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AnnapolisGiants10 : 5/25/2016 6:02 pm
Hey, this is my 1st post. I'm a big Giants fan living in Annapolis, MD. I'm looking into PSL's on the upper levels. These are the sections they have available. I've never been to the new stadium. Any advice would be great. I've lurked for awhile and know there are some Giants fans from Annapolis on the site.

Section 319, Row 23, Seats 11-12
Section 320, Row 19, Seats 19-20
Section 333, Row 21, Seats 9-10
Section 345, Row 18, Seats 13-14

Section 327, Row 20, Seats 9-10
Section 330, Row 22, Seats 1-2 (aisle)
Section 349, Row 19, Seats 7-8

Annapolis  
section125 : 5/25/2016 6:15 pm : link
was a season ticket holder for 32 years in the last stadium. Never been in the new one.

I attached a seating chart. Don't forget to order your parking pass unless you are taking the train up.

Good Luck.
Seating Chart - ( New Window )
Welcome  
Big Blue '56 : 5/25/2016 6:17 pm : link
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Spend the preseason going to games to see  
jcn56 : 5/25/2016 6:22 pm : link
different vantage points. I was a lifelong upper level fan, and when the opportunity to buy PSLs for the uppers came along I passed. They moved them so far up and back it's just not worth it anymore.
I cannot speak about the upper deck too well  
robbieballs2003 : 5/25/2016 6:23 pm : link
But it is much further back from the field than the old stadium. I didn't like it so if you were to get seats in the upper deck I would want to be close to the 50 and/or much closer than row 20ish.
I would go with this  
SomeFan : 5/25/2016 8:17 pm : link
First, closest to midfield
Second, closest to first row in the section
Third, closest to the aisle

I am a season tix holder for a number of years now.
Hate to be that guy  
ron mexico : 5/25/2016 9:32 pm : link
But why do you want a psl?

How many games a year do you plan to attend?

Are you buying these directly from the Giants?  
ron mexico : 5/25/2016 9:34 pm : link
Or on the secondary market?
Through the Giants  
AnnapolisGiants10 : 5/25/2016 10:39 pm : link
Through the Giants and probably 4-5 a year and sell the rest.
My only advice to you...  
EricJ : 5/25/2016 10:45 pm : link
is to check these three things...

1. Try to get towards the middle of the field
2. Try to get towards the middle if the aisle. If you are ON the aisle then you will be getting up every time someone wants to pee.
3. Check into the exit path. Would be nice to be near one of the escalators so that you are not waiting in a long line just to exit.
There are also PSLs available via the marketplace  
Scyber : 5/25/2016 11:34 pm : link
(link below). Some are below the original PSL price.
https://nygiants.strmarketplace.com/Personal-Seat-Licenses/Personal-Seat-Licenses.aspx - ( New Window )
When it comes  
NJGiantFan84 : 5/26/2016 12:19 am : link
To which seats you choose, think about how often you get up and whether you want to be the guy that stands for everyone or the guy that asks people to stand for him. I see some people on the aisle standing up a lot some games as people go in and out. Usually the same people. I only get up once or twice if at all so prefer my seats dead in the middle where I am rarely bothered and rarely bother others.

I am not criticizing, people have to get by, of course. But I imagine it can get annoying when the same people who clearly dont care about the game get up every ten minutes in the middle of a play to get another beer. Id rather not be the guy that has to get up for them every time. But others enjoy the luxury of being on the aisle and getting to the coveted bathroom at halftime before anybody else. Just something to consider since you have Options.
upper deck  
Simms : 5/26/2016 7:52 am : link
Anything after row 15 in the upper deck its very high.

The mid level seats in the end zone (call them coaching seats as you can see down the field and routes etc.) are okay seats, but very windy being close to the cross breeze vents.

The lower level is hit or miss depending on how you like to view a game.

Before you invest in a PSL, maybe check out a few games by buying tickets in various sections and watch a game live.
Seeing what those PSL's are re-selling at is pretty sad.. barely cost  
Mellowmood92 : 5/26/2016 8:23 am : link
(For my mezzanine tickets). I never considered it an investment in any way/shape/form, but thought they'd at least retain their value.

