Nice piece on the two of them. I've been critical of Grant but I suspect he has a much, much better second season. I still believe he's a good backup but nothing wrong with that. Both players will play in Orlando (summer league)
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For all we know a deal is done and they are just waiting until after weekend to announce it....
I think the only reason it was leaked was because they were seen having dinner and were cornered by media...
Also beck has sources either close to phil or phil himself
No
If i remember correctly it was talked about but every single media member has the story wrong
including woj
They all kept saying no way phil takes the job and then woj day before said phil told knicks no and he was going to lakers then next day it was official
As for Hornacek, I agree that a guy like Grant has a much better chance of developing now that he would have under Rambis
As for Hornacek, I agree that a guy like Grant has a much better chance of developing now that he would have under Rambis
Vogel, Thibs, Brooks, and Walton have all been officially announced.
a) will get resolved in time and likely makes him a good bench player.
If b) gets resolved, he's a starter.
Free Agency, Bismack Biyombo, Toronto Raptors
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6 hours ago – via Twitter JMichaelCSN
J. Michael Falgoust: Had convo w/a GM today. I guessed $10-12M & got laughed at. “Higher!”–> Toronto’s Biyombo could command $17M a year nba.nbcsports.com/2016/05/25/rep…
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Things like coaching hires during the playoffs. This came out bc the media got wind of it, I'm sure it will be "official" after the finals
As for Hornacek, I agree that a guy like Grant has a much better chance of developing now that he would have under Rambis
Vogel, Thibs, Brooks, and Walton have all been officially announced.
I may be wrong, but weren't they all basically before the playoffs (or in the early stages)? I just recall reading somewhere the NBA wants teams to wait till after the finals.
Or, maybe there's some skullduggery still afoot...who knows...
Last we heard was that they were discussing terms. Do I think something is going to derail this coaching hire? No. But when it's MSG you can't rule anything out.
Free Agency, Bismack Biyombo, Toronto Raptors
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6 hours ago – via Twitter JMichaelCSN
J. Michael Falgoust: Had convo w/a GM today. I guessed $10-12M & got laughed at. “Higher!”–> Toronto’s Biyombo could command $17M a year nba.nbcsports.com/2016/05/25/rep…
Shit I was under the impression that he signed a 3 year $12M contract but maybe I got confused with O'Quinn. That would've been an insane contract to have him on but I guess he signed a 1+1 opt out like Williams. He's making scraps now, im sure a team will give him a crap ton but $17M a year?! Not quite sure what team would give him that. I've seen him as a starting quality big the last 2 years but my god that would be quite the signing. No wonder he smiles so damn much when he makes shots in the playoffs.
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Things like coaching hires during the playoffs. This came out bc the media got wind of it, I'm sure it will be "official" after the finals
As for Hornacek, I agree that a guy like Grant has a much better chance of developing now that he would have under Rambis
Vogel, Thibs, Brooks, and Walton have all been officially announced.
I may be wrong, but weren't they all basically before the playoffs (or in the early stages)? I just recall reading somewhere the NBA wants teams to wait till after the finals.
Or, maybe there's some skullduggery still afoot...who knows...
No, that only applies for assistant coaches who are currently on teams still in the playoffs. Kenny Atkinson was named Nets HC while the Hawks were still in the playoffs but could not sign his contract until they were booted. Same with Luke Walton who is the new Lakers coach but can't sign a contract until after tonight.
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Wasn't that his nickname with the Jazz? I seem to remember Marv always trying to give us the straight face when saying it and his co-host smirking.
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That's pretty ridiculous. Biyombo has become a very solid player but that's a ton of coin for a guy who isn't a game changer.
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The lesson here is that the cap has exploded, will explode again next offseason, and the 2016 free agent crop is bad.
So he'd be making the same amount of money as DJ but considering the $110M potential cap that's actually a good looking deal for a reliable rim protector and rebounder.
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It just doesn't seem right calling JH (Horny). We got to do something about that. Please post some new names. BTW "Fat Ray" sucks! Had to say it one more time.
Wasn't that his nickname with the Jazz? I seem to remember Marv always trying to give us the straight face when saying it and his co-host smirking.
