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NFT: Cincinnati Zoo Kills Gorilla to Protect Child

kelsto811 : 5/29/2016 11:31 am
The video is really scary to watch, they don't show the shooting but they do show the Gorilla with the child.

Getting away from the, it should have never happened in the first place...If it got to that, I can't see myself not jumping in there as an instant reaction. However, I guess that could make it much worse.
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RE: RE: Billy was 2.  
pjcas18 : 5/31/2016 10:24 am : link
In comment 12977140 RC02XX said:
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In a busy mall parking lot - I unbuckled him from his baby seat, set him on the ground, grabbed the door handle to slide it shut - Billy slipped his hand from mine and SPRINTED toward the back of the van. I screamed at him to STOP at the top of my lungs.

Billy stopped.

And a city bus cruised right past the back of the van.



I'm lucky the kid stopped.

BBI would've had my head on a stick.



I hear you. We were at the mall and while my wife was getting her eye brows threaded, I had walked into a nearby store where my five year old daughter and my one and half year old son could play with beanbag chairs. I turned around for a moment to tell my daughter to stop throwing things and when I turned around, my son had disappeared. My heart dropped as I picked up my daughter and ran out the door to look for him. Thankfully, my wife had caught him as he was turning right outside the door. It took maybe three seconds for my son to make a break for it. It seriously just takes a moment. And yes, some on BBI would clamor to have me lose custody of my kids for that.


Getting her eyebrows what?
RE: RE: RE: Billy was 2.  
Randy in CT : 5/31/2016 10:25 am : link
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In a busy mall parking lot - I unbuckled him from his baby seat, set him on the ground, grabbed the door handle to slide it shut - Billy slipped his hand from mine and SPRINTED toward the back of the van. I screamed at him to STOP at the top of my lungs.

Billy stopped.

And a city bus cruised right past the back of the van.



I'm lucky the kid stopped.

BBI would've had my head on a stick.



I hear you. We were at the mall and while my wife was getting her eye brows threaded, I had walked into a nearby store where my five year old daughter and my one and half year old son could play with beanbag chairs. I turned around for a moment to tell my daughter to stop throwing things and when I turned around, my son had disappeared. My heart dropped as I picked up my daughter and ran out the door to look for him. Thankfully, my wife had caught him as he was turning right outside the door. It took maybe three seconds for my son to make a break for it. It seriously just takes a moment. And yes, some on BBI would clamor to have me lose custody of my kids for that.



Getting her eyebrows what?
yeah, WTF?
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leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 10:29 am : link
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dragging the child around the enclosure. halo-effect much?

What is your douchey angle? Upset over everything in life? Contrarian, radar take on everything? Or just an asshole?



That's cold blooded...leatherneck is a jerk but not radar level jerk.


eh, he pretty much nailed it.
I've seen the cute girls in the mall  
leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 10:30 am : link
that do the eyebrow threading, I didn't know people actually got it done?
this reminds me of old threads fighting over child "leashes"  
Greg from LI : 5/31/2016 10:31 am : link
There were quite a few people who screamed about what kind of horrible parent would use such a thing, how dehumanizing it was, how lazy, etc etc. My wife and I had one for my son for the simple reason that he was fast, elusive, and curious about EVERYTHING. He would bolt at the drop of a hat if something caught his eye. No matter how attentive a parent is, there is no way to keep positive control of a particularly adventurous 3-4-5 year old at all times in busy public places. I can strongly sympathize with the parents of this Cincinnati boy because my son was the same way, and in no way do I consider my wife and I negligent parents. That's why we had him wear his little bear backpack with a strap we could hang on to, so he couldn't pull a Houdini on us.
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BrettNYG10 : 5/31/2016 10:34 am : link
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That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that cows and pigs (and most other mammals) are capable of most of the same emotions that we feel...they're just tastier.


Source?
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leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 10:35 am : link
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That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that cows and pigs (and most other mammals) are capable of most of the same emotions that we feel...they're just tastier.



