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Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 9:32 am
6 straight will put you in a good mood.

Starting pitching, outside of Pineda, has been superb of late. Severino likely gets a rehab outing or two in the minors and then maybe a couple more "rehab outings" before they try to figure out what to do with him.

The bullpen has been very good, even beyond the big 3. The highest ERA outside of Pineda among active pitchers is Shreve's 4.00, and the next highest relievers are Cessa's 3.00 (in 3 IP) and Betances with his 2.11.

A-Rod was 2-4 down in Trenton, how he is reintegrated into this lineup will be interesting to watch. Frankly Beltran is a better hitter right now, and when you factor in the defensive improvement in RF from Carlos to whomever you almost wonder whether making A-Rod an everyday player again is appropriate.

Gary Sanchez took a foul off his thumb yesterday, hopefully nothing major.

Chance Adams had another strong outing in Tampa. The converted reliever has taken to starting and may be the best starting pitching prospect in the minors not presently on a disabled list.

Miguel Andujar is tied for the org lead in HR after hitting his 7th yesterday and is tied for the FSL lead in RBI with 32, so this may be the year he turns into a stud prospect. Still just 21 and probably spends half this season at Trenton.

Jake Cave was a triple shy of the cycle and has been dynamic at AAA.

Kyle Holder is at .305 with a 13 game hitting streak at Charleston.
What do you think of Cashman & Girardi  
arniefez : 5/25/2016 9:36 am : link
going to a 6 man rotation? I wonder how long or if they'll stay with it if it works for them.
I see no reason to rush Alex back  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 9:37 am : link
And, frankly, the organization certainly isn't going to bend over backwards to do him any favors.
RE: I see no reason to rush Alex back  
Del Shofner : 5/25/2016 9:39 am : link
In comment 12970379 Greg from LI said:
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And, frankly, the organization certainly isn't going to bend over backwards to do him any favors.


The record shows that they are better without him.
that's silly, though  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 9:41 am : link
ARod didn't make Ellsbury suck ass or Headley hit like a pitcher or the pitchers look like BP.
With Teixeira slumping, the Yanks could definitely use a healthy A Rod  
Heisenberg : 5/25/2016 9:46 am : link
But no need to rush that.
They asked A-Rod how long his rehab assignment would be...  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 9:59 am : link
he effectively said "I don't know, I'm just an employee." So it sounds like he was told he was going to rehab, he was not asked.
The Yankees may actually BE better without A-Rod...  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 10:02 am : link
at least as an everyday player. Beltran is hitting better right now, and even if A-Rod's bat is better than Hicks or Ref the defense and the baserunning isn't. A lineup with A-Rod in it and Beltran in RF is probably better than one with Ackley playing, but otherwise I don't think the best lineup they can field necessarily has A-Rod in it.
Ugh  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 10:08 am : link
Matt Kardos þ@mattkardos 14s15 seconds ago
Sebastian Valle up to SWB, Brady Lail to Trenton. Fact that Valle is going up may mean Sanchez is hurt.
Well, of course he is  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 10:10 am : link
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He wasn't coming up anyway  
Shadow : 5/25/2016 10:13 am : link
They love Romine.
Draft is two weeks away...  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 10:16 am : link
it's the baseball draft, so getting a sense of who is going where is virtually impossible. The strength of the draft is predominately preps (arms and bats) and we've had probably fifteen guys mocked to us over the last couple weeks. I'd like to see a college bat with power (Thaiss, Will Craig, Zach Collins) but the better value may be in draft a HS pitcher who will need TJS w/in 18 months or a toolsy prep OF who runs headlong into the fence with regularity.
A-Rod isn't the problem, Tex is.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/25/2016 10:21 am : link
But Alex and Beltran can't play first base so it's back to RF for Carlos. Unfortunately.
ARod can't play 1B on a daily basis  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 10:25 am : link
But I don't see why he couldn't make an occasional start there.
RE: RE: I see no reason to rush Alex back  
Justlurking : 5/25/2016 10:42 am : link
In comment 12970386 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 12970379 Greg from LI said:


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And, frankly, the organization certainly isn't going to bend over backwards to do him any favors.



The record shows that they are better without him.


Agree - he cripples the roster.
BA has a "best tools" for the upcoming draft...  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 12:11 pm : link
worth a gander.
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RE: He wasn't coming up anyway  
section125 : 5/25/2016 12:22 pm : link
In comment 12970455 Shadow said:
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They love Romine.


Truth be told, Romine is playing extremely well. Defense is excellent and though he doesn't have McCann's pop, but he really hits well enough that giving McCann a day or two off and it is not that big a detriment.

Talk about a trading chip. If Sanchez continues to perform, Romine might bring a decent price back.
If they trade Romine  
Don Draper : 5/25/2016 1:02 pm : link
I hope they get better value than they did when they traded Cervelli, who has been very good for Pittsburgh. Maybe it was his injury-history that limited his value? Or maybe I'm overvaluing him, but he was ranked 4th ion MLB.com...
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yes, it was absolutely his injury history that hurt his value  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 1:06 pm : link
His defense has also improved a fair bit over the past few years. That deal looks bad in hindsight, sure, but at the time he was a backup catcher who got hurt a lot and who was no sure thing to hit as well over 500 ABs instead of 100 or so.

