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NFT: GoT The Door Question - SHOW SPOILERS

Jerz44 : 5/26/2016 8:32 am
After a few days of thinking on the ending, a question popped up in my head: what period of time was Bran in when he ran into the white walkers? Was he doing a lateral shift and seeing them in the present? If it was in the past, wouldn't he have been 'marked' all along meaning the cave was never safe?
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RE: RE: Pj it was in the non-spoiler thread?  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 12:19 pm : link
In comment 12972316 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12972301 ZGiants98 said:


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I haven't seen anything like that in the last thread or this one.



No, it was in the book thread. but at this point we're all guessing, the books are pretty much done.

I just figured it was theory like so many of the wikis or reddit sites about the show. I was wrong, it was legit spoilers.

Also, the person who does the translations of the show into other languages allegedly shared the plot with many people prior to airing of The Door and that found it's way online.


Damn. Well that sucks. I would have never clicked on a link like that in the first place though. If you know what happens specifically please do not share.
RE: RE: RE: Pj it was in the non-spoiler thread?  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2016 12:21 pm : link
In comment 12972332 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 12972316 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 12972301 ZGiants98 said:


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I haven't seen anything like that in the last thread or this one.



No, it was in the book thread. but at this point we're all guessing, the books are pretty much done.

I just figured it was theory like so many of the wikis or reddit sites about the show. I was wrong, it was legit spoilers.

Also, the person who does the translations of the show into other languages allegedly shared the plot with many people prior to airing of The Door and that found it's way online.



Damn. Well that sucks. I would have never clicked on a link like that in the first place though. If you know what happens specifically please do not share.


this was last Sunday, before The Door episode, I haven't seen any spoilers for Blood of my Blood (this Sunday's episode). And if I do see a link I'm not following it.

RE: I don't buy the theory that Tommen told Cersei about Joffrey.  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 12:22 pm : link
In comment 12972324 Jerz44 said:
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1) How would the HS find out? Margery didn't tell him and I doubt Lancel was involved in that planning.

2) Joff was still Tommen's brother even if he was a jerk. I'm sure Tommen would be upset. He seemed too put together when he was about to reveal whatever secret to Cersei.


Loras would of had to have known and he divulged it when they were "breaking" him. Only possible way it works.
Sidenote  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 12:32 pm : link
I honestly think this is unanimously going to be considered the greatest season ever. So much has already happened in the first half and we still have to resolve the Kings Landing mess, the battle in Winterfell, Ramsey. ect. I cant imagine there's a single weak episode left.
I wouldn't go that far  
UConn4523 : 5/26/2016 12:38 pm : link
I think a lot of big stuff is going to happen, particularly this coming episode, but the brick laying (where the show is at its best) is essentially over and the motions to move forward to the ending are pretty much set.

If you are going by just WTF moment where a big name dies in a cool way, then maybe, but I don't see this season topping some of its predecessors, certainly not unanimously. Season 1-3 were fantastic and season 6 needs a lot of work to come close, IMO.
Season 4 was my favorite  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 12:40 pm : link
season by far and I know Im not alone. I think this is already on par with that one and can easily surpass it.
Id go  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 12:41 pm : link
4
2
3
1
5

If I was ranking them with 6 having a very good chance to come in number one after its all over.
Yes be careful with that translator spoiler source  
moespree : 5/26/2016 12:43 pm : link
He's been 100% accurate on the first 5 episodes and has now written about literally the entire season. I read a sentence or two before realizing what I was reading. And now I'm pissed the fuck off at whoever this douchebag is because that one sentence was a massive spoiler. So be careful if you're going to click anywhere about this show in the weeks to come.
was talking with a co-worker earlier  
UConn4523 : 5/26/2016 12:48 pm : link
will we ever see Bronn again? I'm guessing yes as there was no real reason to keep him alive if they just ended up killing Myrcella.
Few things  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 12:56 pm : link
We are getting Sam and Gilley sleep feast this week to help us enjoy the action at Kings Landing which will be about 10 mins.