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Your mom?
Brett's mom is tastier?  
Greg from LI : 5/31/2016 10:50 am : link
What?
RE: Brett's mom is tastier?  
Cam in MO : 5/31/2016 10:55 am : link
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What?


I just threw up. JFC, put some kind of warning on posts like that. This isn't liveleak, you sick fuck.





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BrettNYG10 : 5/31/2016 10:56 am : link
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That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that cows and pigs (and most other mammals) are capable of most of the same emotions that we feel...they're just tastier.



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Your mom?


RE: I've seen the cute girls in the mall  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/31/2016 10:59 am : link
In comment 12977189 leatherneck570 said:
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that do the eyebrow threading, I didn't know people actually got it done?


Most women who take care of themselves do this. Good for Ronnie.
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Cam in MO : 5/31/2016 11:00 am : link
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that do the eyebrow threading, I didn't know people actually got it done?



Most women who take care of themselves do this. Good for Ronnie.


Misogynist.


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Chris in Philly : 5/31/2016 11:00 am : link
In comment 12977241 Mike in Long Beach said:
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that do the eyebrow threading, I didn't know people actually got it done?



Most women who take care of themselves do this. Good for Ronnie.


And here's the expert on women who take care of themselves...
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leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 11:01 am : link
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That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that cows and pigs (and most other mammals) are capable of most of the same emotions that we feel...they're just tastier.



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Your mom?




You're right, but I haven't even spoken to your mom in like twenty-something years so I don't think she counts as one anymore.
RE: RE: RE: Billy was 2.  
RC02XX : 5/31/2016 11:02 am : link
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In a busy mall parking lot - I unbuckled him from his baby seat, set him on the ground, grabbed the door handle to slide it shut - Billy slipped his hand from mine and SPRINTED toward the back of the van. I screamed at him to STOP at the top of my lungs.

Billy stopped.

And a city bus cruised right past the back of the van.



I'm lucky the kid stopped.

BBI would've had my head on a stick.



I hear you. We were at the mall and while my wife was getting her eye brows threaded, I had walked into a nearby store where my five year old daughter and my one and half year old son could play with beanbag chairs. I turned around for a moment to tell my daughter to stop throwing things and when I turned around, my son had disappeared. My heart dropped as I picked up my daughter and ran out the door to look for him. Thankfully, my wife had caught him as he was turning right outside the door. It took maybe three seconds for my son to make a break for it. It seriously just takes a moment. And yes, some on BBI would clamor to have me lose custody of my kids for that.



Getting her eyebrows what?


It's an ancient way of removing unwanted hair. Some of you neanderthal looking motherf'ers can probably use it to clean up your bushy eyebrows...:)

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Threading is a method of hair removal originating in Asia. In more recent times it has gained popularity in Western countries, especially with a cosmetic application (particularly for removing/shaping eyebrows).

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In threading, a thin (cotton or polyester) thread is doubled, then twisted. It is then rolled over areas of unwanted hair, plucking the hair at the follicle level. Unlike tweezing, where single hairs are pulled out one at a time, threading can remove short lines of hair.



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leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 11:05 am : link
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In a busy mall parking lot - I unbuckled him from his baby seat, set him on the ground, grabbed the door handle to slide it shut - Billy slipped his hand from mine and SPRINTED toward the back of the van. I screamed at him to STOP at the top of my lungs.

Billy stopped.

And a city bus cruised right past the back of the van.



I'm lucky the kid stopped.

BBI would've had my head on a stick.



I hear you. We were at the mall and while my wife was getting her eye brows threaded, I had walked into a nearby store where my five year old daughter and my one and half year old son could play with beanbag chairs. I turned around for a moment to tell my daughter to stop throwing things and when I turned around, my son had disappeared. My heart dropped as I picked up my daughter and ran out the door to look for him. Thankfully, my wife had caught him as he was turning right outside the door. It took maybe three seconds for my son to make a break for it. It seriously just takes a moment. And yes, some on BBI would clamor to have me lose custody of my kids for that.



Getting her eyebrows what?



It's an ancient way of removing unwanted hair. Some of you neanderthal looking motherf'ers can probably use it to clean up your bushy eyebrows...:)



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Threading is a method of hair removal originating in Asia. In more recent times it has gained popularity in Western countries, especially with a cosmetic application (particularly for removing/shaping eyebrows).

...

In threading, a thin (cotton or polyester) thread is doubled, then twisted. It is then rolled over areas of unwanted hair, plucking the hair at the follicle level. Unlike tweezing, where single hairs are pulled out one at a time, threading can remove short lines of hair.



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Thank the gods your wife takes care of herself. I wish mine did. 😞
Embrace the unibrow.  
Bill L : 5/31/2016 11:08 am : link
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Cam in MO : 5/31/2016 11:09 am : link
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In a busy mall parking lot - I unbuckled him from his baby seat, set him on the ground, grabbed the door handle to slide it shut - Billy slipped his hand from mine and SPRINTED toward the back of the van. I screamed at him to STOP at the top of my lungs.

Billy stopped.

And a city bus cruised right past the back of the van.



I'm lucky the kid stopped.

BBI would've had my head on a stick.



I hear you. We were at the mall and while my wife was getting her eye brows threaded, I had walked into a nearby store where my five year old daughter and my one and half year old son could play with beanbag chairs. I turned around for a moment to tell my daughter to stop throwing things and when I turned around, my son had disappeared. My heart dropped as I picked up my daughter and ran out the door to look for him. Thankfully, my wife had caught him as he was turning right outside the door. It took maybe three seconds for my son to make a break for it. It seriously just takes a moment. And yes, some on BBI would clamor to have me lose custody of my kids for that.



Getting her eyebrows what?



It's an ancient way of removing unwanted hair. Some of you neanderthal looking motherf'ers can probably use it to clean up your bushy eyebrows...:)



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Threading is a method of hair removal originating in Asia. In more recent times it has gained popularity in Western countries, especially with a cosmetic application (particularly for removing/shaping eyebrows).

...

In threading, a thin (cotton or polyester) thread is doubled, then twisted. It is then rolled over areas of unwanted hair, plucking the hair at the follicle level. Unlike tweezing, where single hairs are pulled out one at a time, threading can remove short lines of hair.



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Thank the gods your wife takes care of herself. I wish mine did. 😞


leatherneck's wife:



Yeah.  
Modus Operandi : 5/31/2016 11:10 am : link
Asians are into all sorts of ancient methods. Bukkake, for instance. Most girls who take care of themselves are all about bukkake.

Good for Ronnie.
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Big Al : 5/31/2016 11:10 am : link
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In a busy mall parking lot - I unbuckled him from his baby seat, set him on the ground, grabbed the door handle to slide it shut - Billy slipped his hand from mine and SPRINTED toward the back of the van. I screamed at him to STOP at the top of my lungs.

Billy stopped.

And a city bus cruised right past the back of the van.



I'm lucky the kid stopped.

BBI would've had my head on a stick.



I hear you. We were at the mall and while my wife was getting her eye brows threaded, I had walked into a nearby store where my five year old daughter and my one and half year old son could play with beanbag chairs. I turned around for a moment to tell my daughter to stop throwing things and when I turned around, my son had disappeared. My heart dropped as I picked up my daughter and ran out the door to look for him. Thankfully, my wife had caught him as he was turning right outside the door. It took maybe three seconds for my son to make a break for it. It seriously just takes a moment. And yes, some on BBI would clamor to have me lose custody of my kids for that.



Getting her eyebrows what?



It's an ancient way of removing unwanted hair. Some of you neanderthal looking motherf'ers can probably use it to clean up your bushy eyebrows...:)



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Threading is a method of hair removal originating in Asia. In more recent times it has gained popularity in Western countries, especially with a cosmetic application (particularly for removing/shaping eyebrows).

...

In threading, a thin (cotton or polyester) thread is doubled, then twisted. It is then rolled over areas of unwanted hair, plucking the hair at the follicle level. Unlike tweezing, where single hairs are pulled out one at a time, threading can remove short lines of hair.



