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dep026 : 5/26/2016 8:12 pm
1st team:
Curry/Wesbtrook
Leonard/James
Jordan

2nd team:
Paul/Lillard
Durant/Green
Cousins

3rd Team:
Lowry/Thompson
George/Aldridge
Drummond

I am old school. I like the inclusions of centers. Biggest omission (or not really IMO) is James Harden. But it looks like they really got it right this time. Maybe John Wall has a gripe, but his team really struggled this year.
Harden is a huge omission  
Sly Guy : 5/26/2016 8:28 pm : link
Argument can even be made that he's first team (over Westbrook). I don't agree with that even as a Rockets fan but Harden is a huge omission.
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arcarsenal : 5/26/2016 8:30 pm : link
Probably because defense factors into the equation and Harden has no interest in playing it.
RE: Harden is a huge omission  
dep026 : 5/26/2016 8:34 pm : link
In comment 12973117 Sly Guy said:
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Argument can even be made that he's first team (over Westbrook). I don't agree with that even as a Rockets fan but Harden is a huge omission.


Westbrook is probably the early favorite for MVP next year. so, um, no he didnt deserve it over Westbrook.
For your entertainment  
dep026 : 5/26/2016 9:06 pm : link
The play against the Knicks gets me every time.
Harden 2015-2016 defensive highlights - ( New Window )
Cousins is immature but IMO he's 1st team over the likes of Jordan  
Mason : 5/26/2016 9:36 pm : link
Not only can he defend, rebound but he is an offensive machine.
The thing that jumped out to me is the C position.  
robbieballs2003 : 5/26/2016 9:43 pm : link
This is a huge drop off from the 90s in terms of the C position.
It's weird  
djm : 5/26/2016 10:04 pm : link
The NBA players are bigger and taller than ever but the quintessential center isn't as prominent these days. Now you have a league of big men with insane athletic ability playing both big and small ball.
not that he deserved it nor do I feel bad but  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2016 10:07 pm : link
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The Association announced All-NBA teams Thursday, and Anthony Davis' absence from the three elite five-man units cost him the chance to earn an extra $24 million.
Dead  
est1986 : 5/26/2016 10:29 pm : link
Wrong.
RE: For your entertainment  
Vin R : 5/26/2016 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12973140 dep026 said:
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The play against the Knicks gets me every time. Harden 2015-2016 defensive highlights - ( New Window )


That video is one of the funniest things I have ever seen..

Sorry Osi
RE: Harden is a huge omission  
Tuckrule : 5/27/2016 9:09 am : link
In comment 12973117 Sly Guy said:
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Argument can even be made that he's first team (over Westbrook). I don't agree with that even as a Rockets fan but Harden is a huge omission.


Is this James Harden posting? That is the most absurd comment I heard in a basketball thread all season long
The 90s  
Metnut : 5/27/2016 9:56 am : link
type of center is harder to fit in today's game. Teams can go small and the larger center will have a very hard time guarding the perimeter allowing teams to get open 3s and also taking the center out of the rebounding game.

I don't think  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/27/2016 10:00 am : link
Harden is a huge omission. He had no shot at first team over Curry or Westbrook.

After that, you have five top guards for four spots. I wouldn't have been surprised if he were 2nd team or off the list completely. Though he had an off-season injury, many still think he showed up out of shape due to partying with Kardashians.

Plus, while he put up excellent volume stats (and minutes), he wasn't very efficient an he set an NBA record for turnovers. The teams also performed dreadfully compared with last year which was a similar team.

There is a notion that for as well as Harden can score or create, that his style of play doesn't make his teammates better and so he isn't helping his team win as much as other players.

I take Chris Paul over Harden any day, especially after the way the Clippers played when Blake was out. His offensive efficiency, leadership, and defense I think cintributes more to wins than Harden.

So that leaves Lillard, Klay, and Lowry.

Lillard- great volume stats too. Equally bad defense. The difference is that while the Rockets were signficantly worse this season, the Blazers defied expectations dramatically. They lost 4(?) starters and yet performed better than the Rockets and many are rewarding LIllard with the credit.

