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giantgiantfan : 5/24/2016 2:35 am
I'm bringing this to the BBI family cause this is the only message board I am really involved in and want some outside perspective.

So I met her when she was about 2 and I was about 13 and of course she does not remember me. I wish I had like picked her up or something, but I was bitter for a variety of reasons. My (Our) Dad had an affair and I don't even think she knows that. I attempted reaching out to her on facebook back in 2010, but she was only about 15 then and I was about 26. I think I freaked her out cause she said her mom had never told her and probably fed her a line of shit since she was fucking my Dad behind my Moms back. Backstory I walked in on them fucking when I was 5 years old after coming home from school one day.

Anyways, she ceased communication with me. Likely thinking I was a stalker or some other creep. Clearly this was not a smart move, but I was going through a rough patch and wanted to reach out to something I guess. She lives on the otherside of the country. She is now 20 or so from what I can tell via facebook. Growing up an only child I always wanted a sibling. I feel I deserve to know what its like to have a sibling and I think I've been robbed of that my entire life. I might even have an even younger brother, no idea, haven't been able to figure that out yet.

How should I approach this? I don't want a repeat from my last attempt. I've been patiently waiting for her to get older and become an adult so she can cope with this easier. We share the same last name. What should I do? I don't feel comfortable bringing this up with my Dad as we have a barely functioning, semi-existent relationship. Is this weird? There's a whole bag of rotten shit in our past from a common father. I'm wondering if I should like talk to a counselor or just drop it as maybe she has a more functioning life and I don't need to ruin hers? Fuck I don't know.

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Fucking your dad...  
Route 9 : 5/24/2016 2:40 am : link
Not worth the sibling!
From an ancestry site:  
manh george : 5/24/2016 2:59 am : link
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I have tried several approaches when trying to make contact with extended family members.

So far, I have had the best responses to letters sent through the mail. I think that emails can be easily ignored or

forgotten, but not many people forget that they received a letter. I think many folks appreciate the time that someone

takes to write and mail a letter also.

The last time I did this I also included copies of some photos I had of the grandfather of the woman I was writing to and

she was thrilled to get them - that seemed to get her more interested in what else I might be willing to share and

it turned out she was willing to share as well.
Is there any commonality pertaining to your dad  
Sonic Youth : 5/24/2016 3:48 am : link
that she would immediately recognize to know you aren't full of shit/a weirdo/creepy stalker?

I feel like that'd be a good place to start, along with a brief description about how you are pretty sure (I don't know your specific situation, but provided you were able to establish common ground I wouldn't tell her 'positive') that you guys are related 'in some way'.

Keeping it vague at the outset and then easing into details after you build some rapport is probably the way to go.

I like the letter idea, but it's tough to send a 20 year old a letter. If they're at college, it's nearly impossible to figure out their dorm room, and no college students check physical mail. If you send it to the 'real home' house, it will be intercepted and will not be private.

Nowadays, Facebook is probably nearly as bad, as you cannot even guarantee the message will reach her (they have a separate inbox for non-friends).

If she's 20, best way to reach her (discounting snapchat which is weird automatically) is probably college email or gmail (everyone, EVERYONE has a gmail). Honestly, to a 20 year old, Instagram might actually be appropriate - there's no 'non friend message inbox', and you could actually attach a picture of you and your Dad if you have one (I know it's rough if you guys aren't talking, but the goal here is to get to know your sister, right?)

...But IG or not, if you have something or anything that can establish off the bat you aren't full of shit, even if it's a story your Dad had told you that he likely also told her , it'd probably be enough to get her to at least reciprocate the connection.

I hope it works out for you man. My little sister is my best friend and the single most important person to me in the world without any type of question or hesitation... she is truly the one person in this world i would not think twice about doing anything for, no matter what it cost me, and I hope that you are able to establish that bond with your lil sis in due time.
RE: Is there any commonality pertaining to your dad  
giantgiantfan : 5/24/2016 4:13 am : link
In comment 12968833 Sonic Youth said:
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that she would immediately recognize to know you aren't full of shit/a weirdo/creepy stalker?

I feel like that'd be a good place to start, along with a brief description about how you are pretty sure (I don't know your specific situation, but provided you were able to establish common ground I wouldn't tell her 'positive') that you guys are related 'in some way'.

Keeping it vague at the outset and then easing into details after you build some rapport is probably the way to go.

I like the letter idea, but it's tough to send a 20 year old a letter. If they're at college, it's nearly impossible to figure out their dorm room, and no college students check physical mail. If you send it to the 'real home' house, it will be intercepted and will not be private.

Nowadays, Facebook is probably nearly as bad, as you cannot even guarantee the message will reach her (they have a separate inbox for non-friends).

