NFT: Matz attack! Mets at Nats Day game!

Back a day so he'll now pitch Sunday VS Colon on the Sunday night game. Damn. Would have been sweet seeing Thor VS Kershaw on Saturday.

Mike Gianella ‎@MikeGianella
The guy who pitched 216 innings post-Tommy John and risked a nine figure payday by doing so quit on his teammates. lol, sure, geniuses.

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he flat out sucks right now. Gives his team no chance to win AND blowout the pen every 5 days.

He needs to go on the DL with a phantom injury or get sent down to the minors to work his shit out...

Let him clear his head. Let him start from scratch. Work on his mechanics and build up his arm again slowly in St. Lucie.

In comment 12970339 ZGiants98 said:

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Let him clear his head. Let him start from scratch. Work on his mechanics and build up his arm again slowly in St. Lucie.

Yep he needs an extended spring training. Too bad Wheeler cant come a month earlier

poll.
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might be on the verge of heating up or at least considered.

“It’s a little early,” John Ricco, the Mets’ assistant general manager, said. “We really haven’t had discussions about that. It’s probably in the back of everyone’s mind, maybe, but nothing that we’ve even discussed internally.”
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Michael Mayer ‎@themainemets
Steven Matz has a strike percentage of 68.6% this season, fourth highest in the major leagues among 137 qualified starting pitchers.

Mike Petriello ✔ ‎@mike_petriello
Even for Mets fans, the speed at which Harvey has gone from "LET HIM PITCH THE NINTH!" to "FIRE THE WIMP INTO THE SUN!" is stunning.

MLB Network Radio ‎@MLBNetworkRadio
Cuddyer says it's a confidence issue, not a physical issue, and wouldn't send Matt Harvey to the minor leagues

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Mike Petriello ✔ ‎@mike_petriello Even for Mets fans, the speed at which Harvey has gone from "LET HIM PITCH THE NINTH!" to "FIRE THE WIMP INTO THE SUN!" is stunning.

"Happy Harvey Day!" feels like it was just yesterday. Oh, how things change...

Every elite pitcher, including past Harvey, elicits oohs and aahs a number of times during a game when he completely dominates the batter. It's usually a strikeout pitch ... and we sit on our couches and ooh ... and aah. It's not one particular pitch in his arsenal, just the one he just threw. It buckles the batters knees or leaves him with a weak wave at the ball. The batter walks away looking at the pitcher and you can almost hear him thinking, "what the fuck?"

Harvey is not getting the movement on his pitches the way he used to. That's why he seems to have lost command. By the time the pitch reaches the plate it's not where he intended it to be. Add to that the lose of velocity on his fastball. He hasn't adjusted. He's confused.

Something's different, his arm angle, maybe his grip. Something in his mechanics has altered how the ball reacts. And now its become a mental thing as well because he hasn't processed the change.

What surprises me is that Dan Warthen hasn't picked up on Harvey's problem yet. It's mental, yes, but only because it was physical first.

There will be some oohs and aahs this afternoon.

Mets Game 46 of 162, @ WAS:

Granderson RF
Wright 3B
Conforto LF
Cespedes CF
Walker 2B
Cabrera SS
Campbell 1B
Rivera C
Matz P

and go catch the game. Hopefully i get to see a good one.

matz vs. roark is a little unfair.

for those of you going to the game, you can't ask for a nicer day. wish I could get to the park today.

skip a start, have him pitch to some bums in PSL and get his confidence back. Hell, send him to vegas to hang out with Viola. Who cares, just get this shit figured out soon.

Harvey's release point just doesn't seem consistent. I mentioned it last night but he kept missing low and away to RH hitters and the pitch location wasn't intentional.. you could tell he was missing.

When he was at his best, he was hitting those low corners on the black at will (especially the inside corner against LH batters) and he's just not locating at all right now. Pitches are either missing badly or tailing right over the heart of the plate belt high and hitters are teeing off.

how Harvey was cupping the ball in his windup and how he's never done that before. Ronnie said that it was a habit that he had to break as a pitcher. Not sure how that plays into everything but it's an example.

I also know that a lot of you disagree, but I feel that A LOT of this is mental/confidence related. The slightest bit of a problem and this guy folds like a deck chair. You can see it through is body language on the mound and in the dugout. I think it definitely plays a part in his meltdowns.

this time last year, Strasburg had a 6.50 ERA and got boo'd at home. went on a lengthy DL stint and came back and dealt the rest of the season (even though the team sucked as a whole).

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this time last year, Strasburg had a 6.50 ERA and got boo'd at home. went on a lengthy DL stint and came back and dealt the rest of the season (even though the team sucked as a whole).

Strasburg was hurt...Harvey is not.

Big difference.

But I am in the minority in my belief that a stint in the minors could do wonders for him. Warthen hasn't been able to do anything with Harvey for two months. Not excited at those two working on the same crap with worse and worse results. Get Harvey out of the spotlight for a couple of weeks. Beat up on some minor league teams and come back with a vengeance. Who cares how he takes being demoted.

Great...more of the same. I just don't get the Mets.

Back spasms... an ankle thing... Still, he went out and got bombed game after game for almost two months. When they finally DLed he also was sent to AA, and then AAA to get back on track. If it was strictly injury related, he likely would have rejoined the team, not pitch in the minors.

when they wanted to pull him out two starts ago?

I don't get their thinking here.

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Great...more of the same. I just don't get the Mets.

Annoying.

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In comment 12970570 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: Great...more of the same. I just don't get the Mets. Annoying.

Me?

Don't really understand it. Oh well. Have to think if he has another bad one they're going to have no choice.

In comment 12970583 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 12970579 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 12970570 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: Great...more of the same. I just don't get the Mets. Annoying. Me?

