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Geremy is a bright guy,” Manning said. “He knows the offense very well. He studies hard. He’s really in tune with what his assignments are. He’s got great size. He’s one of our bigger receivers. You can move him around and put him in different spots. He’s going to be really keyed into what his assignment is, so that’s always helpful. Hopefully he can step up and get on a roll and make some plays for us come game time.” |
The other guy is Apple as far as I am concerned.
Let Apple win a few Super Bowls then I will call him Eli.
Not OBJ alone but
Davis,Shepard,Lewis,KJ,Dable, will be tough at contract time.
Not OBJ alone but
Davis,Shepard,Lewis,KJ,Dable, will be tough at contract time.
Shadow, that's a pretty silly comment. We don't need "Hall of Fame WRs" to be competitive (or win Super Bowls); we need guys who will work hard and make the most of the opportunities that come their way.
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With all these Hall of Fame WRs
Not OBJ alone but
Davis,Shepard,Lewis,KJ,Dable, will be tough at contract time.
Shadow, that's a pretty silly comment. We don't need "Hall of Fame WRs" to be competitive (or win Super Bowls); we need guys who will work hard and make the most of the opportunities that come their way.
It's sarcasm
Right now we have OBJ,that's it.
Harris is a ST guy,Cruz is a ? We have no Idea what Sheppard is, now Davis who could get on the Field last year is this great Addition?
Eli is trying to build up the Young man but right now the WRs are a huge crap shoot. Lewis,Mayes Dable all huge ?. Eli will have to be the man yet again or we don't win shit.
I am secretly hoping Davis steps up big and can challenge for those #3 and 4 spots.
No, I didn't misquote him. I copied exactly what was written at Giants.com.
Oh, and you're welcome.
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He said he has to "GET A ROLE" not "GET ON A ROLL". Your welcome.
No, I didn't misquote him. I copied exactly what was written at Giants.com.
Oh, and you're welcome.
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
For me it's "he catches the ball" 1st, runs good and correct routes 2nd, and gets open 3rd.
I mean, Sinorice Moss and Jerrel Jernigan got open... maybe in the wrong spots on the field, and with unreliable hands...
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Yes and because of it the media is ripping the Giants drafts. So with the added pressure to our GM and his team,guys like Davis and Hart have been singled out already and will be locks on the roster.
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
Davis was a 6th round pick, which guarantees him nothing, unlike Moss, Barden, and Jernigan, who were drafted much higher. Regardless, "scholarship" has nothing to do with it. You don't give up on a guy after one year who's 6-2. ran a 4.59 at his Pro Day, and looked like a natural hands-catcher at the Combine. You look to see if he's put in the time and effort to improve his craft, which is exactly what the Giants are doing. What happened last year says absolutely nothing, especially in combination with a new coaching staff.
At the same time, they're also in the process of evaluating the other WRs on their roster. Again, this is exactly what they're supposed to be doing in May. Every WR is going to get a fair shake, now, and in training camp.
WTF man...don't be dense.
Question now is can he perform with live bullets flying at NFL game speed?
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So he gets the scholarship treatment. Like Jernigan and Barden,Moss before him.
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
Well, he was a 6th round reach by Reese from that football powerhouse Connectorsomething.....most thought he would be undrafted....he was big with no speed...
Eli saying something nice abut a draft pick? When was the last time he ever said something bad about one? Jernigan? Barden? Beckum?
The WR position is wide open, especially if Cruz comes up short, again.....if Shepard was bigger, I would think he was the replacement for Randle...but he looks more like a slot receiver replacement for Cruz...if so, who is that #2 Wr?
To count on a 6th rounder from Conn Ed is wishful thinking....
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
What did Victor Cruz do his rookie year in the NFL?
A "6th round reach." That's a good one. As if a 6th round pick is anything but a gamble.
Because football players, especially late-round picks, never get any better no matter how hard they work.
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Because football players, especially late-round picks, never get any better no matter how hard they work.
Jackson, Herman, Cox, McCants, Kuhn, Sash, JW, Scott, Dodge, Tracy, Wright, Woodson X2, Henderson, Koets, Johnson, etc., I'm sure they all gave it their all....just not talented enough....
You have to go all the way back to 2007 for a 6th rounder or higher to show something, Bradshaw, and he only lasted that long because of off the field problems....
There have been some that have worked hard, and made something of themselves....This was a guy that we probably could have got as an UDFA....We need a big WR...but someone with a little more speed/separation....
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
Let's parse this.
"Hopefully he can make some plays..." Not, "the kid's a playmaker," or "I have total confidence in Geremy," just "Hopefully he can do something." It's a wish, but not praise.
