sansa really has (or hasn't) changed from the spoiled, Jon hating brat of a child she was. Or I'm completely wrong and it's for some selfless reason, perhaps something to protect Jon? Totally lost on that but very interested
My first thoughts are that she lied to Jon because if Davos, Tormund and Jon learn of Littlefinger and his Vale army, and his willingness to join up, they would bring Littlefinger into this now, while Sansa still hates the man.
I think Littlefinger dropped the half-brother thing presumably because he knows how Cat felt about Jon. Sansa is her mother's daughter and took after Cat in her treatment of Jon somewhat. I remember she was not hateful but rather dismissive of him. So in one swoop, Littlefinger gave Sansa hope by informing her of her Uncle Bryden's success at Riverrun, and he also plants the seeds of doubt over Jon. Sansa is the rightful Queen of Winterfell, however Davos and the like keep talking about an army to follow Jon.
Or maybe just flayed buns.
Wonder if that's any kinda foreshadowing about the Bolton's based on what we suspect as given about Jon...
I absolutely believe Robb legitimized Jon in his will, but I have a hard time believing the other houses, particularly the Karstarks, have imbedded themselves with the Boltons for the purpose of naming Jon King in the North. But who the hell knows at this point. It's been a wild, wild season...
I want to see Lord Too-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse. That Frey Pies thing really stuck with me. And I want this guy to play him.
Look at all those chins.
"We had this meeting with George Martin where we're trying to get as much information as possible out of him, and probably the most shocking revelation he had for us was when he told us the origin of Hodor and how that name came about," said Benioff. "I just remember Dan and I looking at each other when he said that and just being like, 'Holy s--t.'"
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Meribald would be a waste for the guy who played Al Swearengen. Randyll Tarly could be a fit, but McShane would still be way overkill for the role the character has in the book. I mean, couldn't they find anyone to be an angry prick who hates his fat son?
And pussy's half price, next 15 minutes!
Yeah - unless he's messing with book readers in a pretty elaborate way, he's Meribald and his main function is to set up CleganeBowl.
In turn, that suggests that either Cersei will have a trial (by combat, with the undead brothers as champions) or the undead Hound will confront the undead Mountain in the context of a bigger battle. The first scenario has been popular with readers and viewers for years, but the second is starting to look plausible.
Things are lining up for the Knights of the Vale to save Sansa's bacon, even after she rejected their help because of a previous betrayal.
1 - origin of WW
2 - Hodor
3 - ...?
Like, why not go back and do something useful ? Stop the children of the forest from creating the white walkers maybe? Stop Ned from being killed? Nah I got it...lets go back and make Wylis special-needs!
It's just kinda weak. Maybe ties into the new red priestesses "everything happens for a reason" speech, but I dunno. Don't like it, so far.
Another gripe - there were about 20 dragonglass spears leaning against the cave entrance wall, why not use more of those i.e. take a shot or 5 at the Night's King with em....nah lets just self-detonate our nature-bombs while we suicide by wight squad.
People seem to be loving this scene / episode, but I thought it was weak and frustrating in practically every story arc shown, and a step back from what has otherwise been a very cool and rewarding season.
I am using the term loosely but the show is using it to tell viewers some vital information and we are also led to believe that Bran has only begun to tap into his power.
We used to learn a ton of information by scenes featuring exquisite dialogue between people like Littlefinger, Varys, Tryion, etc. We've gotten far less of that as of late.
Yeah, "mostly an observer" is probably more accurate. In the ToJ scene he yelled to his Dad and stopped in his tracks like he heard it. There's obviously more stuff like that in the books. But it's not really time travelling either.
It's more like the end of Interstellar, but without infinite bookcases and Matthew McConnaughey. Time loses it's fixed linear direction and Bran can mostly go watch what's up. So far he hasn't learned how to do much but make whispers and rustling leaves. Perhaps there will be a lot more he can do in the future.
In hindsight, the Ned TOJ scene foreshadows the HODOR scene. Taking a leap here but the difference is Bran can warg HODOR, different connection. Plus they are together at the same time in both time periods.
Another gripe - there were about 20 dragonglass spears leaning against the cave entrance wall, why not use more of those i.e. take a shot or 5 at the Night's King with em....nah lets just self-detonate our nature-bombs while we suicide by wight squad.
People seem to be loving this scene / episode, but I thought it was weak and frustrating in practically every story arc shown, and a step back from what has otherwise been a very cool and rewarding season.
Seems like it's set up perfectly for Cold Hands.
Seems much more likely that he's Coldhands, but that might be too simple and obvious for Martin's twisted mind.
