Concerns with Giants OL go deeper than the right side

...they can then shunt whoever is replaced in the starting lineup into a backup role to improve depth.

Two birds, one stone.

People complain when they sign expensive free agents. People complain that late round draft picks never emerge.

It is what it is, unless they choose to invest in a player they think helps more then what they have and at a reasonable price.

save for possibly the Cowboys, most if not all teams have the same fucking problems on the OL as we do. Hopefully, we upgrade the right side. If not, then we'll have to suck it up with what we have as other teams do and hope that we're strong enough in other areas to compensate for any lack or perceived lack..Eli, OBJ and an improved D(on paper) is a nice start

like making the fanbase hysterical with anxiety.

one stone ...one bird.....hell i wish we could get a Stone again.

Of course you don't know until you see them play, but a developmental player on the practice squad has had the advantage of an off-season program, something a UDFA hasn't.

Do we think that any of our practice squad OL have above-average potential?

And will be on his back...with all the panic

Since the beginning of free agency

In comment 12972499 Big Blue '56 said:

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save for possibly the Cowboys, most if not all teams have the same fucking problems on the OL as we do. Hopefully, we upgrade the right side. If not, then we'll have to suck it up with what we have as other teams do and hope that we're strong enough in other areas to compensate for any lack or perceived lack..Eli, OBJ and an improved D(on paper) is a nice start

Don't forget, we could have made a play for Collins in the last round or even as an UDFA last year or Tunsil this year. Hell, I was even clamoring for Henderson (Bills) when he fell like a rock from a 1-2 rd to the 7th in 2014! Who is responsible for the lack of talent and/or player evaluation, there is your culprit!

In comment 12972568 dg901 said:

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In comment 12972499 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: save for possibly the Cowboys, most if not all teams have the same fucking problems on the OL as we do. Hopefully, we upgrade the right side. If not, then we'll have to suck it up with what we have as other teams do and hope that we're strong enough in other areas to compensate for any lack or perceived lack..Eli, OBJ and an improved D(on paper) is a nice start Don't forget, we could have made a play for Collins in the last round or even as an UDFA last year or Tunsil this year. Hell, I was even clamoring for Henderson (Bills) when he fell like a rock from a 1-2 rd to the 7th in 2014! Who is responsible for the lack of talent and/or player evaluation, there is your culprit!

Collins yes. We were stupid, imo..We should have taken a chance.I'll always feel that way

Tunsil: No

said he wouldnt sign unless he was drafted high, if I recall correctly

In comment 12972638 Paulie Walnuts said:

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said he wouldnt sign unless he was drafted high, if I recall correctly

But afterward he said it was a bluff.

In comment 12972538 Remdad said:

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Of course you don't know until you see them play, but a developmental player on the practice squad has had the advantage of an off-season program, something a UDFA hasn't. Do we think that any of our practice squad OL have above-average potential?

that signing a vet or two that are a victims of post June 1st cuts are among the plans Reese has to provide some serviceable backups on the OL.

In comment 12972638 Paulie Walnuts said:

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said he wouldnt sign unless he was drafted high, if I recall correctly

Yup, but most of us felt it was a bluff..For a 7th? In a heartbeat..Worst case if he wasn't bluffing? We lose a 7th..Easily worth the chance imo

When rosters have to go to 53(?). They should be able to pick someone up - if they think it is necessary.

still being pedaled around here? Holy fuck the whole league passed on him. Outside of what we know about the guy there's a ton that we as fans don't know. Saying we should have just drafted him is so damn lame.

And Reese still hasn't done anything about it.

1. "Schwartz having been released and playing in Detroit." The season's young.

2. Hart seems to be following the path that non-high draft picks who eventually get playing time take. It may work out.

3. Camp hasn't started yet. There are still FA's and eventually June 1 cuts to consider.

In comment 12972788 Red Dog said:

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And Reese still hasn't done anything about it.

What's the rush?

For the most we do have the depth. What we don't have are the front line starters on the right side of the line. Jerry and Newhouse are both bench players who happen to be starting.

have a perfect team with pro bowlers in every position and above average backup players. That's a pipe dream.

So much parity thanks to the cap setup that a team has to be built with strengths balancing out weaknesses. Every once in awhile late round draft picks and undrafted players on the practice squad surprise and become studs. That's a lucky team when nobodies become somebodies (Tom Brady, Victor Cruz, Wes Walker, Antonio Gates, Cameron Wake, etc.). When you hit on a player like that - you beat the system. But even after winning the big one, it's nearly impossible to keep your own stars and hence the ultra-short lived dynasties.

at this Point ..
You Never Know when a decent Vet Gets Beat out
and becomes a casualty ..
Our Biggest Concern that None of the Drafted
O-line go down ..
We all know there were far to many holes to plug ..
I am confident we add someone before the regular
season...

this off season. I wanted OL upgrades as much as anyone, but they either had to overpay for someone in FA or hope the draft broke right for an OL pick. Neither happened so they just have to see if anyone shakes loose before the season starts.

It does not exist in the NFL. Most teams cant field 5 guys let alone have depth.

Roster size and age dictate a lot of this. Reality is you may keep 9-10 OL, but you are only dressing 8 on game day. 1-2 of your OL are in-active every game

C. Brown signed another contract with Dallas as their b/u LT to T. Smith. That says all you need to know about finding quality depth

Sorry, but many of us still suffer PTSD from THIS shit. Having zero depth causes valid worry.

there seems to be minimal dropoff. Two guys go down and they show some weaknesses but get by during game.

A Giant O-lineman goes down and we immediately struggle. Two guys go down and its a shit-show.

just sayin'...

is the backup center?

What happens if Pugh suffers a concussion?

Who are the backups, to our backups of Jerry and Newhouse?

The OL took a backseat on Jerry's wishlist this year....

This guy's opinion of Eli's window.....

60% of our offensive line is a question. There was a reason why we had the worst rated OT's in all of football. There is a reason why we were so lousy running the ball inside the red zone. There is a reason why we couldn't run out the clock well late in games last year (it was more than the coach). There is a reason why we aren't favored to win our division and overall have better odds to win it all etc despite having such good stats last year and a premiere QB and WR and very good off-season pickups and a very good rated draft.

We just got to hope everything falls into place.

In comment 12972500 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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like making the fanbase hysterical with anxiety.

TTH, may be, but the article identifies a very legitimate, very big concern. If our D has more questions than the O, that could very well reverse when guys go down.

Klaatu, it's not "what's the rush?", it's Where is the rush?

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"Sometimes the answer is on your roster," general manager Jerry Reese said prior to the draft. "We do have some guys that we like."

Yeah, right, how many times have we heard that line over the past seven years?

Back in 2010, the Giants didn't sign him until August 20 (the Eagles released him on March 17 that year). There's still plenty of time for the Giants to evaluate what they have on their roster, while keeping one eye on the waiver wire. And who knows? Maybe Mike Solari can teach John Jerry how to run-block?

Starters are great, after that its really shaky. We know Spags likes to rotate in DL and we saw what happened in 2008 towards the end of the season as the starters on the dominant DL (DT in particularly) got worn out and we had not depth to keep them fresh.

In comment 12975091 Klaatu said:

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Back in 2010, the Giants didn't sign him until August 20 (the Eagles released him on March 17 that year). There's still plenty of time for the Giants to evaluate what they have on their roster, while keeping one eye on the waiver wire. And who knows? Maybe Mike Solari can teach John Jerry how to run-block?

Don't you mean John Jerry will teach Mike Solari how to run-block?

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