Eli is actually quite good at being noncommittal and vague while talking to the press. He talks a lot but says very little. It's a good skill for dealing with the press, especially in a big media market like New York. It's easy to mistake his long-ish, insubstantial responses for something meaty, but they're not.
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So he gets the scholarship treatment. Like Jernigan and Barden,Moss before him.
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
Your comments are stupid. You are stupid. Stupid.
Hey any Big Foot happenings?
Let's parse this.
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Geremy is a bright guy,” Manning said. “He knows the offense very well. He studies hard. He’s really in tune with what his assignments are.
This is almost damning with faint praise. Doesn't say he's great at getting open, or gets great separation, or anything else that has to do with actually playing. But he says Davis knows the playbook really well, which is necessary but not sufficient.
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He’s got great size. He’s one of our bigger receivers.
Factual. Yes, he's big. Bigger than most of the other receivers. But that's not praise, just an observation.
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You can move him around and put him in different spots. He’s going to be really keyed into what his assignment is, so that’s always helpful.
So he's versatile, which isn't the same as good, and he still knows the playbook.
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Hopefully he can step up and get on a roll and make some plays for us come game time.”
"Hopefully he can make some plays..." Not, "the kid's a playmaker," or "I have total confidence in Geremy," just "Hopefully he can do something." It's a wish, but not praise.
Eli is actually quite good at being noncommittal and vague while talking to the press. He talks a lot but says very little. It's a good skill for dealing with the press, especially in a big media market like New York. It's easy to mistake his long-ish, insubstantial responses for something meaty, but they're not.
Eli is a graduate of the Jeter school of public comments.
Year 1 - 1 for 12 yds
Year 2 - 16 for 263 yds
Year 3 - 27 for 360 yds
but year 4, he burst forth with 79 for 1183 yds. According to some here, he should have been tossed out on his ear after his first year.
Year 1 - 1 for 12 yds
Year 2 - 16 for 263 yds
Year 3 - 27 for 360 yds
but year 4, he burst forth with 79 for 1183 yds. According to some here, he should have been tossed out on his ear after his first year.
Davis was 2 catches for 21 yards as a rookie...
So he's on the way to double Toomey's production over the next decade, right?
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
It's just amazing how people on this site can just write a guy off after their rookie season. A sixth round pick doesn't immediately crack the starting lineup, and you know with absolute certainty, not only what his ceiling is, but also that he's reached it in one season? Wow.
I think Davis is going to surprise some people here before it's over, barring injury of course. When you doubt a Uconn Husky, you lose...
Year 1 - 1 for 12 yds
Year 2 - 16 for 263 yds
Year 3 - 27 for 360 yds
but year 4, he burst forth with 79 for 1183 yds. According to some here, he should have been tossed out on his ear after his first year.
I hope Geremy Davis is a find, but I'll go back to my nostrum that speaks volumes during the Reese lean years and good years both: players who can play see the field, those that don't, or dress and play sparingly, be careful about pushing their chips to the center of the table. It's not been so hard to figure out.
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
I cannot stand Randle as a player but it's silly to say that a late round rookie WR couldn't beat out a veteran former 2nd round pick (who granted, made awful mental mistakes), so the rookie must suck.
I hope Geremy Davis is a find, but I'll go back to my nostrum that speaks volumes during the Reese lean years and good years both: players who can play see the field, those that don't, or dress and play sparingly, be careful about pushing their chips to the center of the table. It's not been so hard to figure out.
I agree that Eli is the master at measured responses, but he also doesn't just single guys out with positive comments. I have a feeling that Davis is the darkhorse to crack the top 3 at WR.
With that said Davis was inactive at the end of last year.
If Davis used the off-season to address why that was, he could surprise.
That said, he's had 1 yr and was a 5th rd pick.
He deserves a bit of a longer leash and he may show something.
Arnie, you continue to provide evidence that you're the biggest moron connected to the Internet. Congrats douchebag!
I get tired of the preseason Reese induced rah rah crap. If he was a FA last year he would be gone. So he will burn a roster spot for another year. He couldn't beat out White or Randle last year,that says a lot. If a guy like Lewis or Mayes shines then they will be gone since we must keep Draft Picks first in the pecking order.
I guess you've never heard about Coughing having a proclivity to Coughing not playing rookies unless he had to.
I think the rap that you ascribe to TC (and, believe me, I'm no Homer Jones 45) is because he was saddled for so many years with so many draft picks who could not play: again, if they didn't see the field early, they rarely, rarely ever did because there was no talent and/or no will. The Giants' drafts and rosters after 2008 speak for themselves.
