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NFT: Cincinnati Zoo Kills Gorilla to Protect Child

kelsto811 : 5/29/2016 11:31 am
The video is really scary to watch, they don't show the shooting but they do show the Gorilla with the child.

Getting away from the, it should have never happened in the first place...If it got to that, I can't see myself not jumping in there as an instant reaction. However, I guess that could make it much worse.
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damn  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2016 2:33 pm : link
you guys are still at this. Nice perseverance and repetition.

RE: RE: RE: ...  
RC02XX : 6/2/2016 2:36 pm : link
In comment 12980099 Wuphat said:
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Leave Danny DeVito alone!


It's great seeing you here, you godless heathen!
RE: So Randy...  
Randy in CT : 6/2/2016 2:41 pm : link
In comment 12980085 manh george said:
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what you are saying, then, is that for 37.999 years, no parent had ever been negligent in keeping track of their kid around this particular exhibit, so that surely the parents in this particular case did a shitty job?

Or did potentially hundreds or thousands of prior instances of kids getting away from their parents briefly simply not result in the kid crawling under the bushes and into the moat?

And Filthy, as far as the amount of time involved, there was this comment from an eyewitness:



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None of us actually thought he’d go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over!



Despite this, you seem to know for a fact that the kid was off by himself for some extended period of time. Based upon what?



I'd say that given the number of people with kids who have visited the zoo for almost 40 years (and I'd imagine a whole bunch of them had to be fucking stupid and being led by stupid parents), when you get one that makes its way through and into the exhibit, which has never happened before, either the kid is the next Houdini, or it isn't a stretch of the imagination to suggest that the kid wasn't being supervised too extensively. I mean, are you serious? This was an anomalous occurrence overall, so are YOU suggesting that the zoo did something wrong THIS time with this child? Because however they might update their enclosure to make it even safer, before this accident, it hadn't happened before.
From what the eye witnesses have stated...  
RC02XX : 6/2/2016 2:47 pm : link
this mother didn't just let her kids roam around without supervision. She got distracted, the kid had full intention of going over, and the enclosure wasn't kid-proof. Even with momentary (less than 10 seconds?) distraction, the kid was deadset on going in, which I'm assuming most kids usually aren't going to do. As I've stated on multiple occasions, perfect combination of shitty factors/events lead to this tragedy. If any one of those factors didn't exist, this wouldn't be a story.
Um, filthy  
manh george : 6/2/2016 3:00 pm : link
The witness talked about crawling so fast THROUGH THE BUSHES.

There are no bushes AFTER the drop, so there goes that theory.

Facts are funny things, dontchathink?
Randy, I am NOT blaming the zoo.  
manh george : 6/2/2016 3:02 pm : link
Yes, it was an anomalous event. It's the rage at the parents I find strange. It was an anomalous event for them, too.
I mean if we are just going to go by witnesses  
GiantFilthy : 6/2/2016 3:10 pm : link
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"Her attention was drawn away for seconds, maybe a minute..."


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"...lost track of her child for perhaps a minute or so..."


Again, we just all parent differently I guess. The minute that I or WifeFilthy have had our eye off of my kid in public, especially one with heavy traffic like a zoo, hasn't happened yet.
RE: I mean if we are just going to go by witnesses  
BrettNYG10 : 6/2/2016 3:11 pm : link
In comment 12980146 GiantFilthy said:
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"Her attention was drawn away for seconds, maybe a minute..."





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"...lost track of her child for perhaps a minute or so..."



Again, we just all parent differently I guess. The minute that I or WifeFilthy have had our eye off of my kid in public, especially one with heavy traffic like a zoo, hasn't happened yet.


Try having two then.
Also I don't think I have called this person a bad parent.  
GiantFilthy : 6/2/2016 3:13 pm : link
Or didn't mean to if I did. What I've said what this was bad parenting. This moment. I do believe that. If a kid says, "yo, I'm gonna go do this thing that is dangerous," and you decide that that would be a good enough time as any to stop watching, it's gotta be a bit on you.
Filthy...  
Modus Operandi : 6/2/2016 3:14 pm : link
Your opinion, while thoughful filthylike, isn't welcome - seeing as how you've only planted the one seed.

Only those with 3 or more trophies bundles of joy are permitted to weigh in.

The kid is 3.  
manh george : 6/2/2016 3:17 pm : link
You seem awfully impressed with his communications skills and capacity to make a plan and carry it out.
RE: Also I don't think I have called this person a bad parent.  
RC02XX : 6/2/2016 3:17 pm : link
In comment 12980150 GiantFilthy said:
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Or didn't mean to if I did. What I've said what this was bad parenting. This moment. I do believe that. If a kid says, "yo, I'm gonna go do this thing that is dangerous," and you decide that that would be a good enough time as any to stop watching, it's gotta be a bit on you.


I think other posters have said she was a bad parent...I don't believe you said it. Just just told us on numerous occasions that you were a better parent than most of us...;)

But the mom did make it clear to the kid that he will not do any of that. In the end, this kid is just a little asshole...:)

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"The little boy himself had already been talking about wanting to go in, go in, get in the water and his mother is like, 'No you're not, no you're not,' " O'Connor said. "Her attention was drawn away for seconds, maybe a minute, and then he was up and in before you knew it."

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Ronnie,  
GiantFilthy : 6/2/2016 3:22 pm : link
I guess my earlier point was that there is no way this mom didn't already know her kid was an asshole! Might have been that same article where it was mentioned that people tend to feel comfortable and get a bit lax at amusement parks for some reason when we really shouldn't.
RE: Ronnie,  
RC02XX : 6/2/2016 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12980160 GiantFilthy said:
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I guess my earlier point was that there is no way this mom didn't already know her kid was an asshole! Might have been that same article where it was mentioned that people tend to feel comfortable and get a bit lax at amusement parks for some reason when we really shouldn't.


Well, all kids are assholes to a point. So when they say stupid shit, you often tell them "no" and move on without giving it a second thought. This one just happened to be a bit more of an asshole than others.
My point exactly  
manh george : 6/2/2016 4:50 pm : link
"I'm gonna go play with the nice monkey"

"No you aren't"

"Yes, I am."

"No, you aren't."

And then he did.
This is nothing compared to the time  
Overseer : 6/2/2016 5:05 pm : link
a kid was thrown into a tiger enclosure. The little boy in Cincy was lucky this was not a tiger. Gorillas are relatively docile animals unless circumstances require otherwise and it's doubtful he would have harmed the child.

Warning: video is extremely graphic. The kid's bloody guts are exposed as he is ripped apart and killed by tigers.

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Overseer, why the FUCK would you post something like that??  
Randy in CT : 6/2/2016 5:09 pm : link
Regarding parenting, can we agree that we don't know her overall body of work as a parent however some are justified in questioning her watching of the child that day.
When I was 3 or 4  
madgiantscow009 : 6/2/2016 5:38 pm : link
my father tried to throw me into the gorilla enclosure at the Tampa zoo. He told me he thought I escaped.
Lol @ Overseer's description.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/2/2016 5:44 pm : link
Why couldn't they shoot it before throwing it in there? Make it a little more humane.
I know one thing...  
JOrthman : 6/2/2016 5:47 pm : link
There is no way in hell I'm sharing some of my parenting stories on BBI from now on...
HA - Overseer  
ron mexico : 6/2/2016 5:48 pm : link
I see what you did there

But seriously that looks like normal people dropping that in there, not zoo trainers. Fuckin China
JOrthman  
AP in Halfmoon : 6/2/2016 9:55 pm : link
I was going to share some close calls I've had trying to manage 3 boys but decided against it for obvious reasons.

I am curious about one thing. I believe if my son fell in the pit I would have gone in after him. Perhaps attempting to distract the gorilla. I'm not suggesting it would be the wise course of action but I believe that's what I would have done.

I'm curious who else thought about that and would jump in?
AP in Halfmoon  
steve in ky : 6/2/2016 10:04 pm : link
Yeah if one of my children are in them I would be going in after them even if it meant nothing more than I would rather he go after me instead and in that time hopefully my child would be saved by the authorities.

Even beyond that I think I would have a very hard time watching any child in that situation and not be tempted to go in after him. It's a little kid with his entire life ahead of him.
Steve  
AP in Halfmoon : 6/2/2016 10:15 pm : link
I think it's instinctive. Before I knew it would be in the pit.
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