Loris and Margery are so close if Loras wasn't gay they would be like Jamie and Cersi. They have shared sexual partners She adores him of course she told him about Joffery and he broke in interrogation by the Septan.
He the told Tommen knowing he would tell Cersi.(is the HS a Baelish?) he knows how to play the game.

Tommen didn't seem upset? He was practically shaking.
Cersi refuses to look directly at the Queen of Thorns in the small chamber meeting and Jamie is almost too friendly like he is before he double crosses you.
Cersi also interrupted the Old guy telling Tommen about his enemies outside the walls and within. Cersi looked like she wanted to kill the old fool right there. And of course when we hear the Rains of Castimire playing we know the lanisters are about to fuck someone up.

Since the have been opening with vital scenes first I imagine we meet BenJen Stark right away.
Buddy at work believes the Old Foe  
Saos1n : 5/26/2016 1:10 pm : link
Might be Walder Frey...

Makes a ton of sense, really... Don't think word has made it to him that his daughter and new born son are dead...

Would make for a great scene!
Sorry... I missed it....  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 1:23 pm : link
Which "Old Foe" are you referring to?
Frey  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 1:25 pm : link
Could fcare less about fat Walda or another brat. He is in his own little world.
The "Old Foe" is in the official episode 6 snyopsis  
moespree : 5/26/2016 1:26 pm : link
“An old foe comes back into the picture. Gilly meets Sam’s family. Arya faces a difficult choice. Jaime faces off against the High Sparrow.”
Walder Frey  
UConn4523 : 5/26/2016 1:27 pm : link
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Blood of my blood  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 1:28 pm : link

"An old foe comes back into the picture. Gilly (Hannah Murray) meets Sam's (John Bradley) family. Arya (Maisie Williams) faces a difficult choice. Jaime (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) faces off against the High Sparrow (Jonathan Pryce)."
Ok got it...  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 1:29 pm : link
Synopsis then. Didn't know what you guys were referring to.
I hope they finally do something with Arya  
UConn4523 : 5/26/2016 1:30 pm : link
make her faceless or don't, doesn't matter to me either way. For as much as I think things are being rushed they sure are stalling with her story.
Old Foe  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 1:33 pm : link
The Hound returns at the temple.
I think the many face God  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 1:35 pm : link
"Assassins" are fucking stupid. The logic behind it is horrible. Worst part of the show IMO. My guess is that Arya is going to have to murder somebody she loves and will break the vow and essentially all of this was to make her a bad ass fighter.
RE: I think the many face God  
BrettNYG10 : 5/26/2016 1:43 pm : link
In comment 12972528 ZGiants98 said:
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"Assassins" are fucking stupid. The logic behind it is horrible. Worst part of the show IMO. My guess is that Arya is going to have to murder somebody she loves and will break the vow and essentially all of this was to make her a bad ass fighter.


She was asked whether she decided she'd join them and her answer was "A girl has decided" (I'm paraphrasing). I thought it was left open-ended what that meant.

I think she could absolutely abandon them.
RE: Ok got it...  
Saos1n : 5/26/2016 1:45 pm : link
In comment 12972514 ZGiants98 said:
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Synopsis then. Didn't know what you guys were referring to.


Yeah, synopsis... Sorry about that... The old foe line has been bothering me for days... We've been discussing who it could be...

RE: I think the many face God  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 1:47 pm : link
In comment 12972528 ZGiants98 said:
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"Assassins" are fucking stupid. The logic behind it is horrible. Worst part of the show IMO. My guess is that Arya is going to have to murder somebody she loves and will break the vow and essentially all of this was to make her a bad ass fighter.
if she doesn't learn from them she will never get close enough to Cersi to kill her.
RE: RE: I think the many face God  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 1:48 pm : link
In comment 12972555 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 12972528 ZGiants98 said:


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"Assassins" are fucking stupid. The logic behind it is horrible. Worst part of the show IMO. My guess is that Arya is going to have to murder somebody she loves and will break the vow and essentially all of this was to make her a bad ass fighter.