To your question, and as many have pointed out - the upper deck is way up there. See if you can arrange a visit and see the seats before you buy them. I'm not sure if they do that, but it's worth asking whatever sales rep you're talking to.

They will absolutely allow a visit  
ron mexico : 5/26/2016 8:37 am : link
My buddy did that. And I would reccomend it as well

Definetly check out the marketplace. The only way I would buy a psl is for great seats in the specific price point I'm looking at. These seem pretty mediocre. Not that low in the section and not that close to the 50



RE: Seeing what those PSL's are re-selling at is pretty sad.. barely cost  
Sec 103 : 5/26/2016 8:50 am : link
In comment 12971853 Mellowmood92 said:
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(For my mezzanine tickets). I never considered it an investment in any way/shape/form, but thought they'd at least retain their value.

To your question, and as many have pointed out - the upper deck is way up there. See if you can arrange a visit and see the seats before you buy them. I'm not sure if they do that, but it's worth asking whatever sales rep you're talking to.

I am very, very thankful that I didn't plunk down 20 G's for my 4 seats in Sec 103, for one the $$$$, the other I hate that stadium!
I'm sick of all the whiners bitching about how much farther back  
jsuds : 5/26/2016 9:44 am : link
the seats are now. I was in row sect 320 row 13 in the old stadium, and I am now in sect 324 row 16. Yes it is a bit further back but the difference between old and new is negligible. Either way it's a "coach's view" scenario, ten or twelve feet makes ZERO difference.
From my seats I see every hole open up (or not) on every running play; I see if the receiver is open or covered when Eli throws it to him, I can tell every play whether we got the first down or not (except when there is a measurement). The ONLY thing I miss is whether/when we cross the goal line on the far end of the field when we score.
Being at the game is about EXPERIENCING the game, the tailgating, the energy of 80K people rooting for the team. So shut up and watch it on your HD TV you whining SOB's.
^^^^^^^^^^^^  
ron mexico : 5/26/2016 9:50 am : link
Agreed, the upper deck is fine. I like the view from up there
RE: Seeing what those PSL's are re-selling at is pretty sad.. barely cost  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/26/2016 10:05 am : link
In comment 12971853 Mellowmood92 said:
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(For my mezzanine tickets). I never considered it an investment in any way/shape/form, but thought they'd at least retain their value.

To your question, and as many have pointed out - the upper deck is way up there. See if you can arrange a visit and see the seats before you buy them. I'm not sure if they do that, but it's worth asking whatever sales rep you're talking to.


Do you think if/when the team starts winning or at least putting a competitive product on the field again, the value will increase?
RE: RE: Seeing what those PSL's are re-selling at is pretty sad.. barely cost  
Scyber : 5/26/2016 10:13 am : link
In comment 12972017 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 12971853 Mellowmood92 said:


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(For my mezzanine tickets). I never considered it an investment in any way/shape/form, but thought they'd at least retain their value.

To your question, and as many have pointed out - the upper deck is way up there. See if you can arrange a visit and see the seats before you buy them. I'm not sure if they do that, but it's worth asking whatever sales rep you're talking to.




Do you think if/when the team starts winning or at least putting a competitive product on the field again, the value will increase?


I think so. I think the main issue with the PSL price is two fold:

1) The PSLs were priced before and then mostly sold after the 2008 recession. They were probably overpriced when they were introduced due to that. And the economy has been very slow to recover from that recession.
2) The giants have not been consistent since the PSLs were introduced. If the giants can put a few consistent years together the price will increase. Especially if they start having consistent home playoff games (since those games are much more valuable to the PSL holder).
RE: Seeing what those PSL's are re-selling at is pretty sad.. barely cost  
Mike in ramapo college : 5/26/2016 10:24 am : link
In comment 12971853 Mellowmood92 said:
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(For my mezzanine tickets). I never considered it an investment in any way/shape/form, but thought they'd at least retain their value.

To your question, and as many have pointed out - the upper deck is way up there. See if you can arrange a visit and see the seats before you buy them. I'm not sure if they do that, but it's worth asking whatever sales rep you're talking to.


Isn't the PSL a fixed 30 year license? If so, you have already utilized 16% of the license. So if that resale value is near the cost you paid, you are "making" money.
I think the economics of ticket buying has changed with all the  
jcn56 : 5/26/2016 10:25 am : link
secondary options and people paying off PSLs by selling tickets.

