I work very long hours, and it would be nice if, one or two days a month (or even just a few times per year), I were allowed to work from home and maybe, you know, hang out with my family a little bit between Monday and Friday. The way a law firm works, if I bill hours, it makes no difference to the firm's bottom line where I actually am when those hours are billed. We have Citrix and can work remotely just fine. Yet, with really no rationale other than "just because," my firm does not and apparently will never permit people to do a full days' work from home, even a few days a year. Either haul your ass in, or take a personal or vacation day.
I speak to people in other industries (and even some other law firms), and they are in disbelief at our inflexible policy, which seems to be a pre-internet and pre-Citrix relic.
What are your employers' work from home policies? Does anyone have a formerly inflexible employer who liberalized in this regard?
I did travel up to 75% of the time a couple of those years, but now it's like 25% of the time max.
There are pros and cons, but the pros far outweigh the cons.
I think it's ridiculous someone in your situation couldn't work from home, though.
I'm trying to come up with a nice way to do just that.
Such places to work are out there, just got to find one. Even big banks are moving to the Citrix/remote model these days.
I think it's ridiculous someone in your situation couldn't work from home, though.
I normally leave my house anywhere between 6:45 and 7:30 am depending on what train I catch, and I am usually not home until around 8:40-9:30 pm.
But, I can't opt to work from home at my discretion and even during special situations, like the blizzard, working from home was not an option. I had to go to an office, as that was the published rule. Yet, someone in my group with no VPN and in a lesser role but 40 years in stayed home and said he was working from home and he didn't lose a day.
I had a conversation with him that times are changing and his response was pretty much "people need to be here. Period". Weird because other than that, he was a pretty reasonable guy.
Having been a supervisor for 20+ years, I think there are some people who can be almost as productive when working from home, but many can't.
If you're job involves interacting with people, integration, communication etc., all suffer when people work from home.
It is likely most of us work with people in different cities, states and even countries. I think it is one thing to have customers, suppliers etc. off site, and another to have many team members working remotely.
I had a conversation with him that times are changing and his response was pretty much "people need to be here. Period". Weird because other than that, he was a pretty reasonable guy.
It's just a very ossified way of thinking. I feel like they'd need to lose a couple of people over it before they even thought about doing something.
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I often do half-days at home if I have meetings elsewhere. Or I can work from home if the weather's bad and the trains suck.
I think it's ridiculous someone in your situation couldn't work from home, though.
I normally leave my house anywhere between 6:45 and 7:30 am depending on what train I catch, and I am usually not home until around 8:40-9:30 pm.
That's absurd. I have to imagine others within the firm share your position and just haven't spoken up yet.
Top 10 Pros of working from home in my experience:
1. Commute
2. Dress code, yep I have worked in my boxers and rarely wear shoes
3. Don't need to eat lunch out or make in advance
4. Spend my day how I want other than when I have meetings
5. Can multi-task - like vacuum the pool while on a conference call
6. Company subsidized Internet Service, local phone (still have it) and by default TV (Verizon triple play is cheaper as a bundle)
7. Company provided consumables like printer paper and printer ink
8. Ok, I'll say it, Porn
9. Not having to use a public bathroom
10. Can usually make my kid's school activities
Top 5 Cons (because there aren't more than 5 really)
1. You never leave the office, I'd be working sometimes at midnight or later. My rationalization is I would have left the office and finished up the work at home anyway, but when you work from home you're always at work.
2. It's hard to build co-worker camaraderie. Maybe not a big deal to some, but some of my closest friends began as work colleagues
3. Too many distractions
4. Your significant other asks you to do various household tasks "because you're home"
5. The kitchen is too close
I see reasons to let someone work from home occasionally, but depending on what you do it really matters to be in a central location IMO. At my old firm I had an associate who worked from home every friday with permission after she returned from maternity leave. On her own, she put an end to that after about a year, saying that she wasnt learning as much, didnt have the same open door access to bounce ideas around, and missed the collaboration by being home that day. She ended up doing more stuff on her own, wasting time on things paralegals could be doing. I think she was right.