She was asked whether she decided she'd join them and her answer was "A girl has decided" (I'm paraphrasing). I thought it was left open-ended what that meant.

I think she could absolutely abandon them.


She will. It just won't happen until a "hit" comes pretty close to home. I'm guessing she kills that bitch who has a vandetta against her on the way out the door too.

I just really hate the logic behind the "many face God", ect. Seems like a shitty religion to to take hits out on anyone and everyone for money regardless of who they are.
Just had a thought....  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 1:54 pm : link
Maybe there will be "two" Arya's once she leaves. That bitch has been acquiring information to likely steal her "face". I could see real Arya killing Cersi or something while "fake Arya" kills somebody she loves simultaneously. That might be interesting.
RE: RE: I think the many face God  
NYG07 : 5/26/2016 1:54 pm : link
In comment 12972555 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 12972528 ZGiants98 said:


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"Assassins" are fucking stupid. The logic behind it is horrible. Worst part of the show IMO. My guess is that Arya is going to have to murder somebody she loves and will break the vow and essentially all of this was to make her a bad ass fighter.



She was asked whether she decided she'd join them and her answer was "A girl has decided" (I'm paraphrasing). I thought it was left open-ended what that meant.

I think she could absolutely abandon them.


Agreed. I think she is going to turn on them. I remember in the first trailer for this season they showed her jumping off a building. She is probably running away to flee Braavos and return to Westeros.

Good guesses on the old foe. Could very well be the hound or walder frey
Not to spoil big but  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 1:57 pm : link
The Lord of Light may be the most Evil God. Dani and Jon may end up on the wrong side.
Well... Fire could = hell lol  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 2:03 pm : link
I don't think theres much in the show at all though to suggest this yet.
How many different gods have been shown in this series so far  
NYG27 : 5/26/2016 2:28 pm : link
- Faith of the seven
- Lord of the light
- Gods of the forest
- Many face god
- Drowned god
- Great Stallion
- Great Shepard

Am I missing any?

I didn't even know what the Shepard was  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 2:32 pm : link
Do the White Walkers follow something?

I think you are missing  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 2:34 pm : link
the "old Gods"
Lord of Light religion burns people alive  
moespree : 5/26/2016 2:52 pm : link
Engages in blood sacrifices and the new red priestess is already talking about Dany using her dragons to "purify" non-believers. I have no doubt it's a fanaticism that will probably need to be eradicated in that world by the end of the story.
RE: I think you are missing  
NYG27 : 5/26/2016 2:53 pm : link
ZGiants98 said:
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the "old Gods"


Z, the Old gods are the same as the gods of the forest. That is the religion the North and beyond the wall still worship, including the Stark's.

The Great Shepard was shown in season one, where the Dothraki invaded another clan that worshiped rams\sheep. That's when Dany saved that witch, who in turn killed her baby and poisoned Khal as revenge.
Old Gods = Gods of the Forest.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/26/2016 2:57 pm : link
They became the "Old Gods" when the Faith of the Seven gained ascendancy.
Ok thanks guys  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 3:04 pm : link
I guess I was thinking the Gods of the Forest was the Children of the Forest's God. Do we know if they followed one?
And I get that the Lord of Light  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 3:09 pm : link
has some crazy beliefs. Sacrificing by burning ect. but I think most of them fall into that category. The Many Face God is cool with assassinating innocent people. The drowned God insists they kill themselves and come back to life? lol. They kill endlessly for the Stallion? The Shepard seemed like Blood Magic. These religions are all nuts to me. lol The Faith of the 7 is probably the closest to Roman Catholic I guess.

