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NFT: Is the Hot Dog a Sammich?

gidiefor : Mod : 5/28/2016 7:49 am
Merriam-Webster says they are:

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We know: the idea that a hot dog is a sandwich is heresy to some of you. But given that the definition of sandwich is "two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between," there is no sensible way around it. If you want a meatball sandwich on a split roll to be a kind of sandwich, then you have to accept that a hot dog is also a kind of sandwich.


Well is the Hot Dog a Sammich?


My opinion: a hot dog bun is more of a wrapper than a split roll. Even when you use a slice of bread to wrap around it, you only use one slice. Is it thus, a half sandwich without the possibility of being a whole sammich? See -- it just doesn't fit the role (or roll). I'm afraid that Merriam-Webster is plain wrong!
Merriam-Webster - To Chew On: 10 Kinds of Sandwiches - ( New Window )
The hotdog is an American tradition  
joeinpa : 5/28/2016 8:06 am : link
Targeted for every summer holiday and cook out. There are hotdogs at every American sporting event and we even have a contest on Independence Day to see who can eat the most. There is no limit to whT you can put on a dog and all around the country you see restaurants labeled with some word followed by Hotdogs. Ex. Tommy s Hotdog.

Categorizing hotdog as a sandwich is unamerican and just one more example of how the commies are trying to destroy our country.

I could never see myself voting for D Trump, but this could turn the tide.
No  
mrvax : 5/28/2016 8:16 am : link
but a hamburger is.
Giddy  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/28/2016 8:33 am : link
When the hell did you become bb56
So wait  
BigBlueShock : 5/28/2016 8:36 am : link
Are there people around that call meatballs on a split roll, aka, a sub roll a sandwich? I've never heard it called a sandwich. It's ALWAYS a meatball sub, or meatball hoagie. NEVER a meatball sandwich. So their entire argument for calling hots dogs on a roll a sandwich is null and void. The only way to eat a hot dog is on a hot dog bun, and that does not qualify as a sandwich. If you eat it between two pieces of bread, feel free to call it a hot dog sandwich. And you'll deserve everything you get, in both regards, you unAmerican freak!
I feel like we have this conversation every six months on BBI  
Moondawg : 5/28/2016 8:39 am : link
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Also, ketchup is for kids and the damned.
I always thought  
Ira : 5/28/2016 8:54 am : link
it was a meatball hero.
RE: I feel like we have this conversation every six months on BBI  
Bill in UT : 5/28/2016 8:56 am : link
In comment 12974442 Moondawg said:
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I think it's more like every 3 months
RE: Giddy  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/28/2016 9:01 am : link
In comment 12974437 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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When the hell did you become bb56


Ahhh Ummmm -- like never!
This is very confusing  
Big Al : 5/28/2016 9:01 am : link
I see definitions defining a sandwich as having two pieces of bread. Is a hot dog bun one or two pieces of bread? I also see things such as gyros or wraps listed as a type of sandwich. I just blame it on the inexactness of the English language. The definition of marriage has changed over the years so we need a similar change for sandwich.
So a hot dog isn't a sandwich,  
BlueLou : 5/28/2016 9:04 am : link
But it is either a hero, or hoagie, or sub?



Get outta here...
RE: So wait  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/28/2016 9:06 am : link
In comment 12974439 BigBlueShock said:
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Are there people around that call meatballs on a split roll, aka, a sub roll a sandwich? I've never heard it called a sandwich. It's ALWAYS a meatball sub, or meatball hoagie. NEVER a meatball sandwich. So their entire argument for calling hots dogs on a roll a sandwich is null and void. The only way to eat a hot dog is on a hot dog bun, and that does not qualify as a sandwich. If you eat it between two pieces of bread, feel free to call it a hot dog sandwich. And you'll deserve everything you get, in both regards, you unAmerican freak!


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RE: So wait  
Big Al : 5/28/2016 9:09 am : link
In comment 12974439 BigBlueShock said:
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Are there people around that call meatballs on a split roll, aka, a sub roll a sandwich? I've never heard it called a sandwich. It's ALWAYS a meatball sub, or meatball hoagie. NEVER a meatball sandwich. So their entire argument for calling hots dogs on a roll a sandwich is null and void. The only way to eat a hot dog is on a hot dog bun, and that does not qualify as a sandwich. If you eat it between two pieces of bread, feel free to call it a hot dog sandwich. And you'll deserve everything you get, in both regards, you unAmerican freak!
Po Boy?
Prepare to have your world changed forever.  
smshmth8690 : 5/28/2016 9:45 am : link
I submit  
fkap : 5/28/2016 9:49 am : link
that a hotdog is a filling for a sub sandwich, and that we order it incorrectly. it's a hotdog with or without a bun.
Perhaps defying all logic I present the Torta Cubano.  
smshmth8690 : 5/28/2016 9:54 am : link
A Mexican specialty that includes ham, breaded & fried steak, or sometimes, a Fried Egg, usually 2 kinds of cheese, and a split hot dog. Topped with refried beans, pickled jalapenos, avocado, lettuce tomato & onions with mayo. Run don't walk.