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Thank the gods your wife takes care of herself. I wish mine did. 😞
Fine that they do do stuff but don't nag me that I should get mani pedis and other such crap. " It's not only for women".
Her name is Pam. She enjoys long walks on the beach,  
Cam in MO : 5/31/2016 11:10 am : link
organic non-GMO gluten free food, is obsessed with essential oils, and doesn't shave....anywhere.



The "Korean"  
Bill L : 5/31/2016 11:10 am : link
is the forehead version of the Brazilian.
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Mike in Long Beach : 5/31/2016 11:11 am : link
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that do the eyebrow threading, I didn't know people actually got it done?



Most women who take care of themselves do this. Good for Ronnie.



And here's the expert on women who take care of themselves...


I roll with classy ladies. Sorry if you don't.

-Fekker Out
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leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 11:12 am : link
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In a busy mall parking lot - I unbuckled him from his baby seat, set him on the ground, grabbed the door handle to slide it shut - Billy slipped his hand from mine and SPRINTED toward the back of the van. I screamed at him to STOP at the top of my lungs.

Billy stopped.

And a city bus cruised right past the back of the van.



I'm lucky the kid stopped.

BBI would've had my head on a stick.



I hear you. We were at the mall and while my wife was getting her eye brows threaded, I had walked into a nearby store where my five year old daughter and my one and half year old son could play with beanbag chairs. I turned around for a moment to tell my daughter to stop throwing things and when I turned around, my son had disappeared. My heart dropped as I picked up my daughter and ran out the door to look for him. Thankfully, my wife had caught him as he was turning right outside the door. It took maybe three seconds for my son to make a break for it. It seriously just takes a moment. And yes, some on BBI would clamor to have me lose custody of my kids for that.



Getting her eyebrows what?



It's an ancient way of removing unwanted hair. Some of you neanderthal looking motherf'ers can probably use it to clean up your bushy eyebrows...:)



Quote:


Threading is a method of hair removal originating in Asia. In more recent times it has gained popularity in Western countries, especially with a cosmetic application (particularly for removing/shaping eyebrows).

...

In threading, a thin (cotton or polyester) thread is doubled, then twisted. It is then rolled over areas of unwanted hair, plucking the hair at the follicle level. Unlike tweezing, where single hairs are pulled out one at a time, threading can remove short lines of hair.



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Thank the gods your wife takes care of herself. I wish mine did. ��



leatherneck's wife:




Oh boy, I wish!
Speaking of leatherneck's wife,  
Cam in MO : 5/31/2016 11:15 am : link
I've always thought that Gorillas were really cool animals.



I got nothing...  
leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 11:23 am : link
That was good.
RE: Yeah.  
RC02XX : 5/31/2016 11:25 am : link
In comment 12977278 Modus Operandi said:
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Asians are into all sorts of ancient methods. Bukkake, for instance. Most girls who take care of themselves are all about bukkake.

Good for Ronnie.


Well...my wife isn't Asian...so...yeah.
RE: this reminds me of old threads fighting over child  
jcn56 : 5/31/2016 11:28 am : link
In comment 12977190 Greg from LI said:
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There were quite a few people who screamed about what kind of horrible parent would use such a thing, how dehumanizing it was, how lazy, etc etc. My wife and I had one for my son for the simple reason that he was fast, elusive, and curious about EVERYTHING. He would bolt at the drop of a hat if something caught his eye. No matter how attentive a parent is, there is no way to keep positive control of a particularly adventurous 3-4-5 year old at all times in busy public places. I can strongly sympathize with the parents of this Cincinnati boy because my son was the same way, and in no way do I consider my wife and I negligent parents. That's why we had him wear his little bear backpack with a strap we could hang on to, so he couldn't pull a Houdini on us.


I actually had a woman stop in the mall and read me the riot act once - about how it was inhumane, it was sending the kids the wrong message, etc. I waited for her to finish her rant to show her that my son wasn't leashed, he was just holding the end of a retractable leash (fooling around) as we were walking to pick up my friend and his dog from the vet. I don't think I've ever seen anyone turn that red before.
RC  
ctc in ftmyers : 5/31/2016 11:30 am : link
Just to muddle. His MOS is 2651.
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Cam in MO : 5/31/2016 11:30 am : link
In comment 12977335 jcn56 said:
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There were quite a few people who screamed about what kind of horrible parent would use such a thing, how dehumanizing it was, how lazy, etc etc. My wife and I had one for my son for the simple reason that he was fast, elusive, and curious about EVERYTHING. He would bolt at the drop of a hat if something caught his eye. No matter how attentive a parent is, there is no way to keep positive control of a particularly adventurous 3-4-5 year old at all times in busy public places. I can strongly sympathize with the parents of this Cincinnati boy because my son was the same way, and in no way do I consider my wife and I negligent parents. That's why we had him wear his little bear backpack with a strap we could hang on to, so he couldn't pull a Houdini on us.



I actually had a woman stop in the mall and read me the riot act once - about how it was inhumane, it was sending the kids the wrong message, etc. I waited for her to finish her rant to show her that my son wasn't leashed, he was just holding the end of a retractable leash (fooling around) as we were walking to pick up my friend and his dog from the vet. I don't think I've ever seen anyone turn that red before.


Ha.

I usually just get weird looks when I have the wife on a leash. Of course we generally aren't in public. Sometimes she'll wear the collar out, though.

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RC02XX : 5/31/2016 11:32 am : link
In comment 12977337 ctc in ftmyers said:
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Just to muddle. His MOS is 2651.


Damn Cryppy...good for him! Maybe one day I'll run into him if he gets stationed here in Maryland.
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RC02XX : 5/31/2016 11:33 am : link
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Ha.

I usually just get weird looks when I have the wife on a leash. Of course we generally aren't in public. Sometimes she'll wear the collar out, though.


And it happened.
It was only a matter of time.  
leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 11:34 am : link

njm, let him know he messed up. The air wing is where it's at!
Excellent summary from an eyewitness.  
manh george : 5/31/2016 12:11 pm : link
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For those of you that have already heard, there was a terrible accident there yesterday. And since every news media has covered this story, I don’t feel bad telling our side. This was an accident!! A terrible accident, but just that! My husband’s voice is the voice talking to the child in one of the videos. I was taking a pic of the female gorilla, when my eldest son yells, “what is he doing? “ I looked down, and to my surprise, there was a small child that had apparently, literally “flopped” over the railing, where there was then about 3 feet of ground that the child quickly crawled through!!
I assumed the woman next to me was the mother, getting ready to grab him until she says, “Whose kid is this? “ None of us actually thought he’d go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over! The crowd got a little frantic and the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn’t see him crawling through the bushes! She said “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!”
As she could find him nowhere, she looks to my husband (already over the railing talking to the child) and asks, “Sir, is he wearing green shorts? “ My husband reluctantly had to tell her yes, when she then nearly had a break down! They are both wanting to go over into the 15 foot drop, when I forbade my husband to do so, and attempted to calm the mother by calling 911 and assure her help was on the way. Neither my husband or the mother would have made that jump without breaking something! I wasn’t leaving with my boys, because I didn’t trust my husband not to jump in and the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn’t until the gorilla became agitated because of the noisy, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific!
The zoo responded very quickly, clearing the area and attempting to save both the child and the gorilla! The right choice was made. Thank God the child survived with non-life threatening, but serious injuries! This was an open exhibit! Which means the only thing separating you from the gorillas, is a 15 ish foot drop and a moat and some bushes!! This mother was not negligent and the zoo did an awesome job handling the situation! Especially since that had never happened before! ! Thankful for the zoo and their attempts and my thoughts and prayers goes out to this boy, his mother and his family.


