Time to burn at the airport and I was contemplating the best vocalists in rock (yes, this is very subjective)
Whereas I am adamant that my prototypical front man is Steve Marriott , he isn't the best vocalist.
If you had to pick ONE, who would it be?
I'm torn between Carl Wilson and Richard Manuel. Although, I'm leaning towards Manuel.
Perry, Ozzy, mercury are amazing. Richard Manuel, to me, had the greatest voice
Push comes to shove I probably go Cornell as well. He's got great versatility and I think he can compliment many different styles.
I'm an Incubus nut, so Brandon Boyd is up there for me. From funk/punk/rap to what he is now shows me his evolution and range. I'd put him up there with anyone even though Incubus was no where near as popular as many of the other big names.
So we're in the genre of Rock and Roll ONLY.
Do you mean singing quality, does performance count?
Elements? Timbre, Power, Smoothness, Dynamics, Range, Ability? Agility?
Yet...
So we're in the genre of Rock and Roll ONLY.
Do you mean singing quality, does performance count?
Elements? Timbre, Power, Smoothness, Dynamics, Range, Ability? Agility?
Don't over think it. I said objective you can say Karen Carpenter for all we care.
I'd put in my top 5:
Joe Strummer
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
David Bowie
Freddie Mercury
and it's hard to leave off Robert Plant, Kurt Cobain, Ozzy and Axl among others.
Huge Plant fan. My problem is, I listen to Zeppelin too much and get burned out.
I'd put in my top 5:
Joe Strummer
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
David Bowie
Freddie Mercury
and it's hard to leave off Robert Plant, Kurt Cobain, Ozzy and Axl among others.
I rolled my eyes when I saw Axl was going to lead AC/DC. I watched some clips and he's been awesome. I was totally wrong.
Notably absent: Ann Wilson
Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden. Great range, power, and can sing while running around.
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I've grown so used to hearing them sing their own songs.
I'd put in my top 5:
Joe Strummer
Bruce Springsteen
Elvis
David Bowie
Freddie Mercury
and it's hard to leave off Robert Plant, Kurt Cobain, Ozzy and Axl among others.
I rolled my eyes when I saw Axl was going to lead AC/DC. I watched some clips and he's been awesome. I was totally wrong.
I thought he sounded fine too, and I'm biased because Appetite for Destruction came out during my early high school days, and music was much more important then.
Between listening to Appetite for Destruction, London Calling and Bruce Sprinsteen 75 - 85 Live I may have spent years of my life.
Gotta have Aretha and Gladys Knight and Bonnie Raitt and many others on the female side too.
Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden. Great range, power, and can sing while running around.
I thought Halford or Gillan would be mentioned first.
YouTube Bruce and Glenn Hughes do Burn. Wow
Cormac Neeson from The Answer.
If we're talking Frontman, I'd add Steve Whiteman from Kix, Hairmetal's best.
Gotta have Aretha and Gladys Knight and Bonnie Raitt and many others on the female side too.
Speaking of opera... I have to give a shout out to my favorite "pissed off opera singer" sounding singer Serj Tankian.
Cornell
Mercury
Vedder (since you can't understand him you just feel the words)
Elton pre 1987
Plant
Windwood
Van Morrison (pre 1980)
(Would I get run off the board for suggesting Geddy Lee pre 1995)
Cornell
Mercury
Vedder (since you can't understand him you just feel the words)
Elton pre 1987
Plant
Windwood
Van Morrison (pre 1980)
(Would I get run off the board for suggesting Geddy Lee pre 1995)
What about the voice of Geddy Lee
How did it get so high?
I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
On the female side, Linda Ronstadt. Honorable mention to Darlene Love, Marilyn McCoo and Cass Elliot.
Rob Halford - Priest
Geoff Tate - Queensryche - love the singer, but the person - not so much.
Not saying that I dislike the music for any of them, just that I likely wouldn't turn my chair around if I heard them singing blind.
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it is:
Cornell
Mercury
Vedder (since you can't understand him you just feel the words)
Elton pre 1987
Plant
Windwood
Van Morrison (pre 1980)
(Would I get run off the board for suggesting Geddy Lee pre 1995)
What about the voice of Geddy Lee
How did it get so high?