I see reasons to let someone work from home occasionally, but depending on what you do it really matters to be in a central location IMO. At my old firm I had an associate who worked from home every friday with permission after she returned from maternity leave. On her own, she put an end to that after about a year, saying that she wasnt learning as much, didnt have the same open door access to bounce ideas around, and missed the collaboration by being home that day. She ended up doing more stuff on her own, wasting time on things paralegals could be doing. I think she was right.
I am in agreement with you. I would not advocate, and would not want to, work entirely or even primarily from home. I often feel I am more productive at the office than at home. But one or two days a month it would really be handy to have the option, rather than have to waste a personal or vacation day.
The wife definitely takes advantage of it, but just saving on the commute is an extra hour/day I have to spend with my daughter and/or relax.
It's definitely not for everyone though. You have to be fairly disciplined and self motivated to avoid distractions.
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I work for myself and my partners, and we do as we please.
I see reasons to let someone work from home occasionally, but depending on what you do it really matters to be in a central location IMO. At my old firm I had an associate who worked from home every friday with permission after she returned from maternity leave. On her own, she put an end to that after about a year, saying that she wasnt learning as much, didnt have the same open door access to bounce ideas around, and missed the collaboration by being home that day. She ended up doing more stuff on her own, wasting time on things paralegals could be doing. I think she was right.
I am in agreement with you. I would not advocate, and would not want to, work entirely or even primarily from home. I often feel I am more productive at the office than at home. But one or two days a month it would really be handy to have the option, rather than have to waste a personal or vacation day.
I'll bet people at your company get sick a lot. Especially on Fridays and Tuesdays around three day weekends.
Get a dog. Forces you to get out and take in the "scenery"!
I'm an employer and the work-at-home model has not/does not work for us. Definitely not a one size fits all "improvement". Depends on the industry, the job, & the employee.
Such places to work are out there, just got to find one. Even big banks are moving to the Citrix/remote model these days.
I work from home or my wife's apartment in Boston using Citrix around 25% of the time. I'm guessing about 50% of the people I work with (same company) work from home full time.
My wife was nearly successfully recruited to leave her employer for another that promised her the ability to work from home a few days a week. The child-care savings alone would have represented almost $10k/year assuming that she could've effectively managed both.
Pretty hard to burn huts from home, unless you have a couple of drones. Then, I could see it being the best of all worlds.
Who said I don't have access to drones? You underestimate me, sir.
The way I would discuss this with a boss is that you are looking for a better life-work balance. There are a lot of studies that show when life and work are out of balance, most individuals burn out or are actually less productive. A happy workforce is a productive workforce.
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Pretty hard to burn huts from home, unless you have a couple of drones. Then, I could see it being the best of all worlds.
Who said I don't have access to drones? You underestimate me, sir.
I have a drone mission request. Could you oblige me by sending one by with a couple of bottles of Scotch?
Yeah...that would be a negative. We have important mission. There are a lot of huts that need burning.
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I have a drone mission request. Could you oblige me by sending one by with a couple of bottles of Scotch?
Yeah...that would be a negative. We have important mission. There are a lot of huts that need burning.
Fucker! I knew I shouldn't have trusted you to follow through! Well, OK, how about burning down Greg's hut for me?
It is great to WFH. Especially with young kids. I get to participate in alot more kids activities then if I was commuting everyday. Plus if the kids sick (or school is closed) I can watch them and work.
It really depends on the company though. The company has to be remote friendly. Otherwise working remotely full time you wind up getting sidelined. Fortunately my company is very remote friendly. We use google hangouts multiple times a day and use Slack for company communications. It also helped that another person on my team is fully remote and he started the same time I did.
I'm found acceptance of working from home has to do with management having trust in employees. While on conference calls, I cringe when I hear a baby or little kid crying in the background or someone forgets to go a mute and has a conversation with their spouse. I've even been on calls when the talker excuses themselves for a few minutes to answer their door !!! Its these types of behavior that feed management's concerns abt working from home.