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NFT: White Sox v Mets - Memoral Day @ 1:00pm

sphinx : 5/30/2016 10:15 am
Buster Olney
ELIAS: Jose Quintana has allowed 4 or fewer runs in each of his last 33 starts, the 2nd-longest current streak, behind Jake Arrieta. (34)

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Well, Familia is warming up, lol  
PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 3:29 pm : link
so there's that.
Of course..  
arcarsenal : 5/30/2016 3:33 pm : link
I knew he'd go to Familia.. just gotta hope for a less stressful outing.
Whatever they worked on with Harvey during his side sessions  
Canton : 5/30/2016 3:35 pm : link
I hope it did the job. He looked great today. Let's hope he's back to his old self.
Really good to see  
Stufftherun : 5/30/2016 3:45 pm : link
Harvey and Familia getting it done. Would be even better to see them string together a few more of these types of outings.
Now that was a quality  
timintey : 5/30/2016 3:45 pm : link
Familia performance. Nice win!
This was an early/mid 2015-esque win.  
arcarsenal : 5/30/2016 3:47 pm : link
Huge for Matt. Big, big step in the right direction.
Good to see the pitching rounding into shape  
PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 3:47 pm : link
I'd feel a lot better if we didn't have a shitty offense but I'll take what I can get.
Why would any fan care that he didn't speak to the media.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/30/2016 4:09 pm : link
I guess I'll never understand it.
RE: Why would any fan care that he didn't speak to the media.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 4:34 pm : link
In comment 12976418 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I guess I'll never understand it.


That's okay, you don't have to understand it. There's a lot that's said around here I don't understand either.
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schabadoo : 5/30/2016 4:47 pm : link
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Zach Braziller Verified account
Terry Collins said wanted to get De Aza a start against former team




Terry just can't help but make moronic decisions. He's going to sit the much much better lefty (Conforto) and the surging other lefty (Granderson) just so he could get an awful lefty (De Aza) a start against his former team? Da fuq?

Good god, please get this Elmer Fudd moron of a manager out of a Mets uniform.


Trying to picture a manager you'd be happy with.
David Wright  
sphinx : 5/30/2016 4:51 pm : link
John Harper
Wright says doctors think he has a herniated disk in his neck. Seeing specialist tomorrow. Have to believe he's headed for the DL.

Harvey  
sphinx : 5/30/2016 4:51 pm : link
Bruce Beck Verified account
"Let my emotions get the best of me - not right, not acceptable!" Harvey on why he did not talk to media after last start!

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PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 4:54 pm : link
In comment 12976438 schabadoo said:
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Zach Braziller Verified account
Terry Collins said wanted to get De Aza a start against former team




Terry just can't help but make moronic decisions. He's going to sit the much much better lefty (Conforto) and the surging other lefty (Granderson) just so he could get an awful lefty (De Aza) a start against his former team? Da fuq?

Good god, please get this Elmer Fudd moron of a manager out of a Mets uniform.



Trying to picture a manager you'd be happy with.


Good for you, he's clearly a fan favorite.

Starting DeAza (because it was his former team???) definitely worked out for him.
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sphinx : 5/30/2016 4:59 pm : link
In comment 12976438 schabadoo said:
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Zach Braziller Verified account
Terry Collins said wanted to get De Aza a start against former team


Terry just can't help but make moronic decisions. He's going to sit the much much better lefty (Conforto) and the surging other lefty (Granderson) just so he could get an awful lefty (De Aza) a start against his former team? Da fuq?

Good god, please get this Elmer Fudd moron of a manager out of a Mets uniform.


Trying to picture a manager you'd be happy with.

To be fair, "Terry Collins said stayed away from playing Michael Conforto bc of how tough Quintana is on lefties" and he also sat Grandy and put in de Aza, who is a lefty.

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PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 5:01 pm : link
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Zach Braziller Verified account
Terry Collins said wanted to get De Aza a start against former team


Terry just can't help but make moronic decisions. He's going to sit the much much better lefty (Conforto) and the surging other lefty (Granderson) just so he could get an awful lefty (De Aza) a start against his former team? Da fuq?

Good god, please get this Elmer Fudd moron of a manager out of a Mets uniform.


Trying to picture a manager you'd be happy with.


To be fair, "Terry Collins said stayed away from playing Michael Conforto bc of how tough Quintana is on lefties" and he also sat Grandy and put in de Aza, who is a lefty.


Don't mind him...he's just a shit stirrer.
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schabadoo : 5/30/2016 5:35 pm : link
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Zach Braziller Verified account
Terry Collins said wanted to get De Aza a start against former team


Terry just can't help but make moronic decisions. He's going to sit the much much better lefty (Conforto) and the surging other lefty (Granderson) just so he could get an awful lefty (De Aza) a start against his former team? Da fuq?

Good god, please get this Elmer Fudd moron of a manager out of a Mets uniform.


Trying to picture a manager you'd be happy with.


To be fair, "Terry Collins said stayed away from playing Michael Conforto bc of how tough Quintana is on lefties" and he also sat Grandy and put in de Aza, who is a lefty.


I didn't get it either. Managers make some nutty decisions.