I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
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it is:
Cornell
Mercury
Vedder (since you can't understand him you just feel the words)
Elton pre 1987
Plant
Windwood
Van Morrison (pre 1980)
(Would I get run off the board for suggesting Geddy Lee pre 1995)
What about the voice of Geddy Lee
How did it get so high?
I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
How do you know Ged?
I don't. that's a line from the Pavement song Stereo.
I loved Pavement growing up. the post just made me think of that line.
Bruce Dickinson
Brendan Perry
Chris Cornell
Freddie Mercury
always loved Gerry Rafferty's voice too.
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In comment 12968150 NYGIANTS86 said:
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it is:
Cornell
Mercury
Vedder (since you can't understand him you just feel the words)
Elton pre 1987
Plant
Windwood
Van Morrison (pre 1980)
(Would I get run off the board for suggesting Geddy Lee pre 1995)
What about the voice of Geddy Lee
How did it get so high?
I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
How do you know Ged?
I don't. that's a line from the Pavement song Stereo.
I loved Pavement growing up. the post just made me think of that line.
Lindsey Buckingham would be at the top of my list.
Eddie Vedder and Al Jorgensen are really really good live too.
Of the classic arena rock bands, Freddie Mercury, Plant in his prime are kings - raw talent among the top selling rock acts - Ann Wilson from Heart is my favorite in that category for sure, just a beautiful voice with oodles of power, killer range, clarity and accuracy, and a sweet, sexy stage presence.
But getting away from big or second tier album/arena bands?
Personal favorite rock vocalist (my wife aside) is Patty Griffin. A country singer by trade, she put out an album years ago "Flaming Red", that blew me away. She's married to Robert Plant now, I believe.
Tony - ( New Window )
I really was blown away that night. Gained a new respect for him.
This^^^^^
For rock I've always liked Ian Gillan and James Hetfield.
Before 1964, there was mostly r and b-tinged rock (including race music), doo-wop, surfing-type music, rockabilly-tinged rock, whites covers and copies of race music, and things like that.
So, in their days, Elvis, The 4 Seasons and The Beach Boys, as well as groups like the Platters, were considered rock, not pop, although the exact same performances 15 years later would have been pop. So, early Elvis and Frankie Vali qualify.
One of the underrated early rock singers, btw, was Johnny
Maestro, who doesn't even make Billboard's list of the top 100 male singers. That's just dumb.
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McCartney, Plant, Jagger and Orbison all get honorable mention. And although certainly not a classic front man I personally love Neil Young.
Pat Benatar and Ann Wilson are both great female rockers.
Johnny Cash
Brian Ferry
Sam Cooke
Otis Redding
Wilson Picket
Sam and Dave and Solomon Burke
Levi....don't care if he was a subset of "rock" He was great.
David Ruffin
Dion
Warren Zevon ( hard to think of someone else doing those songs)
Lou Reed ( we said distinctive)
Ray Davies
Ann Wilson
Emmylou Harris
Peter Wolf
Anne Haslam
Chrisse Hynde
Joan Jett
Dusty Springfield
Johnny Cash
Brian Ferry
Sam Cooke
Otis Redding
Wilson Picket
Sam and Dave and Solomon Burke
Levi....don't care if he was a subset of "rock" He was great.
David Ruffin
Dion
Warren Zevon ( hard to think of someone else doing those songs)
Lou Reed ( we said distinctive)
Ray Davies
Ann Wilson
Emmylou Harris
Peter Wolf
Anne Haslam
Chrisse Hynde
Joan Jett
Dusty Springfield
Chrissy Hynde a big yes, but Bill your list leaves out Diamond David Lee Roth.
I am a unable to appreciate him like others might. I sensed a cross between Broadway show tunes, Bill Murrays lounge act and Ethel Merman every time I saw/heard the entertainer Diamond Dave.
Hope you are well Bobby
Paul Rodgers
John Wetton
Carl Wilson
Brad Delp
I am a unable to appreciate him like others might. I sensed a cross between Broadway show tunes, Bill Murrays lounge act and Ethel Merman every time I saw/heard the entertainer Diamond Dave.
