Do we still need another WR?

game 1 of regular season. We'll see how it appears to play out during pre-season games

Minicamp and training camp go. There is talent at WR they just have to show that they can contribute consistently. This is the most talented group of UDFA WR's that they Giants have had in a long time. Lewis, Powe, Maye, and Dable' all have a shot at making the team. Also Tavarres King really surprised at OTA's and he is a player to keep an eye on. Honestly I didn't even remember that he was on the roster but he could be this years surprise member of the 53 man roster.

Who are competing for six or seven spots on the final 53. Let's see how things play out over the summer.

ran a 4.47 40 at the combine in 2013. Maybe....???

I agree with the OP (wanted Boldin but was satisfied with Shepard pick.) I think the NY Giants are set for WR right now. I believe if Cruz is damaged goods, we will grab a veteran WR like Boldin on a short term team friendly contract.

The #1 and slot is set.....we need someone to take the #2 wr.....

it appears that we have some decent competition there now. I would say that possibly adding another veteran receiver, perhaps with some height, might be in the cards however during or at the end of Training Camp. It will all depend on Cruz's play and availability IMO.

Unless Cruz' best years are in front of him. Otherwise Giants have Beckham and Shepard. They will play 3+ WR for the vast majority of plays but only have 2 top line receivers. Worse, they will be wasting the best talent they've had since LT unless they surround Beckham with sufficient talent to allow him to flourish.

But the question is a silly one (apologies to the OP). There is no way the Giants can add the 3rd WR that is needed during 2016 absent a major trade (and that's NEVER going to happen). So 2016 is set in stone from a top notch WR standpoint. They can add spot players but what is needed is what Carl Banks/Harry Carson did for LT - and the Giants aren't picking up the equivalent of Carl Banks/Harry Carson at WR at any point the rest of this season.

I don't really expect us to sign a Boldin. What's available now isn't much better than the guys we have after Beckham, Shepard, and Cruz. Harris has shown that he can play WR. The chatter around Geremy Davis has been pretty positive from McAdoo and Eli. There are some intriguing talents after that needs a lot of polishing (Dable, King, etc). We also forgot to mention what we can expect from guys at other positions in the passing game. Tye figures to build off of last season, Jerrell Adams could see snaps, Vereen and Perkins will get receptions as well.

I dont see the need to have a guy like Boldin who is pretty much over the hill. It would be a temporary stop gap that just retards the development of a younger player.

I hope he is a beast.

is a huge determining factor, on how good this WR unit can be.....

Many expect a lot from Shepard, but OBj's are rare.....

Can Harris improve or is what you see is what you got?

After that, all you have is wishful thinking....

At what level can Cruz play? And for how long? And if Cruz does start, this forces Shepard and Harris, who are more slot receivers, to play outside....

So while we may have a lot of bodies at WR, we still have to separate, the chaff from the wheat.....unfortunately, there is little wheat out there...

To know

And I still believe it to be the fatal flaw of this team. I still believe the hole dwarfs the one on the right side of the OL.

I see OBJ, a rookie slot receiver, a likely to be waived -injured or, at best, not-what-he-was slot receiver, and a back-up slot receiver-punt returner and little else that could reasonably be expected to be NFL quality. That still leaves a spot open without some creative line-ups or play designs. Yeah, we are going to need some creative line-ups or play designs.

coaching staff has a better idea, but the fans aren't far behind.

Cruz is a huge question mark. my impression was that he wasn't all that stellar after his one great season, prior to getting hurt. who knows if he would have turned it around. now you have to factor in the injury.

hopes for the rookie, but at this point, those hopes are based on college production. NFL is a different beast.

Davis and Harris: here's where the coaches know best. Fans didn't see enough of Davis to be able to form any opinion. Harris has been around a while, but showed flaws. I'm guessing he's reached his peak and has been judged to be a backup WR.

But, we also have to consider other receiving options at RB and TE. Vereen can be an outlet. Tye as well. The rookie RB is supposedly pretty good, but again, this is the big leagues.

We know what we have in OBJ, Harris, Vereen. other than that we don't know. If some of the question marks are answered in the positive, then it'll be a good season.

We have, more or less, the best we're going to have for this season.

The bottom line is that we should be better at wr than last season.

Sure, he could help this team, but he is not a "put us over the top" piece at this point.

I feel much the same way about the WRs as I do safety. Given the choice between giving a shot to a young player with potential or an aged stop gap, my preference is to roll with youth. If we were a team with SB aspirations and this was the missing piece, I'd feel differently. But we are talking about a young team with a new head coach -let's work towards building something lasting.

should want Harris to play more of a #4 role (versus #3) at WR because he won't last 16 games doing it. He is better being a reserve in this spot filling in when one of the top 3 gets dinged up, or coming on field if we go 4 wide-outs.

Otherwise we risk losing him as both a serviceable back-up WR and our top returner.

As another poster said, they have 13 WR on the roster. They went as far as France to get one. The team is going to see what they have.