No the Mets thought process. lol

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Don't really understand it. Oh well. Have to think if he has another bad one they're going to have no choice.

It will be his last chance.

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Great...more of the same. I just don't get the Mets.

That would be Monday, right? Well I just bought tickets to that game. So hopefully he'll break out of his funk then.

Mets Lineup

Curtis Granderson, RF
David Wright, 3B
Michael Conforto, LF
Yoenis Cespedes, CF
Neil Walker, 2B
Asdrubal Cabrera, SS
Eric Campbell, 1B
Rene Rivera, C
Steven Matz, LHP
Nationals Lineup

Michael Taylor, CF
Jayson Werth, LF
Daniel Murphy, 2B
Ryan Zimmerman, 1B
Anthony Rendon, 3B
Wilson Ramos, C
Chris Heisey, RF
Danny Espinosa, SS
Tanner Roark, RHP

Interesting. Harper has been in a mini funk I guess they're giving him a day with the lefty on the mound for us. I'm sure we'll see him in a PH situation later in the game. Hopefully not at a point where he can kill us.

I have a webinar at 1pm that I can totally ignore and follow the game on my computer, lol.

In comment 12970602 PhiPsi125 said:

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I have a webinar at 1pm that I can totally ignore and follow the game on my computer, lol.

Score!

Harvey/media thing last night.
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Murphy look foolish today. Better yet, beam him.

Would love for Matz to whiz one right by Murphy's skull.

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Would love for Matz to whiz one right by Murphy's skull.

just not gonna happen.

getting on Harvey now are the same ones that would have absolutely crucified him and never forgiven him had he stopped at 180 last season. It's absolutely ridiculous. Think of Strasburg a few seasons ago - how would that have gone over with Mets fans when he quit on the team? Now - everyone is sucking his balls like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Had he stayed pitching that year - who knows if they move on to the World Series and win it. The whole thing is a joke. Harvey should do whatever he wants if you ask me, considering all the shit the fans have given him the past year.

In comment 12970631 ryanmkeane said:

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getting on Harvey now are the same ones that would have absolutely crucified him and never forgiven him had he stopped at 180 last season. It's absolutely ridiculous. Think of Strasburg a few seasons ago - how would that have gone over with Mets fans when he quit on the team? Now - everyone is sucking his balls like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Had he stayed pitching that year - who knows if they move on to the World Series and win it. The whole thing is a joke. Harvey should do whatever he wants if you ask me, considering all the shit the fans have given him the past year.

I've made this point many times but fans are just gonna be fans. Didn't like how he handled himself last night, though. He's gotta know better than that. Don't even give the stupid fucking media those headlines.

Chris Towers ✔ ‎@CTowersCBS
WHY WON'T MATT HARVEY TALK TO US? WE'VE ALWAYS TREATED HIM SO FAIRLY!

are out for blood. Some are worse than others but that's part of the game here in NY. Too bad, so sad. There are things you can do to help your image or there are things you can do to egg them on. Matt eggs them on. He does it to himself. The team and Terry's weird comments don't help either, a lot of the times.

As for his injury in Spring Training, I fully believe that the team and Terry made that situation way worse than it could have been. Matt is under no obligation to explain his injury...but it's going to be discussed because he is a very popular public figure. The fact that the team created this aura of mystery coupled with Terry's comments about it only helped the media to go in their own direction. Add to the fact that Terry lets the media know that Harvey was pissed at the media...lol...way to help your player.

Harvey seems a bit thin-skinned, you think? If you want to live with a larger-than-life personality...then own it. You can't reap all the rewards and then piss and moan when things don't go your way. The fans and media will eat you up...and rightfully so.

Adam Rubin

Travis d'Arnaud worked out back in Port St. Lucie on Wednesday morning. He is throwing with no issue.

Adam Rubin
ESPN Staff Writer


Travis d'Arnaud worked out back in Port St. Lucie on Wednesday morning. He is throwing with no issue and will begin more rigorous baseball activity on Thursday, assistant GM John Ricco said. D'Arnaud is on the DL with a rotator cuff strain. He had been at home in California with his own physical therapist.

Kristie Ackert ✔ ‎@Ackert_NYDN
#Mets are convinced Harvey made progress Tuesday night and he is close to helping them win Asst GM John Ricco said

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Anthony DiComo ✔ ‎@AnthonyDiComo
The #Mets are optimistic that Wilmer Flores can come off the disabled list when first eligible on Friday. He would become the starting 1B.

In comment 12970328 speedywheels said:

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he flat out sucks right now. Gives his team no chance to win AND blowout the pen every 5 days. He needs to go on the DL with a phantom injury or get sent down to the minors to work his shit out...

To me the bullpen is the big thing. When a pitcher starts hurting the team beyond on his own start, he has to sit. Don't understand why they are not giving him a few starts off to clear his head.

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Mike Petriello ✔ ý@mike_petriello Even for Mets fans, the speed at which Harvey has gone from "LET HIM PITCH THE NINTH!" to "FIRE THE WIMP INTO THE SUN!" is stunning.

A lot of that has to do with Boras shooting his mouth off. Boras is a jackass, who is particularly hated by Mets fans. If you hire him as an agent, be prepared to have blow back.

If Harvey had fired Boras after last season, the fans would be way more on his side through his struggles. Just like they are with DeGrom. Matt chose to retain him so he made his bed and now has to lie in it.

D'Arnaud back and hitting as the C spot has been a complete black hole in the lineup this entire season.

Based on what i've seen, I would've given Harvey a break from MLB starts to get things cleaned up and worked. However, I don't think the Mets make these decisions lightly, and I'm sure Dan Warthen had input on this, so let's just hope for better results next time out.