NFT: It seems unlikely there will be a True Detective season 3

That's for sure.

Did someone shit in them!?

That Cary Fukunaga was the true genius behind season 1. Rumors are that Nick Pizzolato is impossible to work with.

In comment 12971568 Modus Operandi said:

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That Cary Fukunaga was the true genius behind season 1. Rumors are that Nick Pizzolato is impossible to work with.

Not exactly the best cast either.

I get what they wanted to do with having separate stories each season. However, that first season was just insanely good and by the end you realize that they barely scratched the surface on that whole operation. Why not just continue that story?

It just didn't work and was almost annoying to even follow.

In comment 12971573 robbieballs2003 said:

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I get what they wanted to do with having separate stories each season. However, that first season was just insanely good and by the end you realize that they barely scratched the surface on that whole operation. Why not just continue that story?

I'm sure Matthew M and Woody wanted no part of more than one season. If they're not going to be in it, you might as well change everything.

In comment 12971573 robbieballs2003 said:

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I get what they wanted to do with having separate stories each season. However, that first season was just insanely good and by the end you realize that they barely scratched the surface on that whole operation. Why not just continue that story?

There are thematic connections. But Season 2 was so bad, I think they tainted the whole brand.

Pure speculation: They are probably pushing Nic Pizzolatto to collaborate with Season 1 director Cary Fukunaga again (they hated each other) or with some other powerful director. Pizzolatto probably wants to keep total creative control, which he had for Season 2. And HBO is probably saying "Uh, no."

The joke in Hollywood is: What's the best thing on Cary Fukunaga's reel? "True Detective Season 2."

and 2 was soooo bad. "Don't do anything out of hunger, not even eat." Vince Vaughn should sue them for ruining his career.

In comment 12971583 Pete in MD said:

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and 2 was soooo bad. "Don't do anything out of hunger, not even eat." Vince Vaughn should sue them for ruining his career.

Except Vince Vaughn sucks, so...

Watching him try to play that role in TDS2 was painful, though. Just so forced and shitty. I couldn't stand it.

Liked Farrell's storyline a lot but the whole thing was just a mess.

sucks. Season 2 was worse, but still very entertaining.

In comment 12971588 arcarsenal said:

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Watching him try to play that role in TDS2 was painful, though. Just so forced and shitty. I couldn't stand it. Liked Farrell's storyline a lot but the whole thing was just a mess.

When I heard he was in it and what he was playing, I knew they were doomed. Stick to Owen Wilson movies, Vince...

In comment 12971591 Chris in Philly said:

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In comment 12971588 arcarsenal said: Quote: Watching him try to play that role in TDS2 was painful, though. Just so forced and shitty. I couldn't stand it. Liked Farrell's storyline a lot but the whole thing was just a mess. When I heard he was in it and what he was playing, I knew they were doomed. Stick to Owen Wilson movies, Vince...

Yep, he has that very small niche and really should just never wander outside of it.

if not for the greatness of season 1. Maybe I'm giving it too much credit.

Hearing the casting I thought Vaughn was a head scratcher.

I think he's fine for light-hearted roles like Wedding Crashers, but out of his element in this case.

Vince Vaughn. He was great in Swingers and Made. I think he is awkward in dramatic roles. His Psycho remake was a total shit show.

and the shows fate was sealed when he walked after season 1. I'm far more interested in his supposed push for Kubrick's "Napolean", supposedly a 6 part HBO mini series.

In comment 12971601 UConn4523 said:

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and the shows fate was sealed when he walked after season 1. I'm far more interested in his supposed push for Kubrick's "Napolean", supposedly a 6 part HBO mini series.

Absolutely agree. I think having him direct all 8 episodes of season one was a great idea that gave it a continuity and clarity of vision that was clearly lacking in season 2. And I didn't dislike season 2, it was entertaining.

the tumors also included Spielberg or Luhrman, both of which I want no where near the project. Fukunaga would nail the darkness and grittiness of his reign, really hope he ends up withh the project.

In comment 12971583 Pete in MD said:

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and 2 was soooo bad. "Don't do anything out of hunger, not even eat." Vince Vaughn should sue them for ruining his career.

Im sure Vince will find some role playing an immature overweight douchey guy still trying to relive his frat-boy glory years all before getting a wake-up call when he is dumped by his girlfriend, causing him to change his ways and find his newfound mature self.