People also overrate him now. He's a solid catcher, but he's not a star or anything.
and let's not go crazy with Romine  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 1:07 pm : link
He's not quite hitting like Jorge Posada. .273/.304/.386 is decent for a backup catcher, but nothing eye opening.
Regarding ARod  
Don Draper : 5/25/2016 1:08 pm : link
If he's hitting like he was in the five games before pulling the hammy, he certainly merits a spot in the lineup. I think he always starts against lefties, and occasionally v. righties. Not bad weapon to have on the bench. He'll probably be hurt a good chunk of the time anyway...
And I want to say  
Shadow : 5/25/2016 1:14 pm : link
Ackley should go down instead of Refsnyder. The fact that Ackley is penciled in as the backup first baseman is bullshit! He sucks at it and Headley is better off there. Ackley can't hit. Refs should be used like Ben Zobriest but no because Joe doesn't like him his bat wastes away!
RE: RE: I see no reason to rush Alex back  
Matt M. : 5/25/2016 1:20 pm : link
In comment 12970386 Del Shofner said:
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And, frankly, the organization certainly isn't going to bend over backwards to do him any favors.



The record shows that they are better without him.
Their record may be better, but their offense isn't any better. They just happen to be getting much better pitching right now.

However, Beltran specifically is a better player with A-Rod out because his numbers as a DH are significantly better than as a RF this year, even though Beltran doesn't want to be a DH.
As for his playing time  
Matt M. : 5/25/2016 1:24 pm : link
I'd be testing him out more at 1B while he's on rehab. The real killer in the lineup is Teixeira. And the notion that A-Rod cripples the lineup is ridiculous. Last year he was one of their 2 most productive hitters. This year he had a terrible start, but was hitting very well for a string of games right before being hurt.

He isn't going to be a .330 BA, 45 HR guy any longer. But, .285 and 25-30 HRs is not inconceivable.
A 6 man rotation could be interesting  
Matt M. : 5/25/2016 1:34 pm : link
There aren't a lot of off days coming up. If it allows Tanaka and Sabathia to be fresh and strong for each start, it could be interesting. However, sticking with could also have a negative impact on the younger arms. I know Mussina, for example, did not like having extra days off.
When ARod was struggling, he was still taking good swings and  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 1:53 pm : link
hitting the ball hard. He didn't look terrible, but he wasn't getting the results. It would be reasonable to think he could turn it around.

Teixeira, on the other hand, looks absolutely cooked. A lot of weak contact, a lot of bad swings. Of course, Beltran looked like that for the first two months last year and has turned it around. Hopefully Tex can too, but it's very worrisome.
RE: When ARod was struggling, he was still taking good swings and  
Matt M. : 5/25/2016 1:58 pm : link
In comment 12970910 Greg from LI said:
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hitting the ball hard. He didn't look terrible, but he wasn't getting the results. It would be reasonable to think he could turn it around.

Teixeira, on the other hand, looks absolutely cooked. A lot of weak contact, a lot of bad swings. Of course, Beltran looked like that for the first two months last year and has turned it around. Hopefully Tex can too, but it's very worrisome.
I don't have confidence Teixaira will turn it around because he has been going down that road for the better part of 5 years. When the HRs were still coming, people overlooked it. But, I couldn't stand a guy who was such a good hitter to come here and only once hit over .260, and that was in his first season here. He has been a dead pull hitter since coming and it has resulted in a lot of Ks, weak ground balls, and outs into the shift.
Ugh  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 2:10 pm : link
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Cashman confirms Gary Sanchez has a "crack in his thumb" http://rab.me/1qJIRM9
RE: A 6 man rotation could be interesting  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 2:11 pm : link
In comment 12970885 Matt M. said:
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There aren't a lot of off days coming up. If it allows Tanaka and Sabathia to be fresh and strong for each start, it could be interesting. However, sticking with could also have a negative impact on the younger arms. I know Mussina, for example, did not like having extra days off.


The problem with this is that the bullpen, which is pitching well right now, could end up overtaxed should you have a couple of five-inning starts in a row.
RE: RE: A 6 man rotation could be interesting  
Matt M. : 5/25/2016 2:18 pm : link
In comment 12970944 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 12970885 Matt M. said:


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There aren't a lot of off days coming up. If it allows Tanaka and Sabathia to be fresh and strong for each start, it could be interesting. However, sticking with could also have a negative impact on the younger arms. I know Mussina, for example, did not like having extra days off.



The problem with this is that the bullpen, which is pitching well right now, could end up overtaxed should you have a couple of five-inning starts in a row.
Agreed. But, you are banking on fewer short starts with fresh arms.
And you do have the Scranton shuttle as an option...  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2016 2:21 pm : link
but you have a decent pen right now, I don't think you need to upset it. Let's see how Severino does before we decide if it's even necessary.
There's no logical reason why Severino can't straighen himself out  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2016 2:29 pm : link
in his rehab starts. He wasn't a mirage last year - the kid has a ton of talent. I know that's no guarantee that he won't continue to struggle, but I think people are writing him off awfully quickly. Hell, just last year Strasburg was absolutely awful in the first two months of the season before being lights-out the rest of the season. It happens.
Tex is probably finished but  
xman : 5/25/2016 3:23 pm : link
there is a slight chance its the weather. He is maybe the worst early season hitter in baseball. I am hoping its the cooler weather and he will wake up.
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