1 - origin of WW
2 - Hodor
3 - ...?
Depends on how you count. The three I heard about included those two, plus the present altering the past, which had been lightly hinted - but not shown - at the ToJ. I guess you could say that's the same as #2, since Hodor's condition was caused by past and present intertwining.
I hadn't seen the leaked episode, just a general description of the "Aha!" moments for book-geeks.
Advocates of certain ToJ theories also seem to think it's a big deal that Meera is now the Last Man Standing north of the Wall. I dunno. Season 6 has brought several bad-ass chicks to the fore. They can't all be Jon Snow's sister, or the Twin that was promised, or the Third Head of the Dragon, or whatever.
Personally, I'm eager to get back to King's Landing. Even if the whole Lannister/Tyrell/Faith Militant confrontation is a futile sideshow before Winter comes, it's definitely where the best action (and acting) is.
Last week was a treasure trove: Margaery and the High Sparrow, Margaery and Loras, Tommen and the High Sparrow, Tommen and Cersei, Cersei and the Small Council. Of course, it was all largely overshadowed at the end by an implausible pig-roast and Emilia Clarke's boobs. And this week was The Walking Dead meets live-action Punch and Judy.
Next week, we can look forward to a lot of fun in King's Landing. Plus, the new Red Priestess might reinvigorate the bromance in Meereen. The Varys-Tyrion chemistry was getting a bit stale.
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We used to learn a ton of information by scenes featuring exquisite dialogue between people like Littlefinger, Varys, Tryion, etc. We've gotten far less of that as of late.
Last week was a treasure trove: Margaery and the High Sparrow, Margaery and Loras, Tommen and the High Sparrow, Tommen and Cersei, Cersei and the Small Council. Of course, it was all largely overshadowed at the end by an implausible pig-roast and Emilia Clarke's boobs. And this week was The Walking Dead meets live-action Punch and Judy.
Next week, we can look forward to a lot of fun in King's Landing. Plus, the new Red Priestess might reinvigorate the bromance in Meereen. The Varys-Tyrion chemistry was getting a bit stale.
Yeah, the stuff north of the wall is starting to runs its course which I didn't think i'd ever say. Definitely more interested in everything else which wasn't the case just 2 weeks ago.
Like, why not go back and do something useful ? Stop the children of the forest from creating the white walkers maybe? Stop Ned from being killed? Nah I got it...lets go back and make Wylis special-needs!
It's just kinda weak. Maybe ties into the new red priestesses "everything happens for a reason" speech, but I dunno. Don't like it, so far.
See I took what happened to Wylis as 3-Eyed Crow trying to show Bran how disastrous be able to interact with someone from the past can be. Bran was nearly crying when he realized what was happening to Hodor. Like he was thinking, "I did this!?" I don't think he will try to change the past anytime soon.
A second possibility is that if 3-Eyed did this only to make Wylis into s "special needs," he did it because fate needs Hodor to carry Bran all the way to the cave, and to finally hold the door against the Others to save Bran.
Saving Ned probably prevents the Starks from being deposed and destroyed, but it also would prevent Bran from making this journey to meet 3-Eyed. If Bran goes back to the past and tells himself "don't climb to that window," he never gets tossed out by Jaime, and he makes that trip to King's Landing.
Ha, I feel like they're just getting started. Benjen is a good guess to be Bran and Meera's bailout, but in light of the Wildling army, the Night's King and the undead...what would keep Benjen from returning to warn everyone all this time? He had bigger fish to fry but what?
Coldhands theory is gaining steam, but I thought there was enough in the books to make that unlikely. It would also be somewhat cheap imo that a five season wait end in undead Benjen riding a moose and serving as an escort.
We're seeing Bran's immense power but I'm interested to see how and why he uses it. So he's likely going to find out his Aunt gave birth to a Targaryen heir. Aside from telling Jon when he's finished, uh, surviving, what does he do with that information?
2. Hmmm... that pretty much takes care of it.
Why doesn't he go back to when Ned was beheaded and someone change that.
Once you have a power like this it becomes a little convenient to me about how/when it gets used.
I know it's a fantasy/adventure story and obviously not real, but I also like some level of reality in my stories where people can warg into other beings go back in time and impact the people they see in those episodes.
So one of two things is going to happen: Either Arya successfully fools Jaqen into thinking she really believes she's "no one," or she leaves the service of the many faced god and strikes out on her own, unleashing her vengeance.
So one of two things is going to happen: Either Arya successfully fools Jaqen into thinking she really believes she's "no one," or she leaves the service of the many faced god and strikes out on her own, unleashing her vengeance.