Lowry- Second place team in the East and he was the clear leader of the team with a well-rounded game and some clutch moments-- he is getting credit for that.

Klay- in my opnion the second best player on a team that just won 73-games, an NBA record. Maybe Harden is better than Klay, but people were rewarding a historical season and crediting Klay with helping his team win those games. Plus, he does everything well.

It's not a huge omission to leave off Harden, but a Harden inclusion would have made sense as well.
RE: not that he deserved it nor do I feel bad but  
Enzo : 5/27/2016 10:12 am : link
In comment 12973181 pjcas18 said:
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The Association announced All-NBA teams Thursday, and Anthony Davis' absence from the three elite five-man units cost him the chance to earn an extra $24 million.

there's a million stupid things in the CBA but having this level of compensation tied to a media vote might be the dumbest. I hope the new union head tears the whole thing up next year. Go with and NFL style hard cap and call it a day. Or no cap but with a punitive tax like MLB. Anything would be better then what they currently have.
RE: The thing that jumped out to me is the C position.  
Deej : 5/27/2016 10:21 am : link
In comment 12973172 robbieballs2003 said:
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This is a huge drop off from the 90s in terms of the C position.


A little flukey re timing IMO. Davis is a top 5 player but was hurt (I would have put him 1st team, and not had Jordan on the top 3 teams). Towns is pretty likely to be top 5-10 sooner rather than later. Porzingis may become a center and join KAT in the top 10. Cousins is a total beast but is in a shitty situation with bad teammates. Lots of under 25 players at the position with a lot of talent (including Kanter, Valanciunis, Jokic, Drummond, Capela, Gobert, Okafor).

Also remember the game has changed. 90s basketball was built for the high end center (though the greats of that era would all be great today). Post up offenses, isolations, slower play. Today's centers need to defend out in space and make fast decisions. The position is actually pretty impressive IMO.
LOL James Harden  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/27/2016 10:31 am : link
and LOL James Harden playing for mike d'antoni
Nitpicking  
giantsfan44ab : 5/27/2016 10:36 am : link
But I would have put KD over Kawhi.
RE: The 90s  
Enzo : 5/27/2016 10:48 am : link
In comment 12973447 Metnut said:
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type of center is harder to fit in today's game. Teams can go small and the larger center will have a very hard time guarding the perimeter allowing teams to get open 3s and also taking the center out of the rebounding game.

Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, and Zo would all be extremely valuable in today's game - if not more. Hakeem, Robinson, and Zo had the foot speed to guard on the perimeter, Shaq would dominate in any era, and Ewing and Zo had enough range to make them legit stretch 5s. And guys who can protect the rim are always valuable.
Green  
KWALL2 : 5/27/2016 10:52 am : link
Is severely overrated.
Aldridge?  
KWALL2 : 5/27/2016 10:54 am : link
He's twice the player or more. A guy who can be the #1 guy on a great team. Green is a complimentary piece.
RE: Aldridge?  
giantsfan44ab : 5/27/2016 11:10 am : link
In comment 12973538 KWALL2 said:
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He's twice the player or more. A guy who can be the #1 guy on a great team. Green is a complimentary piece.


Aldridge is nice but he has never been the #1 guy on a team that went out of the 2nd round for the majority of his career. Green isn't a #1 but is better at every aspect outside scoring compared to LMA. I don't think it's a coincidence that Curry rose to MVP the same year Green had his breakout season.
Harden's absolutely better than Lowry or Lillard  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/27/2016 11:14 am : link
His defense is awful but he's one of the best offensive forces in the game and carried a mess of a Rockets team into the playoffs.

Lowry and Lillard had better storylines this year, while the Rockets were a leaguewide joke. But Harden's better than those 2.

Kawhi deserved 1st team over Durant, too bad Durant couldn't make it over Jordan. Durant deserved to make 1st team even if Kawhi and LeBron were a hair better imo.
the reason there are no good centers  
hitdog42 : 5/27/2016 11:22 am : link
is because there are no good centers... has nothing to do with todays style... if there were good post centers, they would dominate just the same.
how can you keep James wesley Harden off..  
BCD : 5/27/2016 2:07 pm : link
they will be some killings this weekend!!!!
sign Jesse
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