RE: Prepare to have your world changed forever.  
BlueLou : 5/28/2016 9:59 am : link
In comment 12974497 smshmth8690 said:
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In Israel we make this baby: more room for kraut, slaw, and sliced pickles. Not to mention "amba" for the sauce...

Damn my img paste didn't work  
BlueLou : 5/28/2016 10:01 am : link
But that Cubans looks a helluva lot like a dog in a pita, our Israeli spin!

Great culinary minds at work. Eh Drew!
BlueLou -  
smshmth8690 : 5/28/2016 10:02 am : link
Were going to need some clarification! I'm dying to see the pic, and want to hear about 'Amba'....
RE: Damn my img paste didn't work  
smshmth8690 : 5/28/2016 10:03 am : link
In comment 12974521 BlueLou said:
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But that Cubans looks a helluva lot like a dog in a pita, our Israeli spin!

Great culinary minds at work. Eh Drew!


Believe me, if I didn't have to be in the kitchen in 2 hours, i would be hot dogs all day!
Amba  
smshmth8690 : 5/28/2016 10:07 am : link
After reading about a Hawaiian Hot Dog stand that used mango sauce, I tried hot dogs with a jarred mango salsa on it. Great pairing!
Any meat, cheese, veggies  
Pete in 'Vliet : 5/28/2016 10:12 am : link
Between bread is a sandwich. Nit all sanwuches are equal of course and there are many sub categories including hotdogs/ hoagies ect.
RE: Amba  
BlueLou : 5/28/2016 10:30 am : link
In comment 12974525 smshmth8690 said:
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After reading about a Hawaiian Hot Dog stand that used mango sauce, I tried hot dogs with a jarred mango salsa on it. Great pairing!


Had to break. Expecting a wine delivery.

Amba isn't quite like anything else, made from mangoes or not. It has a bitterness and pungency of aroma that no chutney or salsa of mangoes compares to. I'm guessing it's a fermented product (ha my field) and the fermentaion makes it more stable so it can stand in jars or plastic squeeze bittles unrefrigerated all day in the Israeli heat. North African origin I think. Did you Google search it?
...and the ketchup haters...  
Crispino : 5/28/2016 10:30 am : link
are making me feel uncomfortable. A little trigger warning would be nice.
RE: RE: Amba  
smshmth8690 : 5/28/2016 10:52 am : link
In comment 12974541 BlueLou said:
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In comment 12974525 smshmth8690 said:


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After reading about a Hawaiian Hot Dog stand that used mango sauce, I tried hot dogs with a jarred mango salsa on it. Great pairing!



Had to break. Expecting a wine delivery.

Amba isn't quite like anything else, made from mangoes or not. It has a bitterness and pungency of aroma that no chutney or salsa of mangoes compares to. I'm guessing it's a fermented product (ha my field) and the fermentaion makes it more stable so it can stand in jars or plastic squeeze bittles unrefrigerated all day in the Israeli heat. North African origin I think. Did you Google search it?


I did Google it, search claimed it was Iraqi. There are a few shops in the area, I'll be on the lookout for it.
I am currently fermenting about 10 pounds of habanero, for an extremely spicy batch of sriracha. Probably be good on a hot dog too!
When you buy hot dogs they don't come with bread.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/28/2016 10:54 am : link
When you buy a pound of cold cuts you don't say you bought a sandwich.
Yeah I found some recipes on the net too  
BlueLou : 5/28/2016 11:01 am : link
and none of them were fermented, so there goes that theory. At least one said pickled and did indeed call for cooking the mix and a significant amount of vinegar. And it seems to be Iraqi, not North African.
So other than everything about how to make it and it's culinary heritage, I was spot on...

It's good on a dog or a merguez sausage though. Just not too much,!
Is a hotdog on a bun a sammich?  
manh george : 5/28/2016 1:44 pm : link
Nope. A sammich has bread on the bottom and bread on the top. A hotdog on bun has bread on the left, bread on the right, and bread on the bottom. It's a "roll," just like a crab roll or a lobster roll.

