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ZGiants98 : 5/22/2016 8:40 pm
Supposed to be a revealing episode! Let's do this!
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RE: Coldhands???????  
Chris in Philly : 5/23/2016 7:26 pm : link
In comment 12968495 5BowlsSoon said:
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I keep reading of people talking about this dude, and as far as I know, I've never heard of him. So, does this mean, the only people who know about some dude named Coldhands are ONLY people who have read the book?

Makes it hard to communicate about the show when people who have read the book chime in.


Where are you seeing that name mentioned on this thread?
Now we get shit on for talking about stuff in the book thread?  
Andy in Halifax : 5/23/2016 7:29 pm : link
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This episode was directed by Jack Bender  
Canton : 5/23/2016 7:34 pm : link
Who also directed dozens of episodes of the mess-with-your-mind fest "Lost"

I didn't have any problem with the hodor time travel stuff  
Andy in Halifax : 5/23/2016 8:04 pm : link
I think Bran's ability to affect the past is very limited - faint whispers which seems to be what Ned heard at the TOJ.

Hodor seeing him is different imo because Bran was possessing him in the present so I think that is what connected the two times. As long as Bran doesn't Warg anyone and then see them in the past, his influence will be limited to whispers. At least, that's how I read it.

and by "read it", I mean interpret the show. Not anything I read in a book so calm down everyone.
Hodor  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2016 8:11 pm : link
So, Wiilys as a kid became Hodor at that moment in the past. So, Willys became Hodor thanks to Bran, otherwise Willys would have had a normal life.
That's the gist of it,  
Andy in Halifax : 5/23/2016 8:14 pm : link
yes.
Sansa  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2016 8:17 pm : link
I'm sure I'm not alone here, but if she didn't want to take Little fingers offer of his army, then she should have had Brienne off his head for what he did to her.
Sansa isn't a killer  
eclipz928 : 5/23/2016 9:02 pm : link
that's why Little Finger so confidently was able to say that he'd be willing to die if that's what she wanted - he understands that it's not in her nature to be that ruthless, even after what she's been through.

I found it interesting how Little Finger planted that seed in Sansa's head about finding people who are loyal to her - making sure to emphasize that Jon Snow is only a half brother. Sounds like he's angling to have Sansa turn on Jon Snow at some point - perhaps after Bolton's army is defeated.
White Walkers  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2016 9:16 pm : link
One final thought for the night.....
It seems to me now there are only 3 WWs left, and it seems pretty easy to kill them with that special sword.

Sooooooo, why not kill those 3? chances are the walking dead that follow them will return to the earth. Problem solved! Agree or not?
RE: White Walkers  
Bill L : 5/23/2016 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12968655 5BowlsSoon said:
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One final thought for the night.....
It seems to me now there are only 3 WWs left, and it seems pretty easy to kill them with that special sword.

Sooooooo, why not kill those 3? chances are the walking dead that follow them will return to the earth. Problem solved! Agree or not?
most cogent post of the day (not sure which thread) was why not use all the dragon glass lances on the WW in the cave. Surely the children of the corn knew their vulnerabilities considering that they made them and all. All the co ponents were in place to end the series last night.
Just saw it  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/24/2016 12:34 am : link
Well, damn. I said on the last thread that I wanted there to be a twist with Hodor since everything was pointing to "kicked by horse".

Never expected that to be the twist. Heartbreaking and powerful. One of the better final scenes in this shows history imo, although there are a lot to choose from.

Felt like a slow set-up episode then boom, great ending. This show is just on fire right now as far as I'm concerned.

The sexy new red priestess vs. Varys was a cool scene. We've seen Varys look shook before, but never like that.

Tormund stole the episode without saying a word. His interactions with Brienne have been fun to watch.
I actually was disappointed in the Hodor reveal  
Bill L : 5/24/2016 8:26 am : link
although maybe there is more to it than I think... but superficially, that's a lot of effort and life-changing to end up merely blocking a door that he likely would have blocked regardless. Yeah I get that it's the last thing he will likely ever do, but my first thought on the reveal was "that's it???".
RE: I actually was disappointed in the Hodor reveal  
Chris in Philly : 5/24/2016 8:35 am : link
In comment 12968947 Bill L said:
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although maybe there is more to it than I think... but superficially, that's a lot of effort and life-changing to end up merely blocking a door that he likely would have blocked regardless. Yeah I get that it's the last thing he will likely ever do, but my first thought on the reveal was "that's it???".