The one thing I hope to see, and never have seen a great justification why he was inactive down the stretch, is Davis take a productive role @ WR. Davis is a significant wild card in this question. He was drafted and has a year in the system. If he has developed into someone who should be getting playing time and he can push for the #3 spot (Meaning he slides outside someone else slides inside) then they are in good shape.

With Cruz I think you need to consider him similar as the UDFA's meaning he has no guarantee to make this roster. Any significant injury to Cruz will likely end his Giants career.

I see 4 WR on the team from OBJ, Shep, Davis and Harris.

Miles White is a very good special teams player. As a WR he's just a guy. I think he's under fierce competition, especially if 1 of the bigger WR emerge.

Everyone else is to green to count.

So i se it as there are 2 spots open, and Cruz and the rest of the guys are competing for those spots.

Fact of the matter is that we are screwed if OBJ goes down.

Shepard is being counted on for far more than is usually asked of a non-premium draft choice.

We have depth, but not at the top.

As to Dable, unless he shows a natural ability for STs, I feel the PS is his best case scenario for the start of 2016.

Tavarres King 4.47 40 is a dime a dozen. This athletic trait will neither make, nor break his future with the team.

it is not possible to have enough receivers. They are smaller, more vulnerable to collision injuries, susceptible to pulled hamstrings, twisted ankles and knees, must take hits when stretching to catch balls, and are generally at hazard. The emphasis in offense is now much more on the passing aspect of the game. The collisions that WRs must endure are more often in the open field, take place at greater speed, and because they are usually directed at dislodging the ball tend to be violent and to take place when the receiver's first priority is not their own protection. Concussions, too, are a more likely result of the mode of play of WRs. There has not been a season in the last 25 years, that has seen the Giant receivers intact, free of injury concerns and ready to play. If we had 10 OBJs, we would still have to look for more depth for the practice squad.

...and I disagree that we should wait until the end of preseason or Game 1. Or even the middle of camp. You will want any WR to have as much time as possible to learn the playbook and work with Eli.

We have the money and a vet WR like Boldin will not be expensive. I am very surprised that the Giants haven't signed a decent vet WR. Do it know when there are still options.

50 catches, 8 TD's for 890 yards in Green Bay last year. Cheap vet insurance for OBJ and Cruz. Hartline and Boldin don't thrill me.

If the Giants get hit with injuries at the position, yes.

i would rather they gave king,davis or dable a shot instead unless cruz isnt coming back then add a veteran to replace him roddy white might be a good candidate unless he is similarly injured beyond playing again too?

dable is the most intriguing candidate due to his height with beckham,cruz and shepard all 6 ft or under they need a taller WR for the fade that was mannings signature throw when they had plax and feel they need that play in the redzone

geremy davis seams like a lock to make the roster from his play in OTA's at least

I think we'll give it a shot with what we have...barring injuries we don't sign anyone else.
In a perfect world Eli would have a bigger Plaxico-esque type target to throw to opposite OBJ. Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world.

There's no one particularly intriguing on the roster after OBJ,,Sterling and Cruz - and Cruz is a question mark.

With a load of talent at WR (if everything goes well), I don't see Harris sticking given his contract and lack of need for a KR (given the new rules). How much do the Giants save if they cut Harris by August?
To me, I would rather have about 7 other WRs on the roster than him. We'll also find a PR to take his place.

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With a load of talent at WR (if everything goes well), I don't see Harris sticking given his contract and lack of need for a KR (given the new rules). How much do the Giants save if they cut Harris by August? To me, I would rather have about 7 other WRs on the roster than him. We'll also find a PR to take his place.

There are several coaches that have said they think the new Kick Off rule will result in less kicks into the end zone and more returns.

Coaches don't want to give up the extra 5 yards that easily.

The reality is Cruz has still not had 1 full practice in almost 2 years. Until he actually proves he can get through a practice, let alone a game, he is a question mark.

Harris was a very good and reliable WR when asked to be. He is a guy who had no issues going over the middle for them.

He returns kicks, punts and can play WR - that really is 3 players

They are not getting rid of him

I see the 6 WR as

OBJ, Cruz, Shepard, Harris, Davis, Powe

your 5th & 6th are going to be young guys - you do not keep vet WR on for that role in this league

Davis will get every opportunity to win the starting Job across from OBJ .
Harris is not going anywhere his versatility heart and toughness makes him a Key player .
Dable from the tape is a Longshot IMO it's like jumping from High school to the Pro's .
Powe is an interesting player that could pay dividends down the road .
King is a bit of a surprise although its way to early to tell but he looks to be very athletic and I don't think his
4.47 is an issue .Not sure what Jerry Rice posted in the 40
but straight line speed is more a dime a dozen .
We have made some trades in the past I don't doubt that if someone does not emerge that we will add a Veteran .
And I would have rather have had James Jones over RR any day of the week .
If Lewis shows promise and keeps his head on straight he could be a practice squad addition .