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NFT: NBA Draft Underclassman Deadline

Anakim : 5/24/2016 11:43 pm
More than a dozen underclassmen are undecided as to whether to stay in the draft or return to school. Considering the Knicks have no picks this year and very few young players on the roster, we may be a tempting destination for those players that go undrafted. Additionally, the Knicks may be able to get one of these talented guys later in the draft.

Guys who recently decided that they will remain in the draft: SG Isaiah Whitehead of Seton Hall; Ben Bentil of Providence

Guys who recently decided that they will return to school: Nigel Hayes of Wisconsin; Josh Hart of Villanova; Trevon Bluiett of Xavier; SG Malik Newman of Mississippi State; Amida Brimah and Rodney Purvis of UConn


A few guys who must decide by tomorrow (Wednesday):


JAMES BLACKMON (INDIANA)

ISAIAH BRISCOE (KENTUCKY)

DILLON BROOKS (OREGON)

TYLER DORSEY (OREGON)

MARCUS LEE (KENTUCKY)

CHINANU ONUAKU (LOUISVILLE)

CALEB SWANIGAN (PURDUE)

MELO TRIMBLE (MARYLAND)

TROY WILLIAMS (INDIANA)
Id love  
NJGiantFan84 : 5/24/2016 11:48 pm : link
For the Knicks to snag Whitehead. He could be everything they lack right now.
Of course they would have to find a  
NJGiantFan84 : 5/24/2016 11:48 pm : link
Second rounder somehow.
With  
Jon in NYC : 5/24/2016 11:55 pm : link
Nigel coming back we should be a top 15 team at worst.

Pretty hyped.
RE: Of course they would have to find a  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 12:01 am : link
In comment 12970143 NJGiantFan84 said:
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Second rounder somehow.


Right. Maybe they could buy one?
Yeah I think  
NJGiantFan84 : 5/25/2016 12:09 am : link
Buying is their best bet. I just looked up their trade from last year. They got Hermangomez with the fifth pick in the 2nd round for two future second rounders. They could probably do something similar again, especially with Boston who has 8 picks this year.
Glad Josh Hart is returning for 'Nova. He wasn't ready.  
Crispino : 5/25/2016 7:34 am : link
Puts us right back in the top 5 category for next year with a chance to defend our championship.
RE: With  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/25/2016 8:07 am : link
In comment 12970145 Jon in NYC said:
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Nigel coming back we should be a top 15 team at worst.

Pretty hyped.


Yep, Wisconsin is a Big 10 favorite and should be a top 10-15 mainstay all year. Going to be a tough team to beat.
Melo is such a strange case  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/25/2016 8:30 am : link
Obviously he wants to be gone, but he broke down last year and his game deteriorated, so he should stay if possible. He's also made some comments implying that he feels the fan base has been unfair to him (considering he saved the coach and the program). If he's stays, they are a tournament team. If not all bets are off.

And wasn't Malik Newman supposed to be a slam-dunk one-and-done guy?
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JayBinQueens : 5/25/2016 9:17 am : link
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Oregon's Dillon Brooks is headed back to school, and the Ducks could be really, really good next season
RE: Melo is such a strange case  
Jon in NYC : 5/25/2016 9:32 am : link
In comment 12970279 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Obviously he wants to be gone, but he broke down last year and his game deteriorated, so he should stay if possible. He's also made some comments implying that he feels the fan base has been unfair to him (considering he saved the coach and the program). If he's stays, they are a tournament team. If not all bets are off.

And wasn't Malik Newman supposed to be a slam-dunk one-and-done guy?


Yeah, Newman's recruitment was really weird. He and Stone were supposedly a package deal for a long time, and then that all fell apart out of nowhere. Not sure how he ended up at Miss St., which is far from a bball powerhouse.
UVA made Michael Porter's final 5  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 9:39 am : link
He's more than likely going to Washington, but hey, I can dream.

Lorenzo Romar has been on a recruiting tear lately, which is just bizarre considering that UW has accomplished absolutely nothing in recent years.
RE: UVA made Michael Porter's final 5  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/25/2016 9:53 am : link
In comment 12970387 Greg from LI said:
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He's more than likely going to Washington, but hey, I can dream.

Lorenzo Romar has been on a recruiting tear lately, which is just bizarre considering that UW has accomplished absolutely nothing in recent years.


Nike.
RE: Melo is such a strange case  
Boy Cord : 5/25/2016 10:18 am : link
In comment 12970279 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Obviously he wants to be gone, but he broke down last year and his game deteriorated, so he should stay if possible. He's also made some comments implying that he feels the fan base has been unfair to him (considering he saved the coach and the program). If he's stays, they are a tournament team. If not all bets are off.

And wasn't Malik Newman supposed to be a slam-dunk one-and-done guy?