Hope you are well Bobby
Bill, hope you are also well. So many questions on the markets., so little time to type them. And have you heard from Phil from WNY? I used to get his newsletter but no more.
As for women, I love Macy Gray, scratchy soul. Loved her work with Fatboy Slim.
It's an interesting time isn't it?
Not that eight year Presidential election years are not usually time CFOs and mid market lenders pull in the horns until after the fist State of the Union tells them all those promises are not going to be funded and a few establishment cabinet faces tell them the world will not end.
But this time what we see out of China Japan Russia and Europe is pretty fascinating and not likely to last nine more months with out a leak somewhere.
but no more millering om a good thread. Not stuff I find easy to discuss here anyway...to many substantive folks don't seem to be around.
take care. I will reach out to Phil
If you combine rock and soul, Otis and Aretha float to the top. Otis would have been very close to the top if he didn;t die so young. Aretha is number one in the Rolling Stone "100 greatest singers of all time" list. Of course, "all time" starts in 1955, and doesn't include American Songbook singers like Sinatra or Bennett. But still...
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roy orbison
freddie mercury
roger daltrey
I mentioned some honorable mentions in an earlier post but should have included Jon Anderson from Yes
Plant.
Van is way up there. Original. Different styles from blues to jazz to Celtic to scat to r&b. Blend of all of those. And did it over many albums and years.
I am surprised no one thought of this one: Early Rod Stewart. Listen to his live stuff with Faces. He went silly in the late 80s but he had a very good run as a vocalist.
Ditto....Sly Stone. Ditto Bob Marley/Jimmy Cliff.
But the one I haven't seen mentioned yet, that I would include in that group is Steve Walsh from Kansas. An amazing voice from an American band that doesn't get the respect they deserve, in my opinion. Their first five albums are still among my very favorites from anyone.
But if you are talking about now, there are two guys who stand out and no one is even close to me:
Maynard James Keenan (the best. Can sing anything and everything, however it needs to be sung and does.) He has a unique voice yet is easy to pick out no matter the style of the song.
Trent Reznor. Completely underrated even though he gets a lot of attention. He should get more. Stupidly talented.
Grohl ain't bad either. And historically, his bandmate stands out a bit.
All of this depends on how you want to judge.
[for the record, here's my dave grohl roadmap: early 90s (monkey dave grohl), mid 90s (long hair new frontman grohl), mid-late 90s (color and the shape era plaid dave grohl), and 99 grohl (nothing left to lose hilarious grohl)... then one by one came, and his slow downfall precipitated, till he became anti electronic music dad rock grohl :( :( :(.....]
IMO, I think you have to go Chris Cornell and Freddie Mercury out of well known vocalists based on talent alone (and okay, a little bit of my personal taste as well)...
for an under the radar choice though, there was this dude in this very 'out there' 90s alt band called 'self' who I always thought had a fantastic voice. His name was Matt Mahaffey, and there band was from Mulfesboro, TN (def spelled that wrong).
And I always thought his vocals at about 0:22 into this song stood up to any other rock vocalist (i guess it's more the harmonies, but at least hte harmonies show serious range)
self - grow up - ( New Window )
[for the record, here's my dave grohl roadmap: early 90s (monkey dave grohl), mid 90s (long hair new frontman grohl), mid-late 90s (color and the shape era plaid dave grohl), and 99 grohl (nothing left to lose hilarious grohl)... then one by one came, and his slow downfall precipitated, till he became anti electronic music dad rock grohl :( :( :(.....]
IMO, I think you have to go Chris Cornell and Freddie Mercury out of well known vocalists based on talent alone (and okay, a little bit of my personal taste as well)...
for an under the radar choice though, there was this dude in this very 'out there' 90s alt band called 'self' who I always thought had a fantastic voice. His name was Matt Mahaffey, and there band was from Mulfesboro, TN (def spelled that wrong).