Hopefully meeting back up with Nymeria along the way..
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being a complete waste of screen time, I hugely disagree. What we saw during the play segment was that Arya will never become "no one." Despite everything she does, she can't shake her past. She can't stop being Arya Stark. She has too much hate in her, and she's too vengeful.
So one of two things is going to happen: Either Arya successfully fools Jaqen into thinking she really believes she's "no one," or she leaves the service of the many faced god and strikes out on her own, unleashing her vengeance.
Hopefully meeting back up with Nymeria along the way..
It's just Ghost and Nymeria left, right? Assuming that was really shaggydog in two weeks ago's episode.
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Assuming Summer and Shaggydog are both truly dead (I think they are), yes.
I think it makes a lot of sense. Benjen is someone that resonates a lot more with book readers than show people, but I think it will come back to him.
And I would advise anyone to not look at IMDB cast credits...
Two, Bran is the Night's King as an adult because armed with the knowledge that the Children of the Forest created the White Walkers, adult Bran tries to stop everything as the NK before they kill everyone, or something. Neither of these theories out there on the internet today make much sense to me personally, but I have no idea anymore now that we've gone down the time travel paradox road.
Two, Bran is the Night's King as an adult because armed with the knowledge that the Children of the Forest created the White Walkers, adult Bran tries to stop everything as the NK before they kill everyone, or something. Neither of these theories out there on the internet today make much sense to me personally, but I have no idea anymore now that we've gone down the time travel paradox road.
I don't really care for either of those, especially the second one.
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do you think Coldhands will end up being Benjen? It would be cool to see Coldhands and Bran will need someone other than Meera to escort him to wherever he goes next.
I think it makes a lot of sense. Benjen is someone that resonates a lot more with book readers than show people, but I think it will come back to him.
And I would advise anyone to not look at IMDB cast credits...
Martin has said Coldhands is not Benjen Stark, though the show might take different liberties.
Robin is in charge, but he's living under the tutelage of Lord Royce and being controlled by Littlefinger.
Whatever you do, don't think of an elephant.
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I see two schools of thought out there today. Some people out there thinking, this was Bran's death scene (even if it really wasn't in present time). Meaning he's the old three-eyed raven training his younger self. In other words Max von Sydow played older adult Bran and this was it.
Two, Bran is the Night's King as an adult because armed with the knowledge that the Children of the Forest created the White Walkers, adult Bran tries to stop everything as the NK before they kill everyone, or something. Neither of these theories out there on the internet today make much sense to me personally, but I have no idea anymore now that we've gone down the time travel paradox road.
I don't really care for either of those, especially the second one.
I don't either. But I saw a post on another site today that reminded me in show Jojen Reed's introduction, Bran is trying to hit the three-eyed raven with an arrow and Jojen tells him "You can't kill it you know. Because the raven is you." In my opinion that's pretty compelling and seems difficult to explain away.
Why doesn't he go back to when Ned was beheaded and someone change that.
Once you have a power like this it becomes a little convenient to me about how/when it gets used.
I know it's a fantasy/adventure story and obviously not real, but I also like some level of reality in my stories where people can warg into other beings go back in time and impact the people they see in those episodes.
Well, first there is the whole paradox issue, if he did either of those things, then its likely he wouldn't have gone north of the wall in the first place. Which means he couldn't have fixed those issues...
The other thing (for the first question) is that I don't think Bran has seen his own past before has he? It is possible that he can't go back to where he was before.
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touch a tree and go back to when Jamie pushes him out the window and change that action?
Why doesn't he go back to when Ned was beheaded and someone change that.
Once you have a power like this it becomes a little convenient to me about how/when it gets used.
I know it's a fantasy/adventure story and obviously not real, but I also like some level of reality in my stories where people can warg into other beings go back in time and impact the people they see in those episodes.
Well, first there is the whole paradox issue, if he did either of those things, then its likely he wouldn't have gone north of the wall in the first place. Which means he couldn't have fixed those issues...
The other thing (for the first question) is that I don't think Bran has seen his own past before has he? It is possible that he can't go back to where he was before.
He wasn't in the yard at Wintefell with Hodor training with him or when he had the seizure? Hard to tell if young Bran was in any of the "flashbacks". I guess Hodor is a lot older than Bran so it wouldn't fit.
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touch a tree and go back to when Jamie pushes him out the window and change that action?
Why doesn't he go back to when Ned was beheaded and someone change that.
Once you have a power like this it becomes a little convenient to me about how/when it gets used.