This is the first incident at that exhibit in 38 years. So what, exactly, should either the zoo or the mother have done differently?
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RE: Excellent summary from an eyewitness.  
Chris in Philly : 5/31/2016 12:14 pm : link
In comment 12977389 manh george said:
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For those of you that have already heard, there was a terrible accident there yesterday. And since every news media has covered this story, I don’t feel bad telling our side. This was an accident!! A terrible accident, but just that! My husband’s voice is the voice talking to the child in one of the videos. I was taking a pic of the female gorilla, when my eldest son yells, “what is he doing? “ I looked down, and to my surprise, there was a small child that had apparently, literally “flopped” over the railing, where there was then about 3 feet of ground that the child quickly crawled through!!
I assumed the woman next to me was the mother, getting ready to grab him until she says, “Whose kid is this? “ None of us actually thought he’d go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over! The crowd got a little frantic and the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn’t see him crawling through the bushes! She said “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!”
As she could find him nowhere, she looks to my husband (already over the railing talking to the child) and asks, “Sir, is he wearing green shorts? “ My husband reluctantly had to tell her yes, when she then nearly had a break down! They are both wanting to go over into the 15 foot drop, when I forbade my husband to do so, and attempted to calm the mother by calling 911 and assure her help was on the way. Neither my husband or the mother would have made that jump without breaking something! I wasn’t leaving with my boys, because I didn’t trust my husband not to jump in and the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn’t until the gorilla became agitated because of the noisy, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific!
The zoo responded very quickly, clearing the area and attempting to save both the child and the gorilla! The right choice was made. Thank God the child survived with non-life threatening, but serious injuries! This was an open exhibit! Which means the only thing separating you from the gorillas, is a 15 ish foot drop and a moat and some bushes!! This mother was not negligent and the zoo did an awesome job handling the situation! Especially since that had never happened before! ! Thankful for the zoo and their attempts and my thoughts and prayers goes out to this boy, his mother and his family.



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What the zoo maybe could have done differently is make it harder for a 3 year old to get in. But people with their hilariously overblown takes on the mother and her fault are fools...
What's her douchy angle randy?  
leatherneck570 : 5/31/2016 12:15 pm : link
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that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific!
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SomeFan : 5/31/2016 3:06 pm : link
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For those of you that have already heard, there was a terrible accident there yesterday. And since every news media has covered this story, I don’t feel bad telling our side. This was an accident!! A terrible accident, but just that! My husband’s voice is the voice talking to the child in one of the videos. I was taking a pic of the female gorilla, when my eldest son yells, “what is he doing? “ I looked down, and to my surprise, there was a small child that had apparently, literally “flopped” over the railing, where there was then about 3 feet of ground that the child quickly crawled through!!
I assumed the woman next to me was the mother, getting ready to grab him until she says, “Whose kid is this? “ None of us actually thought he’d go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over! The crowd got a little frantic and the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn’t see him crawling through the bushes! She said “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!”
As she could find him nowhere, she looks to my husband (already over the railing talking to the child) and asks, “Sir, is he wearing green shorts? “ My husband reluctantly had to tell her yes, when she then nearly had a break down! They are both wanting to go over into the 15 foot drop, when I forbade my husband to do so, and attempted to calm the mother by calling 911 and assure her help was on the way. Neither my husband or the mother would have made that jump without breaking something! I wasn’t leaving with my boys, because I didn’t trust my husband not to jump in and the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn’t until the gorilla became agitated because of the noisy, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific!
The zoo responded very quickly, clearing the area and attempting to save both the child and the gorilla! The right choice was made. Thank God the child survived with non-life threatening, but serious injuries! This was an open exhibit! Which means the only thing separating you from the gorillas, is a 15 ish foot drop and a moat and some bushes!! This mother was not negligent and the zoo did an awesome job handling the situation! Especially since that had never happened before! ! Thankful for the zoo and their attempts and my thoughts and prayers goes out to this boy, his mother and his family.



This is the first incident at that exhibit in 38 years. So what, exactly, should either the zoo or the mother have done differently? Link - ( New Window )



What the zoo maybe could have done differently is make it harder for a 3 year old to get in. But people with their hilariously overblown takes on the mother and her fault are fools...