I don't see MD as an NCAA tourney team next year even with Melo. Dodd/Ceko at C. I noticed they just signed a graduate transfer for the 4. Nickens underwhelmed last year. Wiley coming off of injury. Brantley at PG. Two four star recruits, one of which is a PG. I see them finishing below .500. Long way off, but I have no expectations.
RE: UVA made Michael Porter's final 5  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/25/2016 10:25 am : link
In comment 12970387 Greg from LI said:
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He's more than likely going to Washington, but hey, I can dream.

Lorenzo Romar has been on a recruiting tear lately, which is just bizarre considering that UW has accomplished absolutely nothing in recent years.


Romar hired his dad as an assistant coach... that ol' horseshit move. Fuck em... they still can't beat Gonzaga. Speaking of which, Karnowski has decided to return to Gonzaga for his 5th season (medical redshirt).
Don't see Troy William's role  
giantsfan44ab : 5/25/2016 10:48 am : link
in the NBA. Him and Blackmon are 2nd rounders at best right now.
well, yeah, I know what's going on with Porter  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 11:06 am : link
Romar has been friends with his dad for many years anyway. He's actually Porter Jr.'s godfather.

Doesn't explain how Romar pulled Markelle Fultz all the way across the country from DeMatha to UW, though. That one stunned me.
RE: Don't see Troy William's role  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 11:57 am : link
In comment 12970541 giantsfan44ab said:
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in the NBA. Him and Blackmon are 2nd rounders at best right now.


Gregg DoyelVerified account ‏@GreggDoyelStar
IU junior Troy Williams staying in the NBA draft, a source close to the former Oak Hill standout told me.
Makai Mason  
Vin R : 5/25/2016 12:02 pm : link
Staying with Yale
Nice.  
Jon in NYC : 5/25/2016 12:03 pm : link
Big blow to IU.
College football question for Greg and Jon (digression),  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 12:16 pm : link
Greg, what do you think of Micah Kiser's pro prospects? Does he project well to the NFL?


Jon, what do you think of Jack Cichy's potential? The guy abused Cody Kessler and USC when they played in their Bowl game. Definitely caught my attention.



Personally, my favorite LB is Raekwon McMillan of Ohio State.
Marcus Lee is staying in school, but transferring  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 12:20 pm : link
Adam Zagoria ‏@AdamZagoria
Marcus Lee is withdrawing from the Draft and will transfer from Kentucky, school says. Lotta bigs coming in there.


Brimah and Purvis  
Kevin in CT : 5/25/2016 12:25 pm : link
Coming back is huge. UConn is bringing in a top 5 recruiting class along with Terry Larrier replacing Hamilton. This team could be special.
Oregon  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/25/2016 12:40 pm : link
getting Brooks and Dorsey back is big. They and Arizona will have some battles in the Pac 12 next season.

nothing shady  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/25/2016 12:43 pm : link
about what's going on in Washington. Romar and Porter's dad go way back and Porter was an assistant coach of the Mizzou women so it's not as if he were just some random dad who got brought on to secure a commitment.

Kiser had a very nice season  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 12:48 pm : link
Not sure that he's NFL material. Quick kid, agile, a bit undersized. He's listed at 240 but I suspect he plays closer to 230. We'll see how he adapts to Bronco Mendenhall's 3-3-5 this season. I think he'll thrive in it.
Paul, like I said, I understand the deal with Porter  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 12:49 pm : link
But I'm still shocked that he got Fultz to come. A top 20 kid from DeMatha going to a nondescript UW program is unusual.
RE: Nice.  
giantsfan44ab : 5/25/2016 12:56 pm : link
In comment 12970708 Jon in NYC said:
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Big blow to IU.


Eh not too big I don't think. IU was pre-ranked in the top 25 with the assumption of his leaving. He's a head scratching played, he came up big in the tourney tho but his wild style of playing certainly costed them a few games.
per his wiki  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/25/2016 12:58 pm : link
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After the NBA, Romar played and coached for Athletes in Action. Romar was then hired as an assistant coach at UCLA under coach Jim Harrick from 1992 to 1996, and was credited with recruiting many of the players on the 1995 national championship team. Romar became the head coach at Pepperdine University and then at Saint Louis University before taking the job at the University of Washington in 2002.

Romar is credited for turning around the sagging fortunes of the University of Washington basketball program and generating new enthusiasm for the program. In 2004, Washington qualified for the NCAA Tournament for the first time in five years. In 2005, Washington won the Pac-10 Tournament and earned a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. The Huskies made their way to the Sweet Sixteen for the first time since 1998 but were ousted by Louisville 93-79. In 2006, Washington earned a second consecutive appearance to the Sweet Sixteen before losing in overtime to Connecticut 98-92.