And I always thought his vocals at about 0:22 into this song stood up to any other rock vocalist (i guess it's more the harmonies, but at least hte harmonies show serious range)
self - grow up - ( New Window )
hence the subjective nature of this....I find Chris Cornell's voice grating and at times painful, especially after like 2 songs. I think Grohl is a better singer not just for how he sings but he's also a trillion times better a lead singer than Cornell. Live especially. Either way, both of these guys are no where close to the 2 guys I named.
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Dave Grohl during his 1991-2001 eras is one of my favorite rock musicians all around in general, but best rock vocalist?
[for the record, here's my dave grohl roadmap: early 90s (monkey dave grohl), mid 90s (long hair new frontman grohl), mid-late 90s (color and the shape era plaid dave grohl), and 99 grohl (nothing left to lose hilarious grohl)... then one by one came, and his slow downfall precipitated, till he became anti electronic music dad rock grohl :( :( :(.....]
IMO, I think you have to go Chris Cornell and Freddie Mercury out of well known vocalists based on talent alone (and okay, a little bit of my personal taste as well)...
for an under the radar choice though, there was this dude in this very 'out there' 90s alt band called 'self' who I always thought had a fantastic voice. His name was Matt Mahaffey, and there band was from Mulfesboro, TN (def spelled that wrong).
And I always thought his vocals at about 0:22 into this song stood up to any other rock vocalist (i guess it's more the harmonies, but at least hte harmonies show serious range)
self - grow up - ( New Window )
hence the subjective nature of this....I find Chris Cornell's voice grating and at times painful, especially after like 2 songs. I think Grohl is a better singer not just for how he sings but he's also a trillion times better a lead singer than Cornell. Live especially. Either way, both of these guys are no where close to the 2 guys I named.
My favorite singer is a guy named Marc Paffi for a little know post hardcore band called Bear vs Shark. Dude sounds like a gruff lumberjack spastically shouting while still being gentle enough to catch bluejays in his hands, or something.
With Ann Wilson - everyone RAVED about Hearts Stairway performance a few years back, Ann's voice was higher, even prettier when she was younger.
Really - should just say 'best male vocalist' cause the ladies have an unfair advantage.
Van is way up there. Original. Different styles from blues to jazz to Celtic to scat to r&b. Blend of all of those. And did it over many albums and years.
I am surprised no one thought of this one: Early Rod Stewart. Listen to his live stuff with Faces. He went silly in the late 80s but he had a very good run as a vocalist.
Ditto....Sly Stone. Ditto Bob Marley/Jimmy Cliff.
Rod was amazing in The Faces, which is impressive considering he replaced the best front man ever !!!
One who ranks up there with them is Sinead O'Connor.
And Iggy Pop (in his glory days. he's put out a lot of meh over the last couple of decades).
In the modern age, I like the sound of the singer in Deathcab for Cutie.
Matt Bellamy
Back in the day, give me Plant, Paul Rodgers, 60's/70's Jerry Garcia, Rod Stewart (esp. Faces) and Freddie.
None taken.
I like these threads to envoke discussion about different music, and sometimes turning people onto new music.
I don't think any reputable publication will take this thread and do a ranking!
That being said, if they did....Richard Manuel would win. Ha
Back in the day, give me Plant, Paul Rodgers, 60's/70's Jerry Garcia, Rod Stewart (esp. Faces) and Freddie.
Not Chris Robinson?!?!
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Jim James & Jeff Tweedy. Two amazing front men and two amazing voices.
Back in the day, give me Plant, Paul Rodgers, 60's/70's Jerry Garcia, Rod Stewart (esp. Faces) and Freddie.
Not Chris Robinson?!?!
Love Chris too (and will be seeing CRB at Mtn. Jam in less than 2 weeks at Hunter Mountain). Black Crowes one of my all-time fave bands.
Also put up a vote for Warren Haynes.
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Jim James & Jeff Tweedy. Two amazing front men and two amazing voices.
Back in the day, give me Plant, Paul Rodgers, 60's/70's Jerry Garcia, Rod Stewart (esp. Faces) and Freddie.
Not Chris Robinson?!?!
Love Chris too (and will be seeing CRB at Mtn. Jam in less than 2 weeks at Hunter Mountain). Black Crowes one of my all-time fave bands.
