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Bills GM Whaley doesn't think humans should play football

Big Blue '56 : 5/24/2016 4:49 pm
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Asked during an appearance on WGR 550 whether Bills G.M. Doug Whaley believes receiver Sammy Watkins is injury prone, Whaley painted with the broadest possible brush.

“This is the game of football,” Whaley said, via Harry Scull Jr. of the Buffalo News. “Injuries are part of it. It’s a violent game that I personally don’t think humans are supposed to play.”

That’s the kind of statement that could prompt plenty of humans to prevent their offspring from playing football. Making the words even more jarring is that Whaley drove directly into a ditch under the guise of trying to justify his faith in Watkins, for whom Whaley gave up the ninth overall pick in 2014, a first-round pick in 2015, and a fourth-round pick in 2015 to acquire.


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I don't disagree  
ATL_Giants : 5/24/2016 4:55 pm : link
Football field collisions can be very traumatic to the body, especially the head (skull/brain/neck). In Pop Warner the impact may be reasonable, but in the NFL...?
bizarre  
Les in TO : 5/24/2016 5:01 pm : link
comment from someone whose livelihood depends on humans playing football.
New equipment required  
Gman11 : 5/24/2016 5:02 pm : link
for next season.

Sorry  
Gman11 : 5/24/2016 5:02 pm : link
Didn't realize that pic was so big.
flag football  
spike : 5/24/2016 5:40 pm : link
will be the new NFFL
The irony is even with those bubbles  
jcn56 : 5/24/2016 5:43 pm : link
You'd still have the same risk from concussions/CTE...
RE: The irony is even with those bubbles  
MotownGIANTS : 5/24/2016 6:05 pm : link
In comment 12969738 jcn56 said:
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You'd still have the same risk from concussions/CTE...



Exactly
I agree with him  
Bill L : 5/24/2016 6:21 pm : link
Not that it won't prevent me from watching and enjoying it. I'd have been a great one for sitting in the stands and munching on popcorn at the Coliseum.
Forgetting Concussions/CTEs,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/24/2016 6:39 pm : link
think about the various joints of the body. Do you think nature intended for Knees, shoulders, elbows, wrists and ankles to be bent the way they're bent(with incredible force mind you) in such a brutal way?
To be perfectly honest,  
Bill L : 5/24/2016 6:47 pm : link
If I had a kid right now I am not at all sure that I would sign the permission slip.

Of course he would be a soccer kid s yeah, so it would never cre up....
RE: To be perfectly honest,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/24/2016 6:54 pm : link
In comment 12969803 Bill L said:
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If I had a kid right now I am not at all sure that I would sign the permission slip.

Of course he would be a soccer kid s yeah, so it would never cre up....


Hasn't soccer come under some scrutiny lately with the heading? I don't follow it, so I'm asking from the perspective of what's been reported...
RE: bizarre  
Rick5 : 5/24/2016 6:56 pm : link
In comment 12969691 Les in TO said:
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comment from someone whose livelihood depends on humans playing football.

Yes. A very weird thing for an NFL GM to say publically.
RE: RE: bizarre  
Rick5 : 5/24/2016 6:58 pm : link
In comment 12969814 Rick5 said:
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comment from someone whose livelihood depends on humans playing football.


Yes. A very weird thing for an NFL GM to say publically.

Or even publicly. I am brain dead today.
RE: Forgetting Concussions/CTEs,  
madgiantscow009 : 5/24/2016 6:58 pm : link
In comment 12969791 Big Blue '56 said:
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think about the various joints of the body. Do you think nature intended for Knees, shoulders, elbows, wrists and ankles to be bent the way they're bent(with incredible force mind you) in such a brutal way?


nature didn't intend for anything we do in the modern world.
Should ban boxing and rugby  
mrvax : 5/24/2016 6:59 pm : link
Get these guys playing a decent game of crochet and badminton.

RE: RE: Forgetting Concussions/CTEs,  
mrvax : 5/24/2016 7:01 pm : link
In comment 12969819 madgiantscow009 said:
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nature didn't intend for anything we do in the modern world.


Imagine hunting for bison with only a bow & arrow?
RE: RE: RE: Forgetting Concussions/CTEs,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/24/2016 7:02 pm : link
In comment 12969823 mrvax said:
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nature didn't intend for anything we do in the modern world.



Imagine hunting for bison with only a bow & arrow?


Kinky! :)
RE: RE: To be perfectly honest,  
Bill L : 5/24/2016 7:04 pm : link
In comment 12969809 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12969803 Bill L said:


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If I had a kid right now I am not at all sure that I would sign the permission slip.

Of course he would be a soccer kid s yeah, so it would never cre up....



Hasn't soccer come under some scrutiny lately with the heading? I don't follow it, so I'm asking from the perspective of what's been reported...
some, butt it's still unresolved afaik. Nothing is without its risks. It on balance, I would rather they play soccer.
Soccer has no risk  
Patrick77 : 5/24/2016 7:10 pm : link
Soccer is played by Europeans. Europeans are notorious pussies. Soccer is safe.



Kidding of course
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Big Blue '56 : 5/24/2016 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12969825 Bill L said:
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In comment 12969803 Bill L said:


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If I had a kid right now I am not at all sure that I would sign the permission slip.

Of course he would be a soccer kid s yeah, so it would never cre up....



Hasn't soccer come under some scrutiny lately with the heading? I don't follow it, so I'm asking from the perspective of what's been reported...

some, butt it's still unresolved afaik. Nothing is without its risks. It on balance, I would rather they play soccer.


