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| I really appreciate this effort, and I realize "effort" sounds like a shit-head thing to say, but I don't know another word that fits better. It's a really great article. The only "but" I have is that when I was in college, our tape sessions were intense. I played a few different positions but when I was with the TE/WR group for a while it was rarely the QBs fault. Really the only time it was, was when it was a horrible throw. Our coach (it was D-III but he was a retired D-I coach...well, semi-retired, obviously) used to constantly say; "the NFL loves to blame the QB but it's horseshit, in this room the blame goes where it's earned." The first pick is on RR. He needs to clear his guy, or block him from the INT. There is no way that my coach would have put this on the QB in this situation. It's a clear out route and often a slant/out combo is to set up an out and up later in the game, which is used to set up a back side slugo route for OBJ. So while Reuben is the first look, it's really a 2 man route, because later in the game it's a decoy combo. Hard not to blame Eli on the 2nd one (Nicks vs. Vikings.) It wasn't a horrible throw, but the coverage was good. It should be in incompletion and that part is on Nicks. I do agree that he shouldn't have thrown it to Nicks but I disagree it should have gone to Jennings who had a LB rolling over. A swing pass is way too difficult of a throw after getting rubbed by a DL. He should have thrown low at a WR's feet and eaten the incompletion. Harris vs. Blackmon. Just a little more loft on that ball. I don't hate the decision, any time a QB is throwing to the sidelines vs 1 on 1 coverage, it's a good decision. Maybe not the best decision, but a good one at that. You can blame Eli, but this would be on the line in my opinion. Beckham vs. Tampa. You're absolutely wrong on this one. It's really the only one where I absolutely disagree with you. The rest are judgement calls. This is a perfect throw. You correctly identify the defense as a zone. And what do WR's do in a zone? They sit. OBJ doesn't do that. Eli has a decision to make, throw before the LB or after the LB. He chooses before because OBJ should have settled on that. If Eli goes after there is a safety who is closing fast and ready to ruin OBJs season. Also, as a WR, if it touches my hands, it's my fault - always. There is no excuse. But honestly, this serious is great. Even if I have a different read on it than you, not always, but most things are judgement calls, honestly. It's not as if we have use of the play calls, the coaching notes, or what is being set up for later. Without those things we can only guess...you know, like PFF. |
I would think the one where Donnell dropped it into the Eagles defender would be 1. Maybe the last INT of the season where he got hit blindside. I would think the 3rd would be the one off Vereen's Hands agaisnt Washington.
Vereen against Washington
Nicks against Carolina
Donnell vs AEagles.
I would also put the hit on Eli vs Eagles as an INT and Randle vs Washington since he didnt cut the route off when open.
They question the first one against TB, since OBJ didnt sit. Thats a toss up one for me.
Thank you. You are correct.
Old round peg in round hole. Mac gets it.
Old round peg in round hole. Mac gets it.
Eli has played in two systems. I would argue he has had success in both. McAdoo's offense is more stat friendly and this era of football is inflating passing stats.
In 2011 Eli looked pretty good for a square peg in a round hole when the passing game basically carried the team to a title in one of the best QB seasons ever. I do agree that Eli looks good in this offense. It is likely he would look good in any offense though, except one predicated on a running QB.
Old round peg in round hole. Mac gets it.
Eh, Eli fits into any hole. He executed in Gilbride's system too, only the rest of the offense did not/could not in the last few years of Gilby's tenure. The front office was completely out of sync with the minimum requirements of that system.
makes me think we come out slow to start game and slow to start second half and as time goes on the offense gets in rhythm and improves.
i guess here is to starting quicker out of the gate in 2016
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Mac was smart to build an offense to his strengths instead of fitting him in a system not playing to his strength.
Old round peg in round hole. Mac gets it.
Eli has played in two systems. I would argue he has had success in both. McAdoo's offense is more stat friendly and this era of football is inflating passing stats.
In 2011 Eli looked pretty good for a square peg in a round hole when the passing game basically carried the team to a title in one of the best QB seasons ever. I do agree that Eli looks good in this offense. It is likely he would look good in any offense though, except one predicated on a running QB.
Eli was in complete mastery of the offense that season. For whatever reasons,it finally all gelled together to form the greatest passing attack in Giants history (IMHO)
Obviously Eli deserves a ton of credit,simply put,we could,not run the ball. At all!
But Cruz and Nicks were huuuge that season.
The way I see it,As long as Eli has time,and he has the right pieces,anything is possible.
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Mac was smart to build an offense to his strengths instead of fitting him in a system not playing to his strength.
Old round peg in round hole. Mac gets it.
Eli has played in two systems. I would argue he has had success in both. McAdoo's offense is more stat friendly and this era of football is inflating passing stats.
In 2011 Eli looked pretty good for a square peg in a round hole when the passing game basically carried the team to a title in one of the best QB seasons ever. I do agree that Eli looks good in this offense. It is likely he would look good in any offense though, except one predicated on a running QB.
Eli was in complete mastery of the offense that season. For whatever reasons,it finally all gelled together to form the greatest passing attack in Giants history (IMHO)
Obviously Eli deserves a ton of credit,simply put,we could,not run the ball. At all!
But Cruz and Nicks were huuuge that season.
The way I see it,As long as Eli has time,and he has the right pieces,anything is possible.
He should have been the NFL MVP that year.
hmmmm I don't think I agree with this one. Basically you're saying if a QB is in the NFL and his o line and WR's are good or better, that QB will dismantle any defense. I cant say that I believe that. I mean ok if a QB has an o-line that simply refuses to allow any pressure at all? FIne. But for instance Tony Romo had a superb O-Line, superb RB, Dez Bryant, Witten etc... But he made that team better. Not every QB steps in there and does even close to as well. Give Eli and Ryan Nassib the same teams with top tier guys at the named positions and one guy will be more than a little better than the other.
Or perhaps I misunderstand your point.
makes me think we come out slow to start game and slow to start second half and as time goes on the offense gets in rhythm and improves.
i guess here is to starting quicker out of the gate in 2016
From the description given by Zak Deossie in OTAs he says EVERYTHING is uptempo, quicker and snappy. He sounds like the guys are really happy to be out there.
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Mac was smart to build an offense to his strengths instead of fitting him in a system not playing to his strength.
Old round peg in round hole. Mac gets it.
Eh, Eli fits into any hole. He executed in Gilbride's system too, only the rest of the offense did not/could not in the last few years of Gilby's tenure. The front office was completely out of sync with the minimum requirements of that system.
IMO, the line fell apart, and that's one of the worst things that could have happened to a Gilbride offense.