I originally lamented not buying a PSL - I had been on the waiting list forever (and had placed my children on it at birth). Tickets were cheaper at face, and harder to come by anywhere near face unless the team was doing terribly or there were circumstances (weather, Monday night game, etc.).

With the increase in ticket prices, the PSLs, and the uptake in secondary markets - it's easier to pick up tickets on demand at something reasonably close to face. Again, you're going to pay a premium, but you're not buying preseason games, you didn't pay for a PSL, you don't have to sell tickets for games you won't attend, etc.

Unless you're certain to be attending close to all the games, or really like sitting in the same particular seats - I don't see the advantage to ownership anymore.
RE: RE: Seeing what those PSL's are re-selling at is pretty sad.. barely cost  
jcn56 : 5/26/2016 10:26 am : link
In comment 12972057 Mike in ramapo college said:
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In comment 12971853 Mellowmood92 said:


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(For my mezzanine tickets). I never considered it an investment in any way/shape/form, but thought they'd at least retain their value.

To your question, and as many have pointed out - the upper deck is way up there. See if you can arrange a visit and see the seats before you buy them. I'm not sure if they do that, but it's worth asking whatever sales rep you're talking to.




Isn't the PSL a fixed 30 year license? If so, you have already utilized 16% of the license. So if that resale value is near the cost you paid, you are "making" money.


Mike - although clearly stated in writing that it wasn't an investment many times over, the sales pitch when the stadium came out was that they would likely increase in value and you could sell at a later date and recoup your costs and then some.
I think when/if they start winning again the market will go up again,  
Mellowmood92 : 5/26/2016 1:30 pm : link
although I think the value would be higher selling the tickets on a game by game basis at that point. I could easily make back my investment selling a few seasons worth of games individually - but I only sell to people i know for face value or go myself.

The new ticket pricing structure helps out with that a ton, since we're no longer getting crushed on pre-season games. Even with regular season games going up people are a lot more likely to pay well over face value for a division game, then anywhere close to face value on a preseason game.

Mike to your point, i had forgotten (or probably didn't realize) it was a 30 year contract - so you're right, selling at this point for what i paid would be profitable. To my father and I's credit, or defense, we had been on the waiting list since the late 80's and were less than 100 people away from tickets when the new stadium was built - so we really jumped at the opportunity. I had always assumed the value would go up since there were so many people waiting for season tickets at that time.
RE: RE: Seeing what those PSL's are re-selling at is pretty sad.. barely cost  
kinard : 5/26/2016 2:07 pm : link
In comment 12972057 Mike in ramapo college said:
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In comment 12971853 Mellowmood92 said:


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(For my mezzanine tickets). I never considered it an investment in any way/shape/form, but thought they'd at least retain their value.

To your question, and as many have pointed out - the upper deck is way up there. See if you can arrange a visit and see the seats before you buy them. I'm not sure if they do that, but it's worth asking whatever sales rep you're talking to.




Isn't the PSL a fixed 30 year license? If so, you have already utilized 16% of the license. So if that resale value is near the cost you paid, you are "making" money.


PSL is not a fixed 30 year license - the only "30 year" language in PSL agreement pertains to a forced re-location of seats (e.g. for stadium relocation purposes). More specifically, the agreement states that “For purposes of this [relocation of seats provision] provision, the PSL will be assumed to have a life of 30 years and the amortization will be straight line (e.g., a $1,000 PSL returned after 3 years, the Licensee will receive $900.00) (the “UNAMORTIZED PORTION OF THE PSL FEE”

My understanding of the agreement is that the license is in full force and effect for as long as the Giants play in the Stadium.
With those sections don't bother  
BigBlue89 : 5/26/2016 3:06 pm : link
The sections you listed are all pretty bad views. Save your money and buy better seats from the marketplace when you can.

This listing is for 4 seats in 338 which is on the 50, but at a decent starting price. If you can somehow split this up, I think you'd be happier.

https://nygiants.strmarketplace.com/Personal-Seat-Licenses/63755/Make-Offer.aspx?dialog=true&gvidx=0
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