I disagree very strongly. They have shown over and over and over across 6 seasons that Hodor is paralyzed by fear in dangerous situations. Can't contain his panic. He wouldn't just block the door for the hell of it. He wouldn't think "Hey I know, I'll go save Bran!"
anyone talk about the really hot  
UConn4523 : 5/24/2016 8:39 am : link
play version of Sansa? If not, have at it...
RE: anyone talk about the really hot  
Chris in Philly : 5/24/2016 8:41 am : link
In comment 12968963 UConn4523 said:
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play version of Sansa? If not, have at it...


Solid episode on that front. The red priestess called for a Google invstigation as well.
RE: RE: anyone talk about the really hot  
spike : 5/24/2016 9:28 am : link
In comment 12968967 Chris in Philly said:
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play version of Sansa? If not, have at it...



Solid episode on that front. The red priestess called for a Google invstigation as well.


If only this red priestess had been casted as the original red priestess....
One of the hallmarks of A Song of Ice and Fire...  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/24/2016 9:36 am : link
...has been ignominious deaths for noble characters. Hodor is one of the few to die nobly, joining other humble players like Syrio, Yoren and Jojen, who also gave their lives protecting a wolf pup. Tying the end to his one-word vocabulary was a bittersweet bonus. I give Hodor's death a big thumbs-up, although the zombie apocalypse aspect is a bit cheesy.
the guy who played Ned in that play  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/24/2016 9:44 am : link
was great. And yea, that version of Sansa was tremendous.

Sam, Jon Snow, Meera... are those the only ones to kill a Wight at this point? What a trio. The savior of the realm + a chubby loser and a middle school aged girl.
RE: RE: RE: anyone talk about the really hot  
Chris in Philly : 5/24/2016 9:46 am : link
In comment 12969022 spike said:
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In comment 12968963 UConn4523 said:


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play version of Sansa? If not, have at it...



Solid episode on that front. The red priestess called for a Google invstigation as well.



If only this red priestess had been casted as the original red priestess....


They're both hot.
Hodor went out like a badass, but it sucked it was to save  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2016 9:47 am : link
A garbage piece of shit like Bran.

Bran pretty much got everyone good killed.
And just like Melisandre, I'm sure she's even hotter  
Giantology : 5/24/2016 9:48 am : link
without the necklace/gem.
I confused  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/24/2016 9:49 am : link
Wights with the Others.

One last point on Hodor. I liked how Lyanna was nice to him. That "flashback" scene was mostly about Hodor, but Lyanna's presence was the next most important thing. Benjen after that.
I hope  
spike : 5/24/2016 9:52 am : link
we see what happened to Benjen...

I predict we see  
Giantology : 5/24/2016 9:52 am : link
Benjen next week.
RE: Hodor went out like a badass, but it sucked it was to save  
Deej : 5/24/2016 10:08 am : link
In comment 12969066 BrettNYG10 said:
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A garbage piece of shit like Bran.

Bran pretty much got everyone good killed.


And he's named after something old people eat to clean the shit out of their systems. Yuck.
Brett was a big Jojen fan?  
Andy in Halifax : 5/24/2016 10:24 am : link
?
RE: RE: Hodor went out like a badass, but it sucked it was to save  
Shadow : 5/24/2016 10:29 am : link
In comment 12969127 Deej said:
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A garbage piece of shit like Bran.

Bran pretty much got everyone good killed.



And he's named after something old people eat to clean the shit out of their systems. Yuck.

Never eating Raisin Bran again!
RE: Brett was a big Jojen fan?  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/24/2016 11:14 am : link
Andy in Halifax said:
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?

So are a lot of 'tween girls. If Thomas Brodie-Sangster hadn't bought the farm outside that cave, I might have been able to get my daughters to watch the show with me. They've been monitoring his career with keen interest since Love Actually and Nanny McPhee.
I think it would make a lot of sense  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2016 11:21 am : link
for Benjen to save Bran in the woods wherever they are running north of the wall. He should still be in that area somewhere.
Jojen had it coming.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/24/2016 11:25 am : link
If Bran didn't climb maybe everyone in his family is alive. He sucks.
RE: Jojen had it coming.  
Shadow : 5/24/2016 11:39 am : link
In comment 12969278 BrettNYG10 said:
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If Bran didn't climb maybe everyone in his family is alive. He sucks.