As you know I'm a big Crowes fan, too. That being said, CRB isn't my thing. Rich's new song is great.
Big Warren fan, but dude sounds like he's taking a mondo Duke when he's singing lol
Smiiiles await you when you rise
Sleep pretty darlin' do not cry
And I will sing a lullabyyyyy...
David Bowie
Janis Joplin
Guys like Plant, Mercury or as I mentioned Staley and Weiland--and Bowie, whether or not I listen to them often, they do fit the criteria. Staley might be the most arguable there.
Freddy Mercury is the king. Just forget it. Unusual, beautiful, varied qualities, and flat out kick-your-ass, blow-you-away, power.
David Bowie is 2nd in the male category. Unusual quality -- Not another voice like this out there, ever. Goes from Suffragette City to The Little Drummer Boy with Bing Crosby. A voice that commands respect.
Women -- I'm giving Ann Wilson 2nd place because I don't want first place to go to someone because she sounded like someone else (Robert Plant) on steroids. I have seen her live. 2nd place is a huge compliment because she is amazing.
Bonnie Raitte -- Best female rock vocalist. Unique, honey-sweet and gritty when she wants to be. Power, beauty, range, and sends chills in softer registers, as well as when she blows the doors off concert halls.
Annie Lennox is up there, but I don't like her stylistic range. Saw her recently in a PBS concert, and frankly, she bored me.
Freddy Mercury is the king. Just forget it. Unusual, beautiful, varied qualities, and flat out kick-your-ass, blow-you-away, power.
David Bowie is 2nd in the male category. Unusual quality -- Not another voice like this out there, ever. Goes from Suffragette City to The Little Drummer Boy with Bing Crosby. A voice that commands respect.
Women -- I'm giving Ann Wilson 2nd place because I don't want first place to go to someone because she sounded like someone else (Robert Plant) on steroids. I have seen her live. 2nd place is a huge compliment because she is amazing.
Bonnie Raitte -- Best female rock vocalist. Unique, honey-sweet and gritty when she wants to be. Power, beauty, range, and sends chills in softer registers, as well as when she blows the doors off concert halls.
Annie Lennox is up there, but I don't like her stylistic range. Saw her recently in a PBS concert, and frankly, she bored me.
I don't get that. Is it because they cover a couple of Zep tunes? Ann's voice, mid-70's was in a league of it's own. Nobody else sounded like her, and yes, she was really the only female in that decade who could pull off the arena thing better than most of the men.
Dig out a copy of Dreamboat Annie and run through that album - Wilson could do it all. She was amazing.
Daltrey
Brian Ferry
Levon Helm
Richard Manual
Bob Marley
Greg Lake
Thanks to some reminders from above.
If I had to pick only one and strictly considering voice and nothing else, I might have to pick Greg Lake. From the Beginning is a beautiful rock song.
Most of the others listed on this post are simply people listing their favorites, not really identifying traits that make a particular singer among the best.
Freddie Mercury is repeated throughout with very good reason. The dude was the bomb.
By the way, Axl Rose is about as pleasant as a dentist drill. "You're in the Jungle Baby! You're gonna diiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee!" Shoot me now.
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I used to hate his voice, especially when he would screech like his balls were being squeezed in a vice. As a kid I was always a much bigger fan of The Who than Zep, partly because of Daltrey vs. Plant. I've grown to like Zep, but it's still more despite Plant than because of him.
Plant does possess a bit of an unpleasant whine - a love/hate sort of thing and yeah - that's why I don't list him as a candidate for 'best' vocalist. Daltrey had a more pleasant timbre, but always lacked range.
Most of the others listed on this post are simply people listing their favorites, not really identifying traits that make a particular singer among the best.
Freddie Mercury is repeated throughout with very good reason. The dude was the bomb.
By the way, Axl Rose is about as pleasant as a dentist drill. "You're in the Jungle Baby! You're gonna diiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee!" Shoot me now.
there is always one douche bag who goes on an opinion thread and finds it necessary to shit on other people's opinions. I explained why I thought Axl Rose was among the best vocalists, you don't agree, good for you, maybe someone will in fact shoot you now and put us all and society out of our misery having to listen to you condescending shit.