Yeah, I've told this many times, but my son who lettered in several sports was given an ultimatum by me which was very simple: You want to play High School football? Go for it, but ONLY as a punter and/or kicker. That was his choice. He opted NOT to play at all and instead pursued his other passions, baseball and basketball..
He's  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 5/24/2016 7:35 pm : link
probably right.
Anyone done research on how hockey  
stockton : 5/24/2016 7:50 pm : link
players are affected relative to football with regards to head injuries? Especially in kids/young adults.

Something I've been meaning to look into but haven't got around to it yet.
Yeah, I grew up with no helmets in the NHL.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/24/2016 7:58 pm : link
I think they became mandatory in the 1970s..
I thought hockey players  
mrvax : 5/24/2016 8:05 pm : link
only lost their teeth.
Hint?  
Doomster : 5/24/2016 9:18 pm : link
RE: RE: Forgetting Concussions/CTEs,
mrvax : 7:01 pm : link : reply
In comment 12969819 madgiantscow009 said:
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Imagine hunting for bison with only a bow & arrow?

And the arrow has a suction cup on the end....

Is it quite possible, we have a GM hinting at the end of the game due to a monster concussion lawsuit in the future?
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Scyber : 5/24/2016 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12969809 Big Blue '56 said:
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If I had a kid right now I am not at all sure that I would sign the permission slip.

Of course he would be a soccer kid s yeah, so it would never cre up....



Hasn't soccer come under some scrutiny lately with the heading? I don't follow it, so I'm asking from the perspective of what's been reported...


Yes and youth soccer has banned heading for kids 10 and under. Kids 11-13 are only allowed to head the ball during practice, not in games.
Doesn't Think Humans Should Play Football?  
OntheRoad : 5/24/2016 10:14 pm : link
Well who does he think should play football then?
RE: The irony is even with those bubbles  
Fred in Atlanta : 5/25/2016 6:00 am : link
In comment 12969738 jcn56 said:
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You'd still have the same risk from concussions/CTE...

A recent story in Atlanta had someone playing in those bubbles had a collision and ended with severe head injury. I believe he is in a coma.
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Fred in Atlanta : 5/25/2016 6:04 am : link
In comment 12970189 Fred in Atlanta said:
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You'd still have the same risk from concussions/CTE...


A recent story in Atlanta had someone playing in those bubbles had a collision and ended with severe head injury. I believe he is in a coma.


Sorry not in coma, but badly injured.
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8th grade was the last year my son played and  
GiantsUA : 5/25/2016 7:55 am : link
I am not sorry.

Mid season he banged his head on artificial turf coming around the end and diving at the QB - got up shaking his head and the coach immediately pulled him. Had to go through the concussion protocol.

His main focus is Basketball.

Sorry Football, you can't have him, 15 years old now - 6'3 and about 200 lbs, still growing.

Humans have a very long history of doing things they should not do  
Chef : 5/25/2016 8:30 am : link
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Here's what I think he meant:  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/25/2016 9:05 am : link
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It’s a violent game that I personally don’t think the human body was intended to play.

Even his actual words are a long way from "Humans shouldn't play football."
GiantsUA  
Csonka : 5/25/2016 9:34 am : link
Same story here. My son is a big kid with a body built for football. Just his head wasn't.

Stopped playing football in 8th grade after getting a concussion for the 3rd year in a row. After the last one, the coach didn't want him going to the doctor. "Just sit out this week. If you go back to the doctor they'll make you miss the rest of the season". That was it for my son.
The NFL and its 32 teams  
giantgiantfan : 5/25/2016 10:25 am : link
should really step up and pony up 10s of millions to research a helmet that will seriously mitigate concussions. Even a helmet that cut concussions in half could save some of these dudes lives. I know this thread isn't specifically about that, but concussions are obviously the most destructive aspect.
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Big Blue '56 : 5/25/2016 10:26 am : link
In comment 12970041 Scyber said:
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In comment 12969803 Bill L said:


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If I had a kid right now I am not at all sure that I would sign the permission slip.

Of course he would be a soccer kid s yeah, so it would never cre up....



Hasn't soccer come under some scrutiny lately with the heading? I don't follow it, so I'm asking from the perspective of what's been reported...



Yes and youth soccer has banned heading for kids 10 and under. Kids 11-13 are only allowed to head the ball during practice, not in games.


Scyber, thanks
RE: Here's what I think he meant:  
Big Blue '56 : 5/25/2016 10:30 am : link
In comment 12970324 Big Blue Blogger said:
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It’s a violent game that I personally don’t think the human body was intended to play.


Even his actual words are a long way from "Humans shouldn't play football."


They're not a LONG WAY OFF, imo..His personal opinion is that it's a game the person probably shouldn't play. That's closer than you infer, imv
Regardless of what he meant,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/25/2016 10:44 am : link
it will be spun far more towards your point than any other in the coming days..:)
Stop with the helmet holy grail  
CaptSehorn : 5/25/2016 11:04 am : link
No helmet can stop your brain from sloshing around in your skull on deceleration.
They don't  
JerseyCityJoe : 5/25/2016 11:05 am : link
Pro football players are a breed apart. Supermen.
RE: Regardless of what he meant,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/25/2016 2:18 pm : link
In comment 12970535 Big Blue '56 said:
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it will be spun far more towards your point than any other in the coming days..:)


And here it is: Whaley: "Poor choice of words" to say humans shouldn't play football.
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In the context of what he was saying  
steve in ky : 5/25/2016 2:25 pm : link
I think he meant that the human body is not made to withstand the physical demands football places on it and so no Sammy Watkins isn't injury prone but that injuries are going to occur and that's part of the game.
Of course, that has to be it,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/25/2016 2:29 pm : link
but it's far more fun throwing the barb, needle, grizzsh(sp?) at B3

:)
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