Nope Ned Was still going to Kings Landing to be the Kings Hand.
Still would find out about Jon Ayrins murder. Same fate only Bran would lose his head too.
It's so long ago I cannot remember,  
Andy in Halifax : 5/24/2016 11:45 am : link
does Bran recall what he saw in the tower? Or does he not remember?
I think it's a fair assumption that there's more to Meera than meets  
Nitro : 5/24/2016 12:10 pm : link
the eye, especially considering her father was the one who save's Ned's life.
Careful, Nitro.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/24/2016 1:03 pm : link
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I think it's a fair assumption that there's more to Meera than meets the eye, especially considering her father was the one who saved Ned's life.

The Spoiler Police have their tasers charged and ready.

I'm content to think of Meera as the Bad-Ass Chick North of the Wall. Girl Power seems to be the over-arching theme of Season Six, with powerful women asserting themselves all over the map. Why should the Land of Always Winter be an exception?
RE: I think it's a fair assumption that there's more to Meera than meets  
Shadow : 5/24/2016 1:05 pm : link
In comment 12969347 Nitro said:
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the eye, especially considering her father was the one who save's Ned's life.

And it would appear that Cersi is pissed off.
RE: One of the hallmarks of A Song of Ice and Fire...  
schabadoo : 5/24/2016 1:24 pm : link
In comment 12969035 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...has been ignominious deaths for noble characters. Hodor is one of the few to die nobly, joining other humble players like Syrio, Yoren and Jojen, who also gave their lives protecting a wolf pup. Tying the end to his one-word vocabulary was a bittersweet bonus. I give Hodor's death a big thumbs-up, although the zombie apocalypse aspect is a bit cheesy.


I never saw Syrio die. I choose to believe he made it out, maybe hanging with the Hound and Gendry.
Syrio  
Shadow : 5/24/2016 1:32 pm : link
Is a faceless man and has been training an apprentice the whole time.
Until I see different it what I believe is going to happen.
RE: RE: One of the hallmarks of A Song of Ice and Fire...  
Chris in Philly : 5/24/2016 1:34 pm : link
In comment 12969466 schabadoo said:
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...has been ignominious deaths for noble characters. Hodor is one of the few to die nobly, joining other humble players like Syrio, Yoren and Jojen, who also gave their lives protecting a wolf pup. Tying the end to his one-word vocabulary was a bittersweet bonus. I give Hodor's death a big thumbs-up, although the zombie apocalypse aspect is a bit cheesy.



I never saw Syrio die. I choose to believe he made it out, maybe hanging with the Hound and Gendry.


I prefer to believe that Syrio is the Waif.
Not based on anything...  
Chris in Philly : 5/24/2016 1:34 pm : link
just a hope to see him again.
i hope  
spike : 5/24/2016 1:37 pm : link
the Hound comes back and saves Arya one more time.
Game of Thrones recent timeline  
NYG27 : 5/24/2016 2:03 pm : link
Anyone else think the timeline below is close to what's occurring in the story-line? Toughest thing to match-up was when Jon was killed in comparison on when Stannis and Bolton armies went to battle.

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Let's say for the fun of putting these timelines together, here is my theory....

1 month ago
- Battle between Bolton's army and Stannis's.
- Theon and Sansa jump the wall and travel north.
- Melisandre wasn't allowed to travel with Stannis into battle, so she was camped further north of Winderfell and the battlefields. Let's say once learning of Stannis's defeat, she traveled to the wall which takes her 3 weeks.
- Littlefinger gets word from one of his spies that Sansa has fled and makes his way to the Vale.

3 weeks ago
- Theon and Sansa are still on the run but Ramsey's men are closing in.
- Brienne saves them both and Sansa continues to go north with Brienne and Podrick to reunite with Jon.
- Theon at this time parts way with Sansa and heads off to the Iron Islands.
- Ramsey kills his father and takes over as the title of Warren of the North\Lord of Winterfell.
-Little Finger arrives at the Vale and convinces Robin to send his Vale army to protect his cousin Sansa.

