"New Orleans Pelicans guard Bryce Dejean-Jones was shot and killed early Saturday morning after breaking down a door to a Dallas apartment, police said.
Dallas Police Senior Cpl. DeMarquis Black said in a statement a man living inside the apartment was sleeping when he heard his front door getting kicked opened. As Dejean-Jones tried to break into the bedroom, the man retrieved a handgun and fired shots at Dejean-Jones.
Responding officers found Dejean-Jones, 23, collapsed in a breezeway, and he later died at a hospital.
"We are devastated at the loss of this young man's life," the Pelicans said in a statement.
It is legal in Texas for someone to use deadly force in order to protect themselves from intruders.
ESPN reported that the apartment complex sent an email to its residents Saturday morning, saying that Dejean-Jones was “believed to be breaking into the apartment of an estranged acquaintance (but) in advertently broke into the wrong apartment.”"
Another source told ESPN that he was shot trying to enter his child’s mother’s home. ESPN reported that Dejean-Jones was in town to celebrate his daughter’s birthday but was involved in an argument with the child’s mother prior to the shooting incident.
Black said he couldn’t confirm whether Dejean-Jones was trying to access an acquaintance’s apartment.
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Thanks. Now we'll have every damn dishwasher grabber up in arms.
I would argue that breaking in the front door, and then attempting to kick in the bedroom door would satisfy any reasonable question that a threat existed. I wonder where you would have interjected the questions you believe were necessary to defend yourself.
Nah. It's more humane to just fire the deadly round(s). No need to make the intruder suffer unnecessarily.
The punk claims the guy with your wife's purse lives in apartment 7. You're in a fit of rage and proceed to kick the door in. The person living in the apartment shoots first, legally of course.
The punk claims the guy with your wife's purse lives in apartment 7. You're in a fit of rage and proceed to kick the door in. The person living in the apartment shoots first, legally of course.
I can't believe I was so stupid. R.I.P., but I only have myself to blame.
Is he going to give you a warning shot too?
First rule if you pick up a gun you use it. Not to wound but to kill.(In your house it's survival)
Warning shots get you killed. Burglars carry guns too. While you are firing warning shots he is putting three rounds in your chest.
If you pull out a gun you have to be ready to use it. The guys in your house are. You have no idea what they are on if you have an exsoldier who is good in close quarter shooting. A crackhead who is so high he thinks he is playing a video game. Thugs just being violent. Warning shot get you killed.
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Many of these legal shootings were mistakes or most likely unnecessary.
And some were not mistakes and not unnecessary. That information is unknown as it is happening. I don't understand the moral obligation for the totally innocent party to hesitate and increase their risk.
It's simple, a human life is at stake.
I'm done with this. I see it in a different light and I don't see opinions changing
Here is what I would do. Have the wife call 9-11 and go home with her. I would stay vigilant in case they came back, but my duty is to protect my family at all costs.
Your idea of a warning shot is not a good one. You miss a shot defending your life is one thing, a warning shot that goes through a wall/ricochets and harms someone else is another (this incident occurred at an apartment complex.
Now if somebody draws first and you don't react you are an idiot. If the danger is gone and you don't continue firing, then that is what you are supposed to do. If you fire after that person is no longer a threat, that is illegal.
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Many of these legal shootings were mistakes or most likely unnecessary.
And some were not mistakes and not unnecessary. That information is unknown as it is happening. I don't understand the moral obligation for the totally innocent party to hesitate and increase their risk.
It's simple, a human life is at stake.
I'm done with this. I see it in a different light and I don't see opinions changing
Nice rebuttal what are you ten?
Guns are not noise makers or props, they take lives.
I hope you never have to find out.
You don't shoot to wound but I can see that if this does happen to you
I hope the other guy is as kind. Most end up in the morgue when they think Hey my gun will scare him. Lots of bad people in the world. One chance
Underestimate the danger your life is in and you end up paying the price.
Wrong again most intruders carry a weapon.
an unarmed person can still be a deadly threat and that intruder has put the person in the house in an incredibly difficult situation. The intruder is responsible for what happens and I wouldn't second guess the person who was in their bedroom sleeping.
That's actually pretty harsh for a guy, who just went on several posts talking about giving a home intruder a chance. I know you meant it as jest, but sort of takes away from your own posts.
And yes, I have multiple guns ready to be used in locked cases, which can be opened in a few seconds.
I'm not sure if anyone covered this or not, but he was in an apartment...Where was the safe place to fire a warning shot? Now, I don't agree with that logic at all, but if your going to fire one, you need to make sure you fire in a safe direction.
You, sir, are an idiot. But I'm sure you're aware of that.
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Who said anything about not shooting if the intruder has a gun? I believe in most of these situations the intruder is unarmed.
You, sir, are an idiot. But I'm sure you're aware of that.
Violence is used in 7% of burglaries each year. Of that 7% the intruder was armed in 12%. In other words, the intruder was armed in a violent burglary in less than 1% of burglaries.... And of those the victim knew their attacker two-thirds of the time.
most of these situations the intruder is unarmed - ( New Window )
Lets just replay this situation, shall we?
Front door is kick in. You awake from a dead sleep to the noise going what the fuck is that? A second or 2 later your bedroom door is being broken down. You reach for your gun safe on the nightstand and retrieve your weapon just as the door is being smashed open.
Now, in most homes, never mind apartments, the distance from the bedroom door to the bed is ~5' or less.
So who is going to tell me that they are going to invite this guy to have a drink while you ask him, or her, whether they have the right residence or not?
Also, just so we are on the same page, this was a home invasion by someone looking to do harm.
Not a robbery so robbery statistics are meaningless.
If your going to use statistics, use them from the DOJ or FBI showing raw data.
Not a political site biased one way or the other that will skew that data towards their talking point.
As Twain opined, there are lies, damn lies, then there are statistics.
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Who said anything about not shooting if the intruder has a gun? I believe in most of these situations the intruder is unarmed.
You, sir, are an idiot. But I'm sure you're aware of that.
Violence is used in 7% of burglaries each year. Of that 7% the intruder was armed in 12%. In other words, the intruder was armed in a violent burglary in less than 1% of burglaries.... And of those the victim knew their attacker two-thirds of the time. most of these situations the intruder is unarmed - ( New Window )
Get behind something solid.
Can you give me some advice on how to thwart a shark attack while river rafting? Or perhaps, how to best survive simultaneous lightning strikes?
Your idea of a warning shot is not a good one. You miss a shot defending your life is one thing, a warning shot that goes through a wall/ricochets and harms someone else is another (this incident occurred at an apartment complex.
Yeah, as someone who once lived in an apartment building, I don't like the idea of a neighbor intentionally firing a shot that's not intended to hit something.
Do you know what it sounds like to have your door kicked in while you are sleeping? I do... not a good feeling. Laying there in the dark. IF someone walks into your room you cannot see if he is armed. By the time you try to rationalize morality and decide whether you should shoot or not. Meanwhile, you and/or someone you love is dead.
In the end, the morality is on the person who breaks in. They are doing it most likely knowing that someone is in the apt/home and is prepared to confront you.
If you want, I will agree to potentially shoot at or below the waist first and I am even struggling with that too.
The problem we have is that intruders believe that most people are not armed.
This whole shooting warning shots or shooting a possible rapist/murderer in the shoulder or ankle to disable him is usually said by someone who has no idea how chaotic scary and disorienting a situation like that is.
Someone kicking down your door in the middle of the night to hurt you or your family, you aim at him and shoot. Theres no time to aim precisely in those situations. All youll see is a big blurry figure in front of you. Point and shoot multiple times. Figure out the rest later. Dont wait till you get shot and your daughter/wife gets raped after.
Have any of you seen any statistics on the accuracy of police officers in pressure situations? Even at point blank range. It's pretty abysmal. And that's going on the presumption that the correct choice has been made, which is to fire.
Thats precisely why this whole "I saved __ because I was armed" is so amusing. Trained professionals can't hit center mass consistantly, but BBI's Dirty Harry would fire one into each shoulder. Right.
They are ripping you up ...how does that feel?
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If his ex had been in that apartment? Was he going to sit down and have a conversation with her? Death is always a tragedy, maybe this was drugs or alcohol turning him into someone he wasn't sober, but I sure as hell don't fault the guy who protected himself from a violent intrusion. And the ones who do sound ridiculous, frankly.
This.
Except death is not always a tragedy. But I do agree with the point: if someone breaks into your house at night and you do not know who it is, killing them is (regardless of what weapon you use) not a crime or an issue from a moral standpoint.
Offering him tea might not do it.
And, of course, had he gotten in the CORRECT door, he was only there to chat, right? Right.
Mr. Dejean-Jones fully earned a Darwin Award. I feel the most compassion for the poor guy who killed him, who now has to live with the guilt, and with the fear that one of the "victim's" buddies might want revenge. And there may even be a lawsuit from the "victim's" family.
So, this is how Dejean-Jones attends a celebration? He kicks in the door in the middle of the night to make it a surprise? The spin is already starting. The shooter better hire a good lawyer, because he is about to be sued.
You, on the other hand, have made ridiculously stupid statements.
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I agree that shadow's posts are usually idiotic, but in this one, your points are completely off the mark. As others have stated as well, to play the Monday morning quarterback when your life wasn't in danger is an epitome of arrogance. This apartment occupant was legally and morally right in defending himself against a threat he did not have any details on other than that he was violent in breaking into his apartment. For you to judge him when you 1) were not there to know how chaotic the situation was and 2) probably never felt the fear of possibly facing physical harm or death is so off the mark.
And you don't fire a warning shot in a dwelling as you may kill an innocent person with an errant shot. And disabling shots don't work, as accuracy in most stressful situation goes way down, which may again lead to an innocent person being shot behind and adjoining wall.
Do you feel better putting me down? Do you think it will make other think you are superior to me. It really made you look like fool.
You must really care what these posters in a sports forum think about you?
Wow
Where the hell did that come from?
Agree with Rob, never seen back pedaling like that in my life.
Then trying to ease it in by slamming shadow?
Pretty slick there AP.
While its sad to see a young man lose his life, he put himself in that situation by breaking the law.
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The resident did the right thing in this case. And Shadow is still an idiot.
Where the hell did that come from?
Agree with Rob, never seen back pedaling like that in my life.
Then trying to ease it in by slamming shadow?
Pretty slick there AP.
He is still trying to justify
WARNING SHOTS lol.