I know it's a fantasy/adventure story and obviously not real, but I also like some level of reality in my stories where people can warg into other beings go back in time and impact the people they see in those episodes.
Well, first there is the whole paradox issue, if he did either of those things, then its likely he wouldn't have gone north of the wall in the first place. Which means he couldn't have fixed those issues...
The other thing (for the first question) is that I don't think Bran has seen his own past before has he? It is possible that he can't go back to where he was before.
He wasn't in the yard at Wintefell with Hodor training with him or when he had the seizure? Hard to tell if young Bran was in any of the "flashbacks". I guess Hodor is a lot older than Bran so it wouldn't fit.
Those flashbacks are from when Ned was a kid, so Bran can't have been there.
anyway, if the old guy is really Bran, no reason he can't go back in time to see himself younger, unless of course the writers say he can't. LOL.
All this talk of "time travel" is really misleading since technically he hasn't physically gone anywhere. I suppose he could develop some of those abilities in the future (although that would be really hokey and lame), but what evidence is there at this point to support any of it?
Intentional or coincidence?
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2. Hmmm... that pretty much takes care of it.
Was Bran whispering to the Mad King?
Is he responsible for the King going Mad!
Is the Raven Bran being used by the Children to destroy the kingdom?
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1. Tell Prince Rhaegar to give the damned flowers to his wife and leave Aunt Lyanna alone.
2. Hmmm... that pretty much takes care of it.
Was Bran whispering to the Mad King?
Is he responsible for the King going Mad!
Is the Raven Bran being used by the Children to destroy the kingdom?
Go back even further. Raven Bran tells the first Andals that came to westeros "Hey those Children of the Forest are going to create something that kills everyone, so go kick their ass". Which then of course causes the children of the forest to create the White Walkers to protect themselves....
Well, I managed to stay off IMDB for an hour, then caved in.
Not such a big spoiler, really. Joseph Mawle's return to the cast has been in the "It is known" category for some time. The character's name is a slight twist, I guess - it sort of splits the difference in the Benjen vs. Undead Benjen vs. Not Benjen debate.
Pretty fickle and pointless complaining.
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Who is that? I can't make out a person there.
and not sure who you were directing your comment to, but in case it was me, I wasn't criticizing anything really, just commenting, opining, and editorializing, I have very few if any criticisms of this show.
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
To be fair, there's already a wall. So they gotta build something. But, I promise you, nobody makes ships like Euron does. They're gonna be yuuuuge.
Imagine how crazy Bran the Builder sounded when he called on the Northmen to build a wall of ice and stone 700 feet high and 300 miles long? Of course, he never promised to get the Others to pay for it.
BTW, be careful about mentioning candidates by name. Isn't that a bannable offense now?
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how about the Trumpian campaigning of Euron and 'build me 1000 ships!'
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
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how about the Trumpian campaigning of Euron and 'build me 1000 ships!'
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
I didn't even know there were trees on the Iron Islands.
There isn't much. I suspect the showrunners will just gloss over that point. But if they want to lift a bit from the books, Euron's gang could use their remaining ships to start raiding the west coast for what they need. Considering how preoccupied the Lannisters, Tyrells and Freys are with other threats, the pickings should be fairly lush. Again, I doubt the show will invest time in another Ironborn boondoggle, but it would be true to the source material.
He is almost certainly the Elder Brother. Blackfish already has an actor from previous seasons...
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Be the Blackfish? Makes no sense as Manderlay.
He is almost certainly the Elder Brother. Blackfish already has an actor from previous seasons...
Thanks. I'd forgotten that.
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how about the Trumpian campaigning of Euron and 'build me 1000 ships!'
and there was like 20 people there. were they like delegates? I saw no way that many people were making 1000 ships in less than 10 years and thousands of trees. But I have no clue how long it takes to make a boat or how many trees.
I didn't even know there were trees on the Iron Islands.
Pyke version of Monitor and Merrimack?
After I read the books including the first Dunk and Egg novella, I imagined Cersei's Trial would involve a one-on-one fight between her Champion, Robert Strong, and the Faith's Champion, Lancel Lannister. The books haven't demonstrated Robert Strong's power yet. He will slaughter Lancel, of course. I figured Cleganebowl would happen with a classical 7 vs 7 fight, like in the first Dunk and Egg novella. It would be a Cersei vs. Sansa affair, as Cersei believes Sansa killed Joffrey. There will be a struggle to find a 7th Champion for Sansa, then the Hound will arrive smashing through the door on his horse, Stranger, and finally Cleganebowl can begin.
