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NFT: Draymond Green kicking Adams in the nuts and . . .

Ralph.C : 5/22/2016 11:03 pm
. . . the post game analysis.

Green is full of crap. He kicked Adams in the balls and then acted all innocent. And listening to Barklay and Shaq say that a player should not be penalized for "something that was un-intended" is laughable. It is wasn't an accident. He intentionally kicked him.
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I don't see how it can be viewed as not intentional.  
Ira : 5/23/2016 6:57 pm : link
He deserves a suspension.
Looking back  
dep026 : 5/23/2016 6:58 pm : link
it would have been better if the refs concluded it was a flagrant 2 (like how do you determine that its only a flagrant 1, you basically admitted that he did intentionally kick him but didnt want to eject him. Thats the refs fault then)

If he got kicked out last night, he would unlikely get suspended.
you know what would be hilarious?  
santacruzom : 5/23/2016 7:07 pm : link
If both Green and Westbrook were suspended. I think I'd take that trade :)
No suspension  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/23/2016 7:16 pm : link
per Woj


https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/734884708031463424 - ( New Window )
If it wasn't Adams  
jestersdead : 5/23/2016 7:33 pm : link
2 consecutive games then I could get behind the idea it was unintentional. However when you combine post game 1 comment from Adams and then Green kicks him in the groin area two consecutive games, you're damn right I think it's intentional.
Whatever, Draymond is getting exposed in this series  
David in LA : 5/23/2016 7:41 pm : link
he's more of a liability against OKC than he is an asset.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 5/24/2016 12:23 am : link
1) He said his job was to get in Adams' head and disrupt his game. That doesn't help his defense.

2) Sure,nobody can say for certain. But, that sure as shit looked intentional. Hell, it doesn't even look remotely like a natural part of the move.

3) The officials called it a flagrant 1, right? That means no automatic suspension. The league could still have done something, especially given his comments and prior actions.

4) What really pisses me off is the notion that they can't suspend him because it would impact the series. That is fucking bullshit. The suspension isn't the impact on the series; the behavior of the player is. It's the same concept as not calling a foul in the 4th quarter so as not to allow a whistle to decide the game. Well, not blowing the whistle also impacts the outcome. If something is a foul in the first minute, it is a foul in the last minute.

5) The first thing I thought of when I heard the mention of not wanting to impact the series, I thought back to Knicks-Heat in 1997. 5 players from the Knicks were suspended, including their only bona fide star, who never even attempted to get involved in the melee. That sure as shit impacted the series. The easy and correct thing to do would have been to acknowledge the rule as written and right there admit it was wrong and not suspend Ewing.
RE: the players  
chris r : 5/24/2016 1:19 am : link
In comment 12967761 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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should have a lot of power. They impact their sport more than athletes in any other sport.


That doesn't mean they should have a lot of power.
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chris r : 5/24/2016 1:22 am : link
In comment 12967793 arcarsenal said:
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It's not like LeBron bolted from Cleveland after 2 years.. he stayed there for 7 years. Jordan won his first championship in his 7th season. LeBron asked them to get him another impact player and the best they did was Antawn Jamison. He got to the Finals with Larry Hughes as his wingman. I'm not sure how much longer he was supposed to stay on a team where he had no help.


The point is he used back stage wrangling to join his biggest EC competitor - Wade so he could have an easy path to the finals.

Imagine MJ trying to team up with say Isiah Thomas? Yeah me neither.

LeBron doesn't have a competitive bone in his body. His basketball life has been gilded since day one and he wants to keep it that way. Good for him, bad for the sport.
it's very easy to stay  
MookGiants : 5/24/2016 1:41 am : link
somewhere when you already have an all time great at your side in Scottie Pippen.