Daltrey
Brian Ferry
Levon Helm
Richard Manual
Bob Marley
Greg Lake
Thanks to some reminders from above.
If I had to pick only one and strictly considering voice and nothing else, I might have to pick Greg Lake. From the Beginning is a beautiful rock song.
No love for Ricky Danko? Good gotta complete your triad
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I used to hate his voice, especially when he would screech like his balls were being squeezed in a vice. As a kid I was always a much bigger fan of The Who than Zep, partly because of Daltrey vs. Plant. I've grown to like Zep, but it's still more despite Plant than because of him.
You can "like" Daltry and be a Who fan, but if you think he has a better voice than Plant then you are biased.
I prefer Daltrys screams over Plants squeals.
That being said, when Plant is singing there are few better. Since I've Been Loving You prime example. His voice seems to have changed around IV
Sorry, I just can't help it. I know it's mean, but I reallyreallyreally HATE Axl.
And fwiw, I did see them live at MSG Use Your Illusion tour they wee great, the Soungsrden opener even better. (I wouldn't have gone had I known about the women beating thing beforehand)
Now, If you want to talk about the monster iconic guitarist that Slash is, I'm right with you. But fuck Axl.
Sorry, I just can't help it. I know it's mean, but I reallyreallyreally HATE Axl.
And fwiw, I did see them live at MSG Use Your Illusion tour they wee great, the Soungsrden opener even better. (I wouldn't have gone had I known about the women beating thing beforehand)
Now, If you want to talk about the monster iconic guitarist that Slash is, I'm right with you. But fuck Axl.
He was molested as a child, it's not a pass to beat women or do anything else, but I'm sure it has influenced his behavior as an adult. I have a soft spot in my heart for people that are or have been abused as children. It's a horrific crime to prey on the innocent, especially those who cannot defend themselves.
Doesn't excuse his behavior, and he should be held accountable for his actions, but I also try not to judge others.
Scorpions- Klaus Meine
Back in the day, give me Plant, Paul Rodgers, 60's/70's Jerry Garcia, Rod Stewart (esp. Faces) and Freddie.
I'm listening to Free right now.. fucking Paul Rodgers. He's awesome. Still is.
Van is way up there. Original. Different styles from blues to jazz to Celtic to scat to r&b. Blend of all of those. And did it over many albums and years.
I am surprised no one thought of this one: Early Rod Stewart. Listen to his live stuff with Faces. He went silly in the late 80s but he had a very good run as a vocalist.
Ditto....Sly Stone. Ditto Bob Marley/Jimmy Cliff.
We are very much on the same page Bill. Van is incredible, from Astral Weeks, which when you consider how it was recorded, rehearsal-free and largely in one take, may be the greatest album of all time, to Veedon Fleece with Streets of Arklow and You Don't Push the River to classics like Caravan. He covered so much ground.
And I unabashedly love Rod Stewart. From the Faces through his early solo albums, he as right up their with the big Brits of that era.
Back in the day, give me Plant, Paul Rodgers, 60's/70's Jerry Garcia, Rod Stewart (esp. Faces) and Freddie.
Jim James voice is something to behold. It can be utterly average and unremarkable on some tracks and a bar burner on others. Dondante and his backing vocals on Oberst's contributions to Monsters of Folk, especially Temezcal, are incredible. And to think, on early Jacket albums he soaked his voice in reverb because he didn't like the way it sounded...
Freddie Mercury - Queen
Linda Ronstadt - Stone Ponys, or solo
A lot of people mentioned here are great and I like their music, but as for best voice I don't think they rank.
Best Male Vocalist: Freddie Mercury
Best Female Vocalist: Karen Carpenter
My favorite vocalist: Jon Anderson
Freddie Mercury - Queen
Linda Ronstadt - Stone Ponys, or solo
A lot of people mentioned here are great and I like their music, but as for best voice I don't think they rank.
I think you mean Steve Perry. Joe Perry is a guitarist for Aerosmith.