A wrap isn't a sammich either.
'Is the Hot Dog a Sammich?'...  
Torrag : 5/28/2016 1:49 pm : link
...no. A good hot dog is Americana that you eat.
Since the hotdog is clearly not a sammich  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/28/2016 3:57 pm : link
Do you consider the sausage sandwich a sammich
Hot dog not a sammich, nor is a hamburger  
chopperhatch : 5/28/2016 4:02 pm : link
Just as a pizza is not a pie.
RE: Since the hotdog is clearly not a sammich  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/28/2016 4:08 pm : link
In comment 12974751 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Do you consider the sausage sandwich a sammich


sausage and peppers is a dish or a hero Lawrence
Sweet sausage and peppers are definitely a hero,  
Ira : 5/28/2016 4:24 pm : link
but with something that delicious, it really doesn't matter what you call it.
By hero, sub, or hoagie,  
Bill L : 5/28/2016 4:28 pm : link
You mean grinder, right?
RE: Hot dog not a sammich, nor is a hamburger  
Bill L : 5/28/2016 4:30 pm : link
In comment 12974755 chopperhatch said:
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Just as a pizza is not a pie.
not to miller, but is a patty melt the same thing as a hamburger, but a sandwich?
RE: By hero, sub, or hoagie,  
Bige711 : 5/28/2016 5:11 pm : link
In comment 12974772 Bill L said:
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You mean grinder, right?


I think that they mean Wedge.
Drew  
Bill in UT : 5/28/2016 5:23 pm : link
What's in that first sandwich you posted?
It looks like a Rachel Ray  
Bill in UT : 5/28/2016 5:58 pm : link
Hot Dog Croque Monsieur recipe I just found.
Are there actually functional illiterates who use the term...  
BMac : 5/28/2016 8:44 pm : link
...Sammich out there?
RE: Are there actually functional illiterates who use the term...  
Bill in UT : 5/28/2016 8:50 pm : link
In comment 12974955 BMac said:
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...Sammich out there?


That's really silly elitist nonsense. Lots of people who are as smart or smarter than you enjoy talking casually. I wrote Country lyrics for years knowing the whole time that my language wasn't "proper". I say sammich if the mood strikes me, but in actuality I really know the correct word.
Jimmy Buff's Italian Hot Dog - the best  
gogiants : 5/28/2016 9:16 pm : link
Bun, mustard, hot dog, onions, potatoes all fried up in grease. Hold the ketchup.


RE: RE: Are there actually functional illiterates who use the term...  
BMac : 5/28/2016 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12974959 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 12974955 BMac said:


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...Sammich out there?



That's really silly elitist nonsense. Lots of people who are as smart or smarter than you enjoy talking casually. I wrote Country lyrics for years knowing the whole time that my language wasn't "proper". I say sammich if the mood strikes me, but in actuality I really know the correct word.


Not talking proper. Talking childish. Get it?
RE: Jimmy Buff's Italian Hot Dog - the best  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/28/2016 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12974968 gogiants said:
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Bun, mustard, hot dog, onions, potatoes all fried up in grease. Hold the ketchup.



That was my dad's favorite. He took me there once and was an experience
You're Dad had good taste  
gogiants : 5/28/2016 10:37 pm : link
It was a classic. I used to go to the one in Irvington on Springfield Ave.
Yes  
Shadow : 5/28/2016 11:01 pm : link
Had a nice Lincoln Log sandwich today.
It doesn't matter if the hot dog is a sammich or not.  
Klaatu : 5/29/2016 1:03 am : link
As long as you don't put ketchup on it.
RE: RE: Hot dog not a sammich, nor is a hamburger  
chopperhatch : 5/29/2016 1:13 am : link
In comment 12974775 Bill L said:
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In comment 12974755 chopperhatch said:


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Just as a pizza is not a pie.

not to miller, but is a patty melt the same thing as a hamburger, but a sandwich?
my

You shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
RE: RE: RE: Are there actually functional illiterates who use the term...  
Bill in UT : 5/29/2016 1:31 am : link
In comment 12974969 BMac said:
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In comment 12974959 Bill in UT said:


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In comment 12974955 BMac said:


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...Sammich out there?



That's really silly elitist nonsense. Lots of people who are as smart or smarter than you enjoy talking casually. I wrote Country lyrics for years knowing the whole time that my language wasn't "proper". I say sammich if the mood strikes me, but in actuality I really know the correct word.



Not talking proper. Talking childish. Get it?


You want to call it childish, I couldn't care less. But you referred to it as functionally illiterate, and if you want to make a case for Gidie and I being in that classification I'm happy to let you go ahead and do that.
no  
SethFromAstoria : 5/29/2016 1:49 am : link
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no.
RE: You're Dad had good taste  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/29/2016 9:36 am : link
In comment 12975007 gogiants said:
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It was a classic. I used to go to the one in Irvington on Springfield Ave.


Yes my dad had great taste. He used to frequent the same one as he owned a candy store on Elwood Ave in Maplewood
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