Frankly I never imagined Cleganebowl would happen on the show.
It looks like Jaime Lannister is leading the charge, and it looks like he supported by King's Guard troops? Not the Lannister army and not the Tyrell army.
A few thoughts:
1) Jaime's troops looks like they will get their asses kicked. The battle formation looks quite narrow, and they are only focused on the High Sparrow and his acolytes. However, behind the troops are masses of common folk.
2) However, it seemed that Cersei had persuaded Olenna to get her troops involved since the Lannisters could not.
Does that mean that the Tyrell army will come in behind the masses of common folk?
3) I also recall that "The Rains of Castemere" was playing when Cersei was talking to the small council, so it suggests that someone will get wiped out.
Thoughts?
So annoying. I love talking about and speculating, but people flat spoiling suck.
Well if that's the case, the Tyrell's look like they are going to get their asses kicked.
I'll stop. I was just trying to speculate about the preview.
I'll stop. I was just trying to speculate about the preview.
Don't stop. Speculation is fun. That's what these threads are all about...
"I think the thing that’s kind of fun for George is the idea that he can still have surprises for people even once they’ve watched the show through to the conclusion. There are certain things that are going to happen in the books that are different in the show, and I think people who love the show and want more—want to know more about the characters, want to know more about the different characters who might not have made the cut for the show—will be able to turn to the books.”
I hope its true. Not only will it give me a reason to read the books but it will hopefully right a couple of the things I don't like about the TV series. That said this can all just be BS.
"I think the thing that’s kind of fun for George is the idea that he can still have surprises for people even once they’ve watched the show through to the conclusion. There are certain things that are going to happen in the books that are different in the show, and I think people who love the show and want more—want to know more about the characters, want to know more about the different characters who might not have made the cut for the show—will be able to turn to the books.”
I hope its true. Not only will it give me a reason to read the books but it will hopefully right a couple of the things I don't like about the TV series. That said this can all just be BS.
well we definitely need to know more about the meals, the attire, the sigils, the executions in detail, the show just can't put the effort in that Martin did in the books.
on a side note, between Game of Thrones and Vikings I've been eating more right off a knife. I'll cut some steak or chicken or whatever meat we're having or if I feel like it I just rip it apart with my hands and then stick a knife in it the small pieces and eat it right off the knife.
my wife says it's gross, but good enough for the Vikings and the people of Game of Thrones, good enough for me. I think I'm going to stick with this new habit.
I can't imagine this not beating the author of the work down. Some of these planned out secrets for 20+ years he's not getting to tell first. His own fault, but certainly don't think this would lead to faster writing. Just the opposite probably. I can't see how he finishes it.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I don't mind that either, it did get a little tedious at times like the meal at Joffrey's and Sansa's wedding being described for every category of guest and each course, but I enjoyed it too.
..........Or he's just fat and likes describing food.
..........Or he's just fat and likes describing food.
..........Or he's just fat and likes describing food.
Speaking of GOT food, in addition to eating meat off a knife I've been making a lot of trenchers the past few years. I had scrambled eggs in a trencher this morning.
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Bran Is stuck in the past.
He was there when the Three Eyed Raven died (killed by the White walkers)in the tree. Touching the Warewood tree was his conection to the Raven and the warging seeing though the trees and learning the past.
. Thats why Hodor as Willis saw him in the past. Then Bran Wargs into both Hodors establishing a link to the future and him Holding the Door.
When we see Bran he is still in Warg stag and had to be dragged away. Hodor Dies so Bran feels that and is still stuck in the past. One Hodor dies the other goes conniptions fit.
Bran is still in the past and the only way he has left to get back to this time is to warg into someone from that time that is still around? This is Where Benjen Stark comes into play. Its Brans only way back. Benjen has to reappear or Bran is fucked.
None of this is in the books just me thinking out loud.
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That's kinda my thought process as well. Once the show ends and there's no more GoT on screen, many will get the itch back. I slowly read the 5 books from 2011-2015 and once I finished I just wanted more. Even knowing the ending probably won't dissuade me from going on another 3,000 page alternate journey.
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the TV series is completed - otherwise you will be too anxious for resolution to read the story as it unfolds. Once you know how it ends, you'll appreciate the richer detail the books can provide.
That's kinda my thought process as well. Once the show ends and there's no more GoT on screen, many will get the itch back. I slowly read the 5 books from 2011-2015 and once I finished I just wanted more. Even knowing the ending probably won't dissuade me from going on another 3,000 page alternate journey.
I hope so, though at this rate I'm not expecting a completion to the series until after 2020.