If she's 20, best way to reach her (discounting snapchat which is weird automatically) is probably college email or gmail (everyone, EVERYONE has a gmail). Honestly, to a 20 year old, Instagram might actually be appropriate - there's no 'non friend message inbox', and you could actually attach a picture of you and your Dad if you have one (I know it's rough if you guys aren't talking, but the goal here is to get to know your sister, right?)

...But IG or not, if you have something or anything that can establish off the bat you aren't full of shit, even if it's a story your Dad had told you that he likely also told her , it'd probably be enough to get her to at least reciprocate the connection.

I hope it works out for you man. My little sister is my best friend and the single most important person to me in the world without any type of question or hesitation... she is truly the one person in this world i would not think twice about doing anything for, no matter what it cost me, and I hope that you are able to establish that bond with your lil sis in due time.


The dad/me picture is brilliant. However, I was actually looking at our last correspondence which I had to dig deep for in facebook and she knows I exist, we sent about 6 messages each back and forth. Not sure I really proved I'm not bullshit though, but if I'm going to give it one last go I wonder if I should wait a few more years. Shit, she might not even remember what our sperm donor of a father looks like.

I'm thinking I should let this die. She probably just isn't interested. At that age she is more interested in friends and being young. She has a family and isn't an "only" child like me so this likely doesn't interest her. I've got my friends, they are brother and sister enough for me I guess.

I dunno. I'll sleep on this. Other advice is welcomed. Thanks sonic and manh.
Her young age might have to do with it  
Route 9 : 5/24/2016 4:44 am : link
If She's in college now so it's about partying fucking and more fucking. Also trying to cheat in classes during exams.

Maybe wait until she is older so she can handle it in a more serious way.
Some positive advice here but you mentioned one you should investigate  
jjgmrg901 : 5/24/2016 5:19 am : link
I think speaking to a therapist or councilor who has not only an idea of how to approach this rather delicate situation but would probably give you a few viable options that you might find on here.

On a side not, Route 9 why don't read some of your posts. Not sure what you think you accomplish with your immature attitude toward other individuals, especially college students. Not sure a blanket statement works in this situation. There are therapists available for you also
So what's the end game here  
leatherneck570 : 5/24/2016 5:40 am : link
other than dropping the bombshell that her that her dad is a cheating asshole? From this POV, it seems like you might still be bitter about the situation and want someone to share your misery with. I'm really not trying to psychoanalyze you based on a single post, but I've seen similar situations play out before. Maybe work on forgiving your dad first so you can approach it from a clear state of mind? If you can't (and trust me, I understand) I'd leave it alone. But that's just me.
I know I am from a different generation but social media  
steve in ky : 5/24/2016 6:24 am : link
seems like the wrong way to do something like this. If it were me I would try my best to see her in person. I would first write her a letter telling her that you were going to be near her for an unrelated trip of some sorts (vacation or something) and that you think it would be nice to at least once get to meet each other and ask if you could posiblly meet for coffee one afternoon at her choosing. You may want to apologize for upsetting her by springing it on her on facebook in the past (don't mention you were going through "a rough" time) and that now with you both being older and since you were going to have the opportunity of being in the same vicinity you thought meeting for coffee might be mutual agreeable. You may even mention that while you would like to meet her because she is you younger sister keeping in some sort of contact over time even if for no other reason than medical history type of information may be a wise thing for you both to do but if she chooses not to you will respect that and leave any future contact up to her and that you will be there for her if she ever would desire to meet.

Then pony up and plan a trip that you would enjoy somewhere near enough to her and if she allows you to come to her area of the country and still refuses to meet move on with your life knowing that you did everything that a good older brother could do under difficult circumstances no father should have placed you in. Maybe one day when she reaches the age you are now she will return the favor and reach out to you.

If you would get to meet her don't make it a venting session where you dump on your father. Just make it about getting to know her, and she you.

Good luck with it however you choose to proceed. I hope you find what you are looking for.

PS unrelated but you may want to consider one day forgiving your father at some point. He obviously is flawed and caused your family grief but he is still the only father you have. Now that you are older forgiving him (while not forgetting) and moving forward from this point may allow you to get something from family you desire. If nothing else it allows you to move forward in life knowing that you did everything a good son could do having been placed in circumstances no father should have put you in.

Again I wish you well, I will pray for you that you may find peace with it all regardless of the outcome.

if she shares  
fkap : 5/24/2016 6:26 am : link
the same last name, she obviously took your shared father's name (presumably different than her mother's), and thus would be well aware of the history of her conception, and isn't interested in a sibling relationship.

This might be harsh, but your post came across with a sense of entitlement that you deserve a sibling. try keeping that tone out of any communication with her. no one is entitled to a sibling. you may want one, but no one deserves one.