..."literally flopped over the fence..." is vague.

From a legal standpoint, this may be strict liability but not sure if there wasn't some parental neglect.
The Daily Mail  
B in ALB : 5/31/2016 3:58 pm : link
Crafts a very bizarre article about the situation highlighting the fathers criminal history. Why does that matter? Seems like the guy is gainfully employed and just trying to take care of his family.
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even if he's an actively-lawbreaking criminal mastermind  
Greg from LI : 5/31/2016 4:00 pm : link
his criminality would have absolutely nothing to do with this incident, but the Daily Mail's gonna Daily Mail.
Apparently the father wasn't even there  
B in ALB : 5/31/2016 4:03 pm : link
from what I've read. What a horrid article.
RE: What's her douchy angle randy?  
Randy in CT : 5/31/2016 4:28 pm : link
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that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific!

FYI, an average size chimp could probably rip "The Mountain"'s (from GoT) arms off of his body. The destruction that this gorilla could have created would have been actually "horrific" and if that gorilla was "throwing the child around" with intent to harm, make no mistake about it, the child would be incredibly dead. Super duper dead is what they call it in medical school, I believe?
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Chris in Philly : 5/31/2016 4:32 pm : link
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that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific!



FYI, an average size chimp could probably rip "The Mountain"'s (from GoT) arms off of his body. The destruction that this gorilla could have created would have been actually "horrific" and if that gorilla was "throwing the child around" with intent to harm, make no mistake about it, the child would be incredibly dead. Super duper dead is what they call it in medical school, I believe?


Did you watch the video?
Let me sum up:  
Randy in CT : 5/31/2016 4:33 pm : link
Especially with animals with a very high intelligence, but others as well, this is a prime example of the tragedy of zoos as they relate to animals. The gorilla was doing nothing but acting as a captive wild animal, and at the point it was killed, hadn't hurt the child in a malevolent way--perhaps as a confused animal unable to comprehend a more delicate way to handle a human child?

Sorry, but let's go ahead and put some culpability with the parents. If you are suggesting you should watch your kids less, especially when you aren't in your element, then good luck with that?

The zoo needs to rethink access from kids and dopey adults to all their animals. From a danger to humans-standpoint, from a legal standpoint and from an animal welfare standpoint.

And yeah, I think it is fine for some/many people to feel bad for the animal. And a nice piping hot cup of go fuck yourself to those that can't see it, or choose not to in an attempt to be obtuse or a contrarian fuckhead.
It also takes a really  
Pete in MD : 5/31/2016 5:01 pm : link
"special" kid to do something like this. I have a four year old, he does stupid stuff all of time but I couldn't fathom him trying something like this. He's curious and can get a little too adventurous at times, but I couldn't imagine this level of disregard for rules and boundaries (literal ones this time.)
BTW,  
Randy in CT : 5/31/2016 5:07 pm : link
if you are in the area and need some child care:

The child's mother, who works at a child care center for toddlers and preschoolers in Cincinnati...
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Modus Operandi : 5/31/2016 5:08 pm : link
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if you are in the area and need some child care:

The child's mother, who works at a child care center for toddlers and preschoolers in Cincinnati...


Do they do field trips?
I hate zoos  
AP in Halfmoon : 5/31/2016 5:11 pm : link
One day they will be extinct
Shoot the fucking monkey!  
BlackLight : 5/31/2016 5:22 pm : link
Shoot it! Shoot it now!!!
Just called  
Modus Operandi : 5/31/2016 5:31 pm : link
For an extra $25 per month, she'll teach your kid bike safety on I-275.

For $50, she'll teach him how to juggle chainsaws.

For a hundy, she will take your kid to Mid-Ohio Speedway and let him stand in pit row.

And for $200...  
manh george : 5/31/2016 5:44 pm : link
she will use BBI to teach your child critical thinking, reading for comprehension, and trolling.
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