Give LeBron a player half as good as Pippen was at any point in his first stint in Cleveland and he never leaves
Some years ago, Patrick Ewing got suspended for leaving the bench,  
Ira : 5/24/2016 5:30 am : link
but Draymond Green gets a slap on the wrist for deliberately kicking Adams in the nuts. And if they say it wasn't deliberate, they're lying.
I'm still pissed about 1997  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2016 9:30 am : link
Ewing didn't go anywhere near the fight. The league sure as hell didn't worry about the impact in that series. They may not haven beaten the Bulls, but they sure as hell would have put more of a fight in the conference finals than Miami did.
RE: Some years ago, Patrick Ewing got suspended for leaving the bench,  
Matt M. : 5/24/2016 11:15 am : link
In comment 12968845 Ira said:
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but Draymond Green gets a slap on the wrist for deliberately kicking Adams in the nuts. And if they say it wasn't deliberate, they're lying.
The absurdity was the letter of the law in that rule. It says if you leave the bench with no room for interpretation. Ewing left the bench and literally strayed a few feet in the opposite direction of the melee so as to make sure he wasn't even remotely confused with being involved. He was nowhere near the fight and the league was more than happy to suspend him. The Knicks also got the raw end, with more players suspended.
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arcarsenal : 5/24/2016 11:39 am : link
In comment 12968804 chris r said:
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It's not like LeBron bolted from Cleveland after 2 years.. he stayed there for 7 years. Jordan won his first championship in his 7th season. LeBron asked them to get him another impact player and the best they did was Antawn Jamison. He got to the Finals with Larry Hughes as his wingman. I'm not sure how much longer he was supposed to stay on a team where he had no help.



The point is he used back stage wrangling to join his biggest EC competitor - Wade so he could have an easy path to the finals.

Imagine MJ trying to team up with say Isiah Thomas? Yeah me neither.

LeBron doesn't have a competitive bone in his body. His basketball life has been gilded since day one and he wants to keep it that way. Good for him, bad for the sport.


Jordan didn't have to leave, he had a cast good enough to win Championships with for half his career. If Jordan was stuck on teams with the talent equivalent to the Cleveland teams LeBron played with his first go around and you think he would have just played good soldier and never tried to leave, you're just feeding yourself a heavy dose of bullshit.

And spare me the idea that LeBron "doesn't have a competitive bone in his body".. remind me who the MVP of the Finals was the 2 years he won in Miami? You don't win 4 MVP's and wind up on 5 or 6 All-Defensive teams when you're not competitive. Give me a break. What an asinine statement.
arcar  
Matt M. : 5/24/2016 11:46 am : link
Jordan didn't have very talented teams when he first got to Chicago.
RE: arcar  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2016 11:57 am : link
In comment 12969304 Matt M. said:
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Jordan didn't have very talented teams when he first got to Chicago.


I didn't say he did, but by year 4 Pippen and Grant were there. Oakley was on a few of his teams as well. LeBron played 7 years in Cleveland his first go around.. who was the best player he played with in that entire 7 year span? Larry Hughes? Antawn Jamison? Varejao who missed half of every other season?

There's literally no comparison.
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dep026 : 5/24/2016 12:06 pm : link
In comment 12969324 arcarsenal said:
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Jordan didn't have very talented teams when he first got to Chicago.



I didn't say he did, but by year 4 Pippen and Grant were there. Oakley was on a few of his teams as well. LeBron played 7 years in Cleveland his first go around.. who was the best player he played with in that entire 7 year span? Larry Hughes? Antawn Jamison? Varejao who missed half of every other season?

There's literally no comparison.


But again, he hand picked a lot of those players.

And how come cleveland do what teams are doing now? You see bad contract traded all the time. You see teams paying the luxury tax.

I understand the notion of leaving via free agency. My point is the problems lebon encountered had a lot to do with him. And with the beginning of his tenure at miami through today, the players are making contracts/free agency/trades ridiculous.
RE: RE: the players  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/24/2016 12:07 pm : link
In comment 12968803 chris r said:
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should have a lot of power. They impact their sport more than athletes in any other sport.



That doesn't mean they should have a lot of power.


So then how long should an individual player be forced to live and play in a certain city without any choice in the matter?
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arcarsenal : 5/24/2016 12:10 pm : link
In comment 12969337 dep026 said:
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In comment 12969304 Matt M. said:


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Jordan didn't have very talented teams when he first got to Chicago.



I didn't say he did, but by year 4 Pippen and Grant were there. Oakley was on a few of his teams as well. LeBron played 7 years in Cleveland his first go around.. who was the best player he played with in that entire 7 year span? Larry Hughes? Antawn Jamison? Varejao who missed half of every other season?

There's literally no comparison.



But again, he hand picked a lot of those players.

And how come cleveland do what teams are doing now? You see bad contract traded all the time. You see teams paying the luxury tax.

I understand the notion of leaving via free agency. My point is the problems lebon encountered had a lot to do with him. And with the beginning of his tenure at miami through today, the players are making contracts/free agency/trades ridiculous.


Who did he hand pick? He was making roster decisions at age 21? I highly doubt that 10 years ago he had anywhere near the hand in roster building that he does now.
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