Plus, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. even if she's receptive, you're highly unlikely to be family. you didn't grow up together, haven't shared common experiences, etc. you'll be two strangers with a common sperm donor, not the sibling relationship you're romanticizing.

Take it down a notch. Lose the potentially creepy 'I want a sister' angle, and approach it neutrally with 'we're biologically related, so can we talk?'
What fkap said.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/24/2016 6:35 am : link
+1.

I'll add that there is so much predatory behavior on the Internet - especially by older men toward younger women - that the presumption of creepiness is pretty high, even if you demonstrate the authenticity of your genetic bond. A newly-discovered half-brother is no less likely to be a creep than a random stranger. It doesn't help that your shared DNA is itself a reminder of male fecklessness.
BBB  
fkap : 5/24/2016 7:02 am : link
far be it from me to disagree with someone who's agreeing with me :) but...

whoa up on the male fecklessness bit. Momma was there for the conception, too. unless there was forced sex involved, both tango partners share the responsibility for what happened on the dance floor. This is the modern age. ERA and all that.
I think it might help us sort this out...  
Maryland Giant : 5/24/2016 7:05 am : link
...if you could provide a current photo of the young lady in question.

Thanks in advance.
If you have female cousins who know her  
JohnF : 5/24/2016 7:19 am : link
and have some contact with her on occasion, you could talk to them, though I wouldn't go through the whole story...just that you are a half brother, that if she wants to contact you, she's welcome, and what your contact info is.

Otherwise, you can write a letter (remember those?), NOT going over the back story, but just with the same thing. That you're family, but you're not the same person as her father, and that the door is open on your side if she makes the decision to open it.

Leave it there, and live your life. It sucks, because she may not choose to open that door, and that will hurt...but...she has to do it, you can't do it for her.

She has to be ready to make contact, and that may be a while, if ever. And yeah, get some help if you need it.

Again, you have to live your life first. Just be ready for whatever comes.
You seem sincere in your effort and in  
rebel yell : 5/24/2016 7:29 am : link
no way do I want to discourage your desire to connect, but if you sent several FB messages back and forth and then she dropped contact, there might be a reason. Perhaps she doesn't want to hear from you, or doesn't want to consider that her Mom screwed around with a married man...or a host of many other possibilities. Either way, giving it one more shot can't hurt, but if she not receptive, you might have to consider that she's simply not ready to accept it. I'd figure out a way to go the letter and photo route.
if you write a letter  
fkap : 5/24/2016 7:31 am : link
print.
kids these days don't do cursive.

:)
BBI so rarely disappoints.  
Beezer : 5/24/2016 7:50 am : link

:)
She's young  
illmatic : 5/24/2016 8:18 am : link
but she's not that young anymore. At 20 or 21, whatever it is, she's certainly old enough to decide if she wants to have any kind of relationship with you and she's old enough to understand how you feel about the situation if you explain it to her. I'd just politely contact her again sometime while being very nice about it. Say that you know it's an awkward situation for everyone involved but you would like to get to know your half-sister sometime if at all possible. If she's not interested, it's not your fault and at least you tried. But even if she said yes and you two talked a little more, it wouldn't be some fairy tale brother/sister relationship or whatever you've been wanting. I don't think you'll ever have that with her so you might as well not even think like that. I'd say the best you could hope for is a little more communication and maybe eventually it won't be so weird for her. Assuming she accepts it in the first place which doesn't seem too likely, to be honest. I wouldn't even think about trying to meet her until she's actually talking to you for a while first via messaging or whatever. If she's not willing to do something as simple as send you a message and chat a little, she's definitely not willing to meet you in person.

But yeah, I would just reiterate to her why you want to get to know her. And that you won't pester her about it but if she decides against it, just tell her that she is always free to contact you and talk to you anytime she wants to. Leave the door open. Even if she's not comfortable now, she might be years from now and that's better than nothing. But like others have said, this whole thing is basically on her. The best you can do is explain your situation without it sounding weird or creepy and hope that it resonates with her enough that she wants to talk to you sometime. Just expect that it won't for the sake of your own feelings.
fkap: I'm all for the ERA, but this doesn't look symmetrical to me.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/24/2016 8:56 am : link
fkap said:
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whoa up on the male fecklessness bit. Momma was there for the conception, too. unless there was forced sex involved, both tango partners share the responsibility for what happened on the dance floor. This is the modern age. ERA and all that.
Maybe I missed something: Was Mom married too? Of course they share responsibility for the affair, but they might not share it equally. That seems like a topic for a separate discussion. Anyway, my point about Dad's creepiness was a peripheral one. I should have just given you the +1 and left it at that.
pics  
spike : 5/24/2016 9:24 am : link
or gtfo
honestly  
spike : 5/24/2016 9:27 am : link
she is probably not ready for the drama and emotions that are about to hit her

Give her some space and some time....
My recommendation is  
SwirlingEddie : 5/24/2016 9:49 am : link
to work on your issues with your own therapist and to send a sincere letter to this young woman inviting her to reach out to you when and if she feels the need or curiosity. Let her do this because and when it's right for her.