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schabadoo : 5/30/2016 5:37 pm : link
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Zach Braziller Verified account
Terry Collins said wanted to get De Aza a start against former team


Terry just can't help but make moronic decisions. He's going to sit the much much better lefty (Conforto) and the surging other lefty (Granderson) just so he could get an awful lefty (De Aza) a start against his former team? Da fuq?

Good god, please get this Elmer Fudd moron of a manager out of a Mets uniform.


Trying to picture a manager you'd be happy with.


To be fair, "Terry Collins said stayed away from playing Michael Conforto bc of how tough Quintana is on lefties" and he also sat Grandy and put in de Aza, who is a lefty.




Don't mind him...he's just a shit stirrer.


I barely post.

You want to fire the manager after every loss.
Great move  
SethFromAstoria : 5/30/2016 5:44 pm : link
again. Under the radar of course but puts Walker in that cleanup spot. Boom. Didn't pull Harv from rotation. Gave him one more shot...boom. Confidence builder. Nice game for the NL All Star manager. Pushes the right buttons and the team plays for him 100% every game
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PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 5:45 pm : link
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Zach Braziller Verified account
Terry Collins said wanted to get De Aza a start against former team


Terry just can't help but make moronic decisions. He's going to sit the much much better lefty (Conforto) and the surging other lefty (Granderson) just so he could get an awful lefty (De Aza) a start against his former team? Da fuq?

Good god, please get this Elmer Fudd moron of a manager out of a Mets uniform.


Trying to picture a manager you'd be happy with.


To be fair, "Terry Collins said stayed away from playing Michael Conforto bc of how tough Quintana is on lefties" and he also sat Grandy and put in de Aza, who is a lefty.




Don't mind him...he's just a shit stirrer.



I barely post.

You want to fire the manager after every loss.


Yet, every time you do post you stir the pot.

And I haven't bitched about Terry the entire season except for maybe 2 or 3 posts during the Dodger series.

So...you are wrong. What a shocker. Nice try though.
Right, you bitch when they're losing.  
schabadoo : 5/30/2016 5:52 pm : link
I agree.

RE: Right, you bitch when they're losing.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 5:56 pm : link
In comment 12976497 schabadoo said:
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I agree.


So, they've only lost two games this season? Huh, concrete logic you have there. Then again, this is coming from the guy who gets on my case when I complain about Terry only to then turn around and agree with what I was complaining about. You really are a special type of stupid. Maybe you should go back to "barely posting."
RE: David Wright  
spike : 5/30/2016 6:52 pm : link
In comment 12976446 sphinx said:
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John Harper
Wright says doctors think he has a herniated disk in his neck. Seeing specialist tomorrow. Have to believe he's headed for the DL.

Not good. Time to call it a career DW
Its imperative we renew Cespedes' contract.
And we shouldve resigned murphy to play 3rd.

Bad timing
It's really too bad what's happening to Wright  
PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 7:29 pm : link
He's just falling apart. Tough to watch for such a stand up player of the game. A true captain.
Spinal stenosis, bad disc in his neck  
speedywheels : 5/30/2016 7:46 pm : link
I worry DW won't be able to even walk by the time he's 40. Yikes...

I'd be stunned if he doesn't retire at the end of the year...
I think he retires before next season. I can't see him living this way  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/30/2016 7:46 pm : link
Needing 4 hours of work just to get ready for a game,
And meanwhile  
speedywheels : 5/30/2016 7:48 pm : link
with DW going on the DL, that means Campbell probably stays on the active roster.

Nine fucking lives, that guy has...
As bad as Campbell is my first choice to cut from the roster is  
Phil in Joisey : 5/30/2016 8:26 pm : link
De Aza. He is not a major league ball player.
de Aza plays so sparingly..  
arcarsenal : 5/30/2016 8:38 pm : link
It's hard to expect the guy to ever get into any sort of rhythm. We could do worse for a 5th OFer... we had worse players than him starting last year pretty regularly.
And Campbell has to go.  
arcarsenal : 5/30/2016 8:40 pm : link
I'm assuming Wilmer will get the majority of the starts at 3B in the meantime and Loney will be manning 1B for a while but we should really send Campbell down and call up Rivera to mix in at 1B/3B with Flo and Loney. Campbell is absolutely atrocious.
But Kelly is probably going to be the one to go down, right?  
PhiPsi125 : 5/30/2016 8:49 pm : link
Unless I'm missing something, they still have Kelly and Campbell on the roster and only one needs to go down for Loney.
RE: de Aza plays so sparingly..  
sphinx : 5/30/2016 8:59 pm : link
In comment 12976640 arcarsenal said:
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It's hard to expect the guy to ever get into any sort of rhythm. We could do worse for a 5th OFer... we had worse players than him starting last year pretty regularly.

+1

Nats beat Philly 4-3  
sphinx : 5/30/2016 10:04 pm : link
Murphy ... 3 for 4, 3 RBIs, 1 Run

RE: But Kelly is probably going to be the one to go down, right?  
arcarsenal : 5/30/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 12976655 PhiPsi125 said:
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Unless I'm missing something, they still have Kelly and Campbell on the roster and only one needs to go down for Loney.