Never got that into early parts of season 2 and the scene where Vince Vaughn is lying in bed staring at the ceiling talking all sorts of symbolic crazy shit about his troubled past.... I officially reached my breaking point. Couldn't take anymore. Vaughn is good or even great in some of the subtle comedic stuff but has an actor ever been more miscast than this guy was for not one but two roles?

They tried to invent too much contrived drama, surrounded by a bunch of moody fucks mumbling conversations that were supposed to be deep while guzzling brown liquor

Sometimes you just can't recapture the originality of the first season. Plenty of other good original television out there now

Halloween III: Season of the Witch.

I wish they would make a movie based on Nic P's book Galveston. That book was so cinematic that you could almost see the scenes play out on the page. Nic paints some visuals that still haunt me for the reading of them.

I don't know anything about how hard he is to work with, but as a writer.....he's killing it. I read somewhere that he's working on a new Magnificent Seven movie.

looks awful.

In comment 12971648 djm said:

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Never got that into early parts of season 2 and the scene where Vince Vaughn is lying in bed staring at the ceiling talking all sorts of symbolic crazy shit about his troubled past.... I officially reached my breaking point. Couldn't take anymore. Vaughn is good or even great in some of the subtle comedic stuff but has an actor ever been more miscast than this guy was for not one but two roles?

When has Vaughn ever been subtle? Ever?

I think there's a place for the kind of thing that NP brings to the table but he absolutely should have stayed away from LA. It was a self-referential parody of itself from the jump.

Colin Farrell fan, but he was awesome in Season 2. Made it worth watching IMO.

There were too many unnecessary storylines, like the simultaneously gay and homophobic Tim Riggins. It just didn't need to be that much a part of the story.

I did read that Nick will likely stay on for another project if Season 3 is not picked up.

David Simon is doing a series about The Sex industry in Times Square in the 1970's, the mob involvement and the heavy drug atmosphere surrounding it. Called "The Deuce" when it was announced. I imagine that will be awesome as anything Simon touches is gold.

In comment 12971658 Mr. Bungle said:

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Halloween III: Season of the Witch.

underrated horror film.

that they couldn't come up with a more compelling story from the corrupt history of this town. When they said it was gonna be set out here, I really thought it could be something. Then I heard they got Vince Vaughn and began to temper my expeectations.

In comment 12971749 Phil in LA said:

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that they couldn't come up with a more compelling story from the corrupt history of this town. When they said it was gonna be set out here, I really thought it could be something. Then I heard they got Vince Vaughn and began to temper my expeectations.

That was really what i didn't like about it. The story in season 1 was fascinating and interesting.... season 2's story was just... boring. I just didn't care about the mystery.

In comment 12971726 madgiantscow009 said:

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In comment 12971658 Mr. Bungle said: Quote: Halloween III: Season of the Witch. underrated horror film.

Love Halloween III too ,Tom Atkins is the man !!!!

or did anyone else have trouble actually hearing the conversations taking place in season 2? Like it was audibly frustrating.

In comment 12972011 ryanmkeane said:

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or did anyone else have trouble actually hearing the conversations taking place in season 2? Like it was audibly frustrating.

That's true, but Season 1 was way worse. Remember the McConaughey soft talking. I had to have the volume on high and continually rewind and replay it.

In comment 12972011 ryanmkeane said:

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or did anyone else have trouble actually hearing the conversations taking place in season 2? Like it was audibly frustrating.

I had to watch each episode with the subtitles on.

could have saved season 2. The writing had some interesting stuff but overall it was a jumbled mess. And, as others have already mentioned, a role or two was severely miscast.

...but noone else held up their end. Ultimately it was a disaster.

In comment 12972011 ryanmkeane said:

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or did anyone else have trouble actually hearing the conversations taking place in season 2? Like it was audibly frustrating.

I would turn the volume on my TV up past 60 (for reference, I usually have it at 15 when I'm watching a regular show.. might push it to 20-25 for a game.. ) and literally could still not understand half of any given sentence. This was doubly frustrating because there were about 10 different plot lines simultaneously trying to intertwine themselves and it was hard enough to figure out what the hell was going on half the time as it was.

In comment 12971601 UConn4523 said:

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and the shows fate was sealed when he walked after season 1. I'm far more interested in his supposed push for Kubrick's "Napolean", supposedly a 6 part HBO mini series.

Agree 100% -- he did a fantastic job. Season 2 didn't have a great story but the pacing was just awful.

And this thread needs a pic: