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NFT: Cincinnati Zoo Kills Gorilla to Protect Child

kelsto811 : 5/29/2016 11:31 am
The video is really scary to watch, they don't show the shooting but they do show the Gorilla with the child.

Getting away from the, it should have never happened in the first place...If it got to that, I can't see myself not jumping in there as an instant reaction. However, I guess that could make it much worse.
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I couldn't finish watching the video  
spike : 5/29/2016 11:34 am : link
but it looks like the Gorilla wasn't being threatening.

I'm not a fan of these pit displays where people can fall in, or adult holding a child up. Bronx Zoo has it right with a glass display where you can be right next to a gorilla.
Saw that last night  
Joey in VA : 5/29/2016 11:35 am : link
Kind of shit no matter how you slice it. Who the fuck isn't watching a toddler near a gorilla by the way? Shoot the parents.
Don't understand,  
XBRONX : 5/29/2016 11:37 am : link
gorillas are endangered, children are not.
brain dead parents  
spike : 5/29/2016 11:40 am : link
should not have children if they can't supervise them.
Dumbass parents are to blame  
moespree : 5/29/2016 11:41 am : link
Not the gorilla. It's too bad they had to kill the animal.
I think we have the  
Big Al : 5/29/2016 11:42 am : link
PETA input.
" mommy loves you" oh really  
gtt350 : 5/29/2016 11:43 am : link
jump in then
I'm surprised  
spike : 5/29/2016 11:46 am : link
no one jumped in, Anchorman style.
As Joey said, the situation is just shit any way you slice it.  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/29/2016 11:47 am : link
But I expected a lot worse knowing they shot the animal dead. He was with the kid for 10 minutes and never hurt it, and according to the main zookeeper (not sure of the right term), the animal never tried to harm the child. It sounds to me like an abundance of caution was used, but when is that abundance excessive and morally wrong?
RE: As Joey said, the situation is just shit any way you slice it.  
Big Al : 5/29/2016 11:50 am : link
In comment 12975315 Mike in Long Beach said:
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But I expected a lot worse knowing they shot the animal dead. He was with the kid for 10 minutes and never hurt it, and according to the main zookeeper (not sure of the right term), the animal never tried to harm the child. It sounds to me like an abundance of caution was used, but when is that abundance excessive and morally wrong?
Shitstorm either way if they did nothing and the child was harmed.
where was everyone?  
spike : 5/29/2016 11:52 am : link
"Maynard said it appeared the boy went under the rail, through wires and over the moat wall."

Someone should have said something to the kid's parents.
Any video of this  
est1986 : 5/29/2016 11:54 am : link
Hard to believe there isn't any video. The gorilla carried the child around. Wow.
The kid was probably better off  
est1986 : 5/29/2016 11:55 am : link
With the Gorilla than the parents.
RE: Any video of this  
spike : 5/29/2016 11:55 am : link
In comment 12975318 est1986 said:
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Hard to believe there isn't any video. The gorilla carried the child around. Wow.


The gorilla/kid went from one spot in the video and then after some editing, went to another spot around the corner
That video  
jhibb : 5/29/2016 11:55 am : link
skipped some rougher parts where it dragged the kid through the water.

That's some scary stuff.


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RE: The kid was probably better off  
gtt350 : 5/29/2016 12:28 pm : link
In comment 12975320 est1986 said:
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With the Gorilla than the parents.


the post of the year to date
RE: Don't understand,  
Patrick77 : 5/29/2016 12:31 pm : link
In comment 12975306 XBRONX said:
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gorillas are endangered, children are not.


Could have shot the child to protect the gorilla.
RE: Saw that last night  
buford : 5/29/2016 12:35 pm : link
In comment 12975305 Joey in VA said:
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Kind of shit no matter how you slice it. Who the fuck isn't watching a toddler near a gorilla by the way? Shoot the parents.


My thought exactly.
Forgive my ignorance  
Danny Kanell : 5/29/2016 12:37 pm : link
But wouldn't a tranquilizer dart be a better option in a scenario like this?
RE: Forgive my ignorance  
MookGiants : 5/29/2016 12:39 pm : link
In comment 12975356 Danny Kanell said:
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But wouldn't a tranquilizer dart be a better option in a scenario like this?


They said they didn't do that because it would take several minutes to take effect once they shot it in an animal that large
RE: Forgive my ignorance  
steve in ky : 5/29/2016 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12975356 Danny Kanell said:
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But wouldn't a tranquilizer dart be a better option in a scenario like this?


I think they take a little time to work on an animal that size and if the gorilla was dragging the kid around at that point which is what was reported they likely determined the child life was in danger and tranquilizing would be too risky.
RE: Forgive my ignorance  
Patrick77 : 5/29/2016 12:41 pm : link
In comment 12975356 Danny Kanell said:
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But wouldn't a tranquilizer dart be a better option in a scenario like this?


Likely doesn't take effect quick enough would be my guess. Unless you have it way too much - which would kill it.
RE: RE: Forgive my ignorance  
Danny Kanell : 5/29/2016 12:42 pm : link
In comment 12975362 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12975356 Danny Kanell said:


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But wouldn't a tranquilizer dart be a better option in a scenario like this?



I think they take a little time to work on an animal that size and if the gorilla was dragging the kid around at that point which is what was reported they likely determined the child life was in danger and tranquilizing would be too risky.


Ok gotcha. Shitty situation. Dumb fucking parents.
I'm no activist nor am I a PETA sympathizer..  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/29/2016 12:44 pm : link
But this really bothers me that we imprison these animals and then they end up paying the price for our own carelessness.

Fuck the kid  
SHO'NUFF : 5/29/2016 1:07 pm : link
this is just mother nature weeding out the idiots.
"Take your stinkin' paws off me  
rebel yell : 5/29/2016 1:08 pm : link
you damned, dirty ape."
Tragic - the zoo didn't really have a choice.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/29/2016 2:25 pm : link
Tranquilizer dart might have enraged the gorilla before taking effect.

The parents should spend the rest of their lives in community service for wildlife conservation. We've all had our inattentive moments, but this is ridiculous. If reports are accurate, the kid made his intentions known, and still made his way into the enclosure.
Damn, yeah that second video is much more informative.  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/29/2016 3:31 pm : link
Seems they didn't really have a choice.

And sorry to be that guy, but the "shoot the parents," stuff is lame. Yes they fucked up, but they're not the first parents to take their eyes off the kids for a second and have him wander off. Unfortunately in this case it led to a tragedy, but seems like a really insensitive angle and a very quick, condescending rush to judgment, IMO.

The whole thing is really terrible.
"Mommys right here! Oh god  
B in ALB : 5/29/2016 3:57 pm : link
please protect him."

Actually, you're not right there. You lost track of your kid and didn't do your job as a parent.

Anyone else tempted to jump right in there and try to get your child? My instincts are taking over and I'm jumping right the fuck in there.
Fuck the parents  
napoleon : 5/29/2016 4:04 pm : link
They are idiots. Probably forget their kids in hot cars too.
Parents need  
Giants : 5/29/2016 4:25 pm : link
to pay the price for the killing of the Gorilla. A price needs to be paid. Noway should that have happen.
I can't imagine  
SimpleMan : 5/29/2016 4:28 pm : link
seeing that live, where the gorilla could rip that kid to shreds in seconds, and thinking that I will take my phone out and video the whole thing.
I guess  
spike : 5/29/2016 4:29 pm : link
barrels full of bananas wouldn't have lured the gorilla away
Over/under on when the parents will file their lawsuit?  
Sarcastic Sam : 5/29/2016 4:45 pm : link
I'll say 10 days...
The apes are way too smart  
RetroJint : 5/29/2016 6:29 pm : link
to be held in captivity, which is a cruel treatment for the gorilla to begin with. Then it takes a bullet. As for the parents, maybe a poor exchange communicating. Dad thought Mom had the child. Mom thought Dad. That stuff happens. A very talented left--handed pitcher from Brooklyn lost a child a long dime before. The child died in the family swimming pool. Same deal between Mom & Dad. The legendary guitarist's child fell out the window. Very sad.
every parent  
spike : 5/29/2016 6:44 pm : link
has to have a sixth sense of where their child is.

Kids can get lost or abducted in a crowded place like the zoo.
The parents put the zoo in a shitty position  
David in LA : 5/29/2016 7:41 pm : link
fuck them. The parents should have their kid taken away from them.
RE: Over/under on when the parents will file their lawsuit?  
David in LA : 5/29/2016 7:42 pm : link
In comment 12975567 Sarcastic Sam said:
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I'll say 10 days...


That's a depressing pill to swallow, but somehow we'll end up rewarding these idiots for shitty parenting.
the way this country is the mother will  
gtt350 : 5/29/2016 9:04 pm : link
write a book " A day at the Zoo" do the tv promotional rounds and get rich
'Cincinnati Zoo Kills Gorilla to Protect Child'...  
Torrag : 5/29/2016 10:02 pm : link
...Sad...but necessary.
Anyone who jumped in would've been murdered, likely.  
BlackLight : 5/30/2016 12:44 am : link
I'd trust the zookeepers to know the best course of action in that moment. Just because the gorilla had not appeared to hurt the child up to then doesn't mean he wouldn't have, if given enough time.
there's some serious over reaction  
fkap : 5/30/2016 7:26 am : link
about parenting going on here. with absolutely no information other than '4 yo squeezed through bars into gorilla cage', y'all can determine the parents are scum of the earth.

Anyone here who thinks they've watched their 4 yo 60 seconds of every minute, 60 minutes of every hour, 24/7, is delusional.

we don't know the circumstances. Were the parents holding up the kid and over an enclosure barrier, such that he could bypass normal security measures? Or was a 4 yo able to, on his own, get into the enclosure? Zoos should anticipate either occurrence. Parents should reasonably expect that a 4 yo cannot get into a dangerous habitat at a zoo without adult help.
Zoo is crowded with lots of kids  
mdthedream : 5/30/2016 9:19 am : link
Its the zoo job to make sure Kids cant fit inside the rails and fall in. This is very sad and yes the parents have blame as well. The Zoo really dropped the ball and the Ape paid the price. Build a damn better cage so this does not happen. Make it out of a strong glass so they can see through and can not enter the cage or whatever so this does not happen.
RE: there's some serious over reaction  
drkenneth : 5/30/2016 9:19 am : link
In comment 12976031 fkap said:
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about parenting going on here. with absolutely no information other than '4 yo squeezed through bars into gorilla cage', y'all can determine the parents are scum of the earth.

Anyone here who thinks they've watched their 4 yo 60 seconds of every minute, 60 minutes of every hour, 24/7, is delusional.

we don't know the circumstances. Were the parents holding up the kid and over an enclosure barrier, such that he could bypass normal security measures? Or was a 4 yo able to, on his own, get into the enclosure? Zoos should anticipate either occurrence. Parents should reasonably expect that a 4 yo cannot get into a dangerous habitat at a zoo without adult help.


How fucking hard is it to bring your kid to the zoo, and I don't know: NOt let him climb through a gate, through wire, then a 15 foot drop into a moat?

Stupid fucking people.
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kelsto811 : 5/30/2016 9:27 am : link
In comment 12976086 drkenneth said:
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In comment 12976031 fkap said:


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about parenting going on here. with absolutely no information other than '4 yo squeezed through bars into gorilla cage', y'all can determine the parents are scum of the earth.

Anyone here who thinks they've watched their 4 yo 60 seconds of every minute, 60 minutes of every hour, 24/7, is delusional.

we don't know the circumstances. Were the parents holding up the kid and over an enclosure barrier, such that he could bypass normal security measures? Or was a 4 yo able to, on his own, get into the enclosure? Zoos should anticipate either occurrence. Parents should reasonably expect that a 4 yo cannot get into a dangerous habitat at a zoo without adult help.



How fucking hard is it to bring your kid to the zoo, and I don't know: NOt let him climb through a gate, through wire, then a 15 foot drop into a moat?

Stupid fucking people.


Yea, the "every second of every minute" thing might apply when you're at home or at a place you are familiar with, but I'd argue a zoo is the place you should definitely be watching your child every second of every minute.
I know people need to assign a bad guy in these types of situations  
leatherneck570 : 5/30/2016 9:29 am : link
but c'mon... As a parent who would probably be considered a "helicopter parent" on BBI, I have to chime in here. It only takes a second or 2 to do what the child did according to reports I saw this morning. That's a quick glance down at the gorillas. Let's drop the pitchforks here guys. It's just a shitty situation all around.
I can only think of th anchorman bear pit scene  
Patrick77 : 5/30/2016 9:29 am : link
Whenever someone says their first instinct I would be to jump in.
RE: there's some serious over reaction  
SomeFan : 5/30/2016 9:30 am : link
In comment 12976031 fkap said:
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about parenting going on here. with absolutely no information other than '4 yo squeezed through bars into gorilla cage', y'all can determine the parents are scum of the earth.

Anyone here who thinks they've watched their 4 yo 60 seconds of every minute, 60 minutes of every hour, 24/7, is delusional.

we don't know the circumstances. Were the parents holding up the kid and over an enclosure barrier, such that he could bypass normal security measures? Or was a 4 yo able to, on his own, get into the enclosure? Zoos should anticipate either occurrence. Parents should reasonably expect that a 4 yo cannot get into a dangerous habitat at a zoo without adult help.


Agree, but as friendly advice, maybe when overlooking a gorrila cage, one should be watching their toddler closely during that particular time.
he wasn't a toddler  
leatherneck570 : 5/30/2016 9:31 am : link
he was 4.
and yes  
leatherneck570 : 5/30/2016 9:33 am : link
there is a difference.
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