Romar is known by his fellow coaches as one of the top basketball recruiters in the country. Additionally, he is respected as a genuine and optimistic person and was once voted "the opposing coach players would most like to play for" in a Pac-10 poll.[1] In March 2006, Romar was given the prestigious Coach Wooden "Keys to Life" award for outstanding character.[1]


Seems like he is good at what he does. Still impressive that he got Fultz. Maybe Fultz is dumb and told him that DeMatha and UW are in the same state.
RE: College football question for Greg and Jon (digression),  
Jon in NYC : 5/25/2016 12:59 pm : link
In comment 12970731 Anakim said:
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Greg, what do you think of Micah Kiser's pro prospects? Does he project well to the NFL?


Jon, what do you think of Jack Cichy's potential? The guy abused Cody Kessler and USC when they played in their Bowl game. Definitely caught my attention.



Personally, my favorite LB is Raekwon McMillan of Ohio State.


Tough to figure out if Cichy is a product of the system or not. He got a lot of free runs on Kessler because of the way the defense was designed.

Aranda was a damn genius. Huge loss there.

Either way, I believe he is just a RS Soph, and I doubt he'll leave early, so I wouldn't hold your breath on him.
Eh... even if the dad and Romar were best freaking friends,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/25/2016 1:09 pm : link
it's still a mighty big coincidence that Porter Sr gets a job just as his son is a few months from embarking on his senior season. Romar has been there almost 15 years and just this year offers him a job?

Doesn't really matter though... the kid will probably be like all of Washington's other high-profile recruits and go pro or transfer after 1 or 2 years.
he offerend  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/25/2016 1:13 pm : link
him the job last year and Porter turned it down. He offered him the job again this year. Porter's younger brother ('18) already committed to Washington.

They are very close. They were in each other's weddings. He is Jr's godfather. I don't see anything shady about this.

Does hiring Porter Sr. help recruit the two Porter kids? Sure, but it also benefits everyone. Benefits the dad to be able to potentially coach his two songs. He gets to to a better program, and he gets to coach with one of his best friends.
Romar had a nice run at Washington a while back  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 1:15 pm : link
But they've been mediocre for a while. Just slightly over .500 in the last four seasons with only two NIT appearances. I have read that he likely would have been fired if not for impressive recent recruiting, and if he can't win even with the talent he's brought in he still might go.

Which would be fine with me, because then Porter might decide to join his best friend Kyle Guy in Charlottesville. I am so damned excited to see our freshmen next season. I expect some bumps in the road early in the season with all the turnover, but this might be the most talented Hoos roster since the Sampson days.
It's not Calipari-Dominican National Team level of shamelessness,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/25/2016 1:21 pm : link
but it's hardly a coincidence.
Syracuse  
B in ALB : 5/25/2016 1:25 pm : link
would have had a really good squad next season had Richardson decided to stay. It's a real blow to a team that has been murdered by early draft entrants. With their new additions up front and in the backcourt they might crack the T25.
Blossomgame goes back to Clemson  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 2:58 pm : link
. That's a bit surprising, no? I've seen a couple of mocks that has him go in the first. He also seemingly had a good Combine.
Clemson could be really good this year  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 3:01 pm : link
That might have motivated Blossomgame to return.
just because it isn't a coincidence  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/25/2016 3:12 pm : link
doesn't mean there is anything untoward, shady, or questionable about it.

Not official yet  
Pete in MD : 5/25/2016 3:40 pm : link
but I'm hearing Melo Trimble is staying at Maryland.
RE: Not official yet  
giantsfan44ab : 5/25/2016 3:53 pm : link
In comment 12971133 Pete in MD said:
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but I'm hearing Melo Trimble is staying at Maryland.


Pretty down on his pro prospects after his nice freshman year. He's not a pure PG at all and doesn't give much outside his shooting. Can see him staying all 4 of his years.
RE: Not official yet  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/25/2016 3:58 pm : link
In comment 12971133 Pete in MD said:
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but I'm hearing Melo Trimble is staying at Maryland.


That's the word but apparently he's still waffling until the last minute.
Briscoe will return to Kentucky.  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 9:22 pm : link
Onuaku will stay in the draft.
Swanigan back to Purdue.  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 9:23 pm : link
No word on Melo Trimble yet
Indiana has OG Anunoby to replace Troy Williams.  
Meats and Cheeses : 5/25/2016 9:34 pm : link
OG's a better player and going to play in the NBA unlike Troy. Not a bad loss for IU at all and they'll still be a Top 15 team.
STILL no announcement from Trimble  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/25/2016 9:57 pm : link
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RE: STILL no announcement from Trimble  
Anakim : 5/25/2016 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12971642 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Jon RothsteinVerified account
‏@JonRothstein
BREAKING: Melo Trimble is returning to Maryland, sources told @CBSSports.
I spoke too soon!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/25/2016 10:12 pm : link
Welcome back Melo!
Jackson to Maryland  
dep026 : 5/26/2016 11:33 am : link
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