I need to catch up  
AP in Halfmoon : 5/26/2016 3:14 pm : link
WHich seasons are free on Amazon?
Also mentioned is The Great Other  
slickwilly : 5/26/2016 3:31 pm : link
the god of darkness, cold, and death in the faith of R'hllor. He is considered the enemy of R'hllor, the Lord of Light.
Blood of my Blood  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 4:18 pm : link
Is the last thing Ned Said to Jon when he left to join the Knights Watch.

Is Uncle Benjen the meaning for the title Blood of my Blood?

Or could it be just a bloody episode.

RE: I need to catch up  
NYG27 : 5/26/2016 4:21 pm : link
AP in Halfmoon said:
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WHich seasons are free on Amazon?


You can only rent/buy episodes on Amazon, something like $4 per episode or $30 per season. Best way to binge watch the series, is to sign up for HBO Go for a few months.

I re-watched seasons 1-5 in a little under 3 weeks, so you might only need it for a month or two.
RE: Ok thanks guys  
NYG27 : 5/26/2016 4:23 pm : link
ZGiants98 said:
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I guess I was thinking the Gods of the Forest was the Children of the Forest's God. Do we know if they followed one?


Children of the forest do follow the same old gods of the forest as the Northern people.
The Old Gods  
beatrixkiddo : 5/26/2016 4:31 pm : link
are worshiped by the First Men, and still the Houses in the North. It was mentioned in the episode how the war between the Children of the Forest and the First Men came about for their disregard for the Weirwood trees. They are sacred and are integral to the Children of the Forest.

My guess is that after the events of the Children creating the WW/Others, a peace was eventually reached between the First men and Children of the Forest where they showed respect by honoring their religion (Old Gods). I have a feeling that much like how it was revealed the Children created the WW/Others to fight against the First Men which they ultimately lost control of, someone/ something else in Essos probably created something similar with R'holler and the Lord of Light, seeing as they are two religions we are told have a history of war between each other. Maybe the First Men practiced some dark arts to create Rhollar to combat the Others.
That's really odd to me  
ZGiants98 : 5/26/2016 4:42 pm : link
I thought the first men (ancient Starks, ect.) drove the children of the Forest away, eventually pushing them north of the wall. They all followed the same religion? Don't the Children of the Forest have magical powers? I'm lost. Lol
They did.  
beatrixkiddo : 5/26/2016 4:49 pm : link
The Children of the forest were almost wiped out, hence them creating the Others out of desperation. Things got out of hand though. I think the Stark's likely adopted their religion and let the remaining ones live in peace after the war was over, and Brandon the Builder built the Wall. Seems, like the Stark thing to do.
Thats why Winterfell  
Shadow : 5/26/2016 5:19 pm : link
Has one of the last Weirwood trees.A bond or Agreement. Also the famous there must always be a Stark at Winterfell.
Blood of My Blood  
Manning10 : 5/26/2016 7:00 pm : link
The Titles always give a hint of what is to come, I have a feeling we will be going back to the Tower of Joy and see Ned make it up the stairs and find...... well you know.
Maybe Arya gets her period?  
Shepherdsam : 5/26/2016 7:20 pm : link
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It's likely a theme of interfamily turmoil  
UConn4523 : 5/26/2016 7:41 pm : link
and/or betrayal. I fucking hope so atleast.
I think Bran met the Night King a short time in the past  
Joe in Cambridge : 5/26/2016 9:10 pm : link
Right after he showed the 3 eyed raven the mark on his arm Meera started to pack her things. And when the white walkers showed up, she was still packing.
I think Bran met the Night King in the past  
Joe in Cambridge : 5/26/2016 9:21 pm : link
Right after he showed the 3 eyed raven the mark on his arm Meera started to pack her things. And when the white walkers showed up, she was still packing. The night king already knew when/where Bran and his allies would be.

That's why the wights were waiting under the snow for them back in season 4 when they got to the tree. And that's why the white walker army was able to get there so quickly after Bran was marked.

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