I think the rap that you ascribe to TC (and, believe me, I'm no Homer Jones 45) is because he was saddled for so many years with so many draft picks who could not play: again, if they didn't see the field early, they rarely, rarely ever did because there was no talent and/or no will. The Giants' drafts and rosters after 2008 speak for themselves.
I'm excluding first rounders because you kind of expect them to contribute/start early.
I'll start from the top. So eliminate the first rounders in Odell, Pugh and Flowers (all of which were positions of need. Bradshaw was definitely in the rookie doghouse after one or two fumbles early on. Was only thrust into the lineup after Ward (and Ware?) got hurt in 07. Smith was a result of need (who else to play slot), Jacobs was a role player (he cultures how many TDs from Tiki btwn 05 and 06 because it was goal to go from the 5 when he actually ran with balls? Boss, Ballard, Tye. Need, need, need. Who exactly did they beat out for those jobs? Richburg? Colossal need...we played him out of position even!
That leaves Kennard and Hawkins as the only two who made it to the field and having beaten out vets. Hank was a 2nd rounder though (right?). Kennard really earned his spot as a starter.
A sixth round WR out of UConn who was playing behind ODB, possibly Cruz, Randle and Harris and even Myles White....that rookie isn't going get on the field under TC if he can help it. I doubt he was getting 2nd team reps. Hope he gets more of a chance this year
I don't know that I'd have him say anything. I don't know why he said what he said. I don't know if it was in response to a direct question about Davis, or about the WRs in general, or what? All I know is that it was printed at Giants.com and I thought it was worth re-posting here. Why? Because it isn't about Beckham, or Shepard, or even Cruz. It's about a 6th round pick who was barely a footnote in 2015, but who is obviously being given a huge opportunity in 2016, and by all accounts is making the most of it so far. That's it. If you want to dissect or parse everything Eli said about him, well, go ahead. I don't care. I think it's silly, but, whatever.
We've had numerous threads and comments from people who want the Giants to sign Anquan Boldin. Now Brian Hartline is the flavor of the month since he was cut by the Browns. I suspect that in the coming months, any WR of note who shakes loose from another team will merit his own "kick the tires" thread, too. Like the proverbial scorpion, it's in BBI's nature. However, as I (and others) have pointed out, the Giants don't seem to be in any kind of a rush to bring in a veteran WR, not at this stage of the game. It seems to me that right now they're focusing on finding just what they have in-house. Geremy Davis is part of that. Again, that's it.
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more or less nails it; Eli is giving measured kudos and does not want to go on record with anything negative. It was the "hopefully" that made me assess it a bit more critically. Obviously, Eli doesn't make the calls on WR playing time, and he's not going to but heads with BM or his OC or WR coach. What would you have him say Klaatu?
I don't know that I'd have him say anything. I don't know why he said what he said. I don't know if it was in response to a direct question about Davis, or about the WRs in general, or what? All I know is that it was printed at Giants.com and I thought it was worth re-posting here. Why? Because it isn't about Beckham, or Shepard, or even Cruz. It's about a 6th round pick who was barely a footnote in 2015, but who is obviously being given a huge opportunity in 2016, and by all accounts is making the most of it so far. That's it. If you want to dissect or parse everything Eli said about him, well, go ahead. I don't care. I think it's silly, but, whatever.
We've had numerous threads and comments from people who want the Giants to sign Anquan Boldin. Now Brian Hartline is the flavor of the month since he was cut by the Browns. I suspect that in the coming months, any WR of note who shakes loose from another team will merit his own "kick the tires" thread, too. Like the proverbial scorpion, it's in BBI's nature. However, as I (and others) have pointed out, the Giants don't seem to be in any kind of a rush to bring in a veteran WR, not at this stage of the game. It seems to me that right now they're focusing on finding just what they have in-house. Geremy Davis is part of that. Again, that's it.
Very good summary Klaatu.
I think the rap that you ascribe to TC (and, believe me, I'm no Homer Jones 45) is because he was saddled for so many years with so many draft picks who could not play: again, if they didn't see the field early, they rarely, rarely ever did because there was no talent and/or no will. The Giants' drafts and rosters after 2008 speak for themselves.
Big problem was gearing down for his cuts. This can be a fatal flaw if due to lack of flexibility. It can also be something that he did not need to work on in college due to the other superior qualities. I suspect we will soon see.
With OBJ, we are not requiring a #1 WR. If this guy can get open against single coverage, or find the hole in a zone and sit down, that is all we really need.