I know you want this relationship for your own reasons, and that's fine, but in my experience you are much more likely to get a positive result if you let her come to you on her own terms.

Good luck!
Who does she live with?  
Bramton1 : 5/24/2016 10:14 am : link
I know you share the same Dad. Should I assume that she lives with her Mom? Does she know her Dad? Obviously that's how you can show that connection, but if her relationship with her dad is the same as with you, that won't really help.

You could possibly send a copy of your birth certificate which would have your father's name on it, but there no guarantee that he is on her birth certificate.

Obviously, the hardest and most awkward part of this is that this connection was created through infidelity. You don't want to introduce yourself with "Hi, your mom was my dad's mistress!" but it's very well implied by the circumstances. And that is going to put up some automatic defensive boundaries up for her.

There's also this creepy thing where if you send her an email, it's understood that you scanned her Facebook to get the information you needed. That screams "stalker," even if it isn't. Another defensive wall.

My advice is to talk to your father. There might be some type of correspondence between him and her mother to arrange for child support or anything else. If you can use that connection, you might be able to contact the mother and get help from her. IF she's willing to help, you probably can't have a better ally.

Whatever you decide to do, I would understand this. You have already tried once. If you try again and you're rejected, there can't be a third time. That will be it. She's 20. Decide if she's mature enough to handle this, and if she's at a point where she's interested in meeting new family. Like someone said, if she's in college, she's probably busy studying and partying and living the college life. She's asserting her independence, and adding another family anchor might not be what she's looking for right now. It's usually at some point after college where people's family life becomes more important again (either with their existing family or creating a new family).
RE: pics  
Scyber : 5/24/2016 10:19 am : link
In comment 12969009 spike said:
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or gtfo


^this.
Thanks everyone.  
giantgiantfan : 5/24/2016 2:55 pm : link
I've decided to wait a bit longer and let her get out of the early 20s stage before trying one last time. I know I didn't stop being so self-centered and start caring about family more until I was about 24. In the interim I'll bring this up with my father, which will be tough, but something that is long overdue and may be the best means.
RE: Thanks everyone.  
NYG27 : 5/24/2016 3:06 pm : link
giantgiantfan said:
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I've decided to wait a bit longer and let her get out of the early 20s stage before trying one last time. I know I didn't stop being so self-centered and start caring about family more until I was about 24. In the interim I'll bring this up with my father, which will be tough, but something that is long overdue and may be the best means.


+1

She has enough to worry about right now with going to college and trying to figure out her place in her world. Contacting her now would not create the best situation for a friendly relationship long term.

Speaking to your father, no matter how tough, is a good first step to get his thoughts on it. He must have kept in touch with the mother and his daughter via child support and what not. He can give you his opinion on what to try to do or not.

Regardless of what he says, good ideal to wait till her mid 20's. She'll be more mature and hopefully open to getting to know another possible sibling.
Speak with your Dad and make contact  
Giants2012 : 5/24/2016 3:31 pm : link
Seems pretty straight forward rather than lurking on FB with semi-contact at various intervals.

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huygens20 : 5/24/2016 3:58 pm : link
If shes in college still, nows a good time to send her a message.

because shes done with classes very soon (most end by late may).

Send her a message in june, she'll be on break.
Talk to your Dad  
Phil in LA : 5/24/2016 4:08 pm : link
he's the link between you and your sister.
Work on YOUR issues  
Dave on the UWS : 5/24/2016 7:52 pm : link
starting with your relationship with your dad. Try to come to terms with your feelings towards him. That's tour path forward and if a connection with her is possible it will come through your dad he's the binding tie. Any other path would be forced and uncomfortable. You have to look at it from her point of view. What might she be feeling. What do you represent to her? Remember her parents from what you're telling us, we're never married. I would think here is anger, bitterness , resentment, hurt, sadness etc on her part. She would have to get past all that to connect with you. It's all Family of Origin work which is messy and hard.
I would wait a few  
NJGiantFan84 : 5/24/2016 9:06 pm : link
Years. Many people greatly mature in the years following college. She may still be uncomfortable with the conversation. I think if it were me, waiting until 24-25 would be the best move.

I also think sending a letter in the mail is best, if possible. It makes it more personal. So many scammers on the internet people are naturally suspicious.

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