Even noted curmudgeon Jerry Sloan referred to him as Horny, in fact NBA.com even refers to him as that
"Discovered with the 46th overall pick in 1986, Jeff Hornacek played six seasons in Phoenix becoming one of the Suns' all-time sharpshooters and one of the fans' all-time favorites. In 1991-92, his final season before being traded to Philadelphia in the deal that brought Charles Barkley to Arizona, "Horny" led the team in scoring with 20.1 points and was named to the Western Conference All-Star team. Over his career in Phoenix, the 6-4 guard averaged 13.7 points, 5.4 assists and 3.7 rebounds, while shooting 51 percent from the floor. Hornacek was traded on June 17, 1992 in the deal that brought Charles Barkley to Phoenix."
I'm going through the list of FA's and I can see 11 max contracts right off the bat (including 1+1 deals):
Lebron, KD, Drummond, Conley, Derozan, Horford, Beal, Whiteside, Batum, Wade and D12
Then there's a crop of guys who are going to get deals in the $12-$20M range (or damn near it):
Biyombo, Parsons, Fournier, Bazemore, Anderson, Gasol, Barnes, Marvn Williams, Courtney Lee, Jordan Clarkson, Derrick Williams, Crabbe, and possibly Afflalo and Waiters.
So virtually every team outside the Sixers will be spending a lot on just 1 player.
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would easily be a max player based on his numbers. Crazy.
I'm going through the list of FA's and I can see 11 max contracts right off the bat (including 1+1 deals):
Lebron, KD, Drummond, Conley, Derozan, Horford, Beal, Whiteside, Batum, Wade and D12
Then there's a crop of guys who are going to get deals in the $12-$20M range (or damn near it):
Biyombo, Parsons, Fournier, Bazemore, Anderson, Gasol, Barnes, Marvn Williams, Courtney Lee, Jordan Clarkson, Derrick Williams, Crabbe, and possibly Afflalo and Waiters.
So virtually every team outside the Sixers will be spending a lot on just 1 player.
If wade takes max he is not stayimg in miami
Not how the cap works...
There are cap holds so when whiteside and wade become free sgents they font automatically have cap space to sign players snd then sign wade and whiteside after, not how it works...
Plus they do not have whitside bird rights so if they give wade max then they do not have enough for whiteside
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but didn't Wade take a 1 year deal to give Miami flexibility this past season so they could give him the max this year? And they could fit a max (or near it) for Wade and Whiteside right? Also in the chance Bosh retires it would be a forgone conclusion that they will max Wade, no?
Not how the cap works...
There are cap holds so when whiteside and wade become free sgents they font automatically have cap space to sign players snd then sign wade and whiteside after, not how it works...
Plus they do not have whitside bird rights so if they give wade max then they do not have enough for whiteside
Well I'm assuming they dont go after major FA's outside the ones on their own team. How much can they offer Wade if they give Whiteside the max? It would still be in the $20M+ range right? I wasn't trying to be technical about how much Wade was gonna get other than that he is gonna still be making a lot somewhere. I have a hard time seeing Wade signing another team friendly deal under $20M a year.
losing to MJ's bulls twice in the finals is nothing to be ashamed of. Prior to that they simply weren't as good as the mid 90s Sonics and Rockets.
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but didn't Wade take a 1 year deal to give Miami flexibility this past season so they could give him the max this year? And they could fit a max (or near it) for Wade and Whiteside right? Also in the chance Bosh retires it would be a forgone conclusion that they will max Wade, no?
Not how the cap works...
There are cap holds so when whiteside and wade become free sgents they font automatically have cap space to sign players snd then sign wade and whiteside after, not how it works...
Plus they do not have whitside bird rights so if they give wade max then they do not have enough for whiteside
I still cant get over the fact that you thought last year's would be as good as the 07 defense. They were literally one of the worst defenses in NFL history.
Stephen Curry: The two-time reigning MVP had a season for the ages, leading the league in scoring for the record-breaking Warriors. Curry broke his own three-point record by pouring in a staggering 402 treys and joined the 50/40/90 club.
Russell Westbrook: The electric point guard averaged over 23 points, 10 assists and nearly eight rebounds for the season, and he racked up 18 triple-doubles in the process. Those 18 triple-doubles tied Magic Johnson for the most in a single season in the last 50 years.