1 week ago
- After Rooses death, different northan houses pledge allegence to Ramsey. Lord Umber offers Rickon Stark, Osha and Shaggy's head as gifts.
- Melisandre arrives at the Wall with news Stannis lost against the Boltons and her faith shaken
- That same night, Jon gets stabbed. His friends defend his body for a day from Alliser and the other traitors. Wildlings arrive that night to restore order. Davos convinces Melisandre to bring Jon back from the dead. Estimate Jon was dead for 3 days till he was bought back.
- Theon arrives at the Iron Islands and learns of his fathers recent death. He also gives his support to his sister Yara to succeed him as Queen.
- Littlefinger and the Vale army arrive at Moat Cailin where they take control and setup camp

Current
- Sansa, Brienne and Pod arrive at the wall, where she gets reunited with Jon....who himself has only been bought back to life a few days ago and still deciding where to leave too as he can't trust the Knights Watch after they killed him.
- Littlefinger gets the message to Sansa to meet at a location close between the wall and Moat Cailin.
- Jon and Sansa gets the message from Ramsey that he's holding Rickon as a prisoner and wants Sansa back.
- Week after their fathers death, the Iron Islands hold a kingsmoot to decide their new king. Yara makes a case and Theon gives her his support. Their uncle Euron arrives and convinces them to elect him as king and build him 1000 ships to bring Dany's army and dragons to Westros. Where the Iron born will then be able to plunder, loot and take revenge on all their enemies while Dany's army takes over all.

Roughly give or take some time here and there to accurately account for the distances traveled but that should be a solid timeline.....in my opinion. =)
Summer is no longer coming  
SwirlingEddie : 5/24/2016 2:40 pm : link
:(
RE: i hope  
Mad Mike : 5/24/2016 2:54 pm : link
In comment 12969485 spike said:
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the Hound comes back and saves Arya one more time.

The Hound vs Zombie Mountain is the grudge match all of Westeros is waiting for. The PPV revenue would be through the roof.
apparently Benioff  
UConn4523 : 5/24/2016 3:11 pm : link
says the show at this point is very different from the books. Hope that's true.
RE: One of the hallmarks of A Song of Ice and Fire...  
Pete in 'Vliet : 5/24/2016 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12969035 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...has been ignominious deaths for noble characters. Hodor is one of the few to die nobly, joining other humble players like Syrio, Yoren and Jojen, who also gave their lives protecting a wolf pup. Tying the end to his one-word vocabulary was a bittersweet bonus. I give Hodor's death a big thumbs-up, although the zombie apocalypse aspect is a bit cheesy.


Don't forget Sir Barristan and Gren (that dude held the gate against a friggen Giant) Plus that wildling lady at Hardhome who refused to get in a boat when the attack started.
RE: RE: One of the hallmarks of A Song of Ice and Fire...  
Pete in 'Vliet : 5/24/2016 3:54 pm : link
In comment 12969588 Pete in 'Vliet said:
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In comment 12969035 Big Blue Blogger said:


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...has been ignominious deaths for noble characters. Hodor is one of the few to die nobly, joining other humble players like Syrio, Yoren and Jojen, who also gave their lives protecting a wolf pup. Tying the end to his one-word vocabulary was a bittersweet bonus. I give Hodor's death a big thumbs-up, although the zombie apocalypse aspect is a bit cheesy.



Don't forget Sir Barristan and Gren (that dude held the gate against a friggen Giant) Plus that wildling lady at Hardhome who refused to get in a boat when the attack started.



Never mind. I probably should have actually read the post before replying. :/
RE: I predict we see  
5BowlsSoon : 5/24/2016 3:59 pm : link
In comment 12969082 Giantology said:
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Benjen next week.


Who is Benjen? I know he is a Stark uncle, but when have we seen him?
RE: RE: I predict we see  
Chris in Philly : 5/24/2016 4:02 pm : link
In comment 12969622 5BowlsSoon said:
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Benjen next week.



Who is Benjen? I know he is a Stark uncle, but when have we seen him?


Season one. He is the one who Jon talked to about joining the NIghts Watch. He went out on a mission and disappeared.
RE: RE: I predict we see  
schabadoo : 5/24/2016 4:03 pm : link
In comment 12969622 5BowlsSoon said:
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Benjen next week.



Who is Benjen? I know he is a Stark uncle, but when have we seen him?


When everyone went north of the Wall, I believe it was a rescue mission for Benjen.

Lets talk about Jorah for a second  
Pete in 'Vliet : 5/24/2016 4:16 pm : link
My guess is he ends up looking for a cure in the place that Sam is heading, since its where the the largest library is and is where all the maesters study.

That could set up an interesting information exchange between he and Sam. Sam knows of Shireen's cured greyscale. Plus, you know, all the White Walker stuff that could interest Danaerys.

Or he could just die along the way and we never hear from him again.
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