LeBron James: James shook off some three-point shooting woes to put forth another superb campaign. The King averaged 25 points, seven rebounds and seven assists while shooting 52 percent overall for the Eastern Conference's top squad.
Kawhi Leonard: Leonard not only won Defensive Player of the Year for the second straight season, but he also blossomed as a star on the offensive end. He scored a career-high 21 points per game and shot over 44 percent from long range, which was good for fourth in the league.
DeAndre Jordan: Like teammate Chris Paul, Jordan stepped up in a big way with Blake Griffin sidelined for half the season. Jordan anchored the Clippers' defense, gobbled up nearly 14 rebounds per game and shot over 70 percent from the field for the second straight season.
SECOND TEAM
Kevin Durant: Durant bounced back from his injury-ravaged 2014-15 campaign to post one of the best seasons of his career. He averaged 28 points, eight rebounds and five assists while posting a 51/39/90 shooting line for the 55-win Thunder.
Draymond Green: Green was the Defensive Player of the Year runner-up for the second straight season, and he also emerged as one of the best all-around players in the league, as evidenced by his 13 triple-doubles. His versatility on both ends is a major reason why the Warriors' small ball alignments are so dominant.
Chris Paul: Before Paul's year was disappointingly cut short in the postseason thanks to a broken hand, he put forth a magnificent regular season that saw him notch nearly 20 points and 10 assists per game. The point guard's brilliance helped the Clippers thrive despite a lengthy absence for Blake Griffin.
Damian Lillard: The Trail Blazers weren't even supposed to make the playoffs after a mass exodus of talent, but Lillard helped them defy the odds. While he was snubbed from the All-Star Game, he rightfully earns a spot on an All-NBA team after putting up over 25 points per game.
DeMarcus Cousins: It was another tumultuous season in Sacramento, but Cousins once again put up big numbers. The big man scored a career-high 27 points per game and grabbed nearly 12 boards per game as well.
THIRD TEAM
Kyle Lowry: Lowry enjoyed a career season for the 56-win Raptors by notching over 21 points and six assist per game. Not only did he set career highs in scoring and usage, but he also was the most efficient he's ever been and scored the second-most fourth-quarter points in the league.
Paul George: George missed most of last season because of the devastating leg injury he suffered in the summer of 2014, but he bounced back and played in 81 of 82 games this year to lead the Indiana Pacers back to the postseason. He set a career high in scoring with over 23 points per game to go along with seven boards and four dimes per game.
LaMarcus Aldridge: It took some time for last offseason's biggest acquisition to get acclimated with the Spurs, but he quickly figured things out and helped them to 67 victories. Aldridge's scoring was naturally down in San Antonio, but he posted a career-high true shooting percentage.
Klay Thompson: Somewhat lost in the madness of his fellow Splash Brother hitting 402 three-pointers, Thompson nailed the most three-pointers ever in a season by a player not named Stephen Curry. Thompson knocked down 276 treys and scored a career-high 22 points per game.
Andre Drummond: Drummond led the league in total rebounding and offensive rebounding, and he posted five 20/20 games and made his first All-Star Game. His historically bad free throw shooting put a stain on his season, but his overall development helped the Pistons return to the postseason for the first time since 2009."
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James Harden: There was a lot of focus on Harden's defensive lowlights and lack of leadership throughout the Rockets' disappointing campaign, but he was still an extremely prolific contributor. He finished second in the league in scoring at 29 points per game and also handed out nearly eight assists per contest.
Paul Millsap: Millsap's 17 points and nine rebounds per game don't jump off the page, but his impact on the Hawks is immense. He's also a solid passer and his superb defense is a major reason why Atlanta finished second in the NBA in defensive efficiency.
Anthony Davis: Davis didn't take the leap many hoped and had his season cut short by multiple injuries, but he did still put up 24 points and 10 rebounds per game. Nevertheless, this snub cost him around $24 million."
They would also have to renounce wades rights to sign whitesidr unless wade takes less before whiteside signs
There are just inconsistencies everywhere. Aldridge made the 3rd team because of how well the Spurs played but they make Cousins on the 2nd team? I don't see how Davis doesn't make it. Are injuries really worse than being a disruptive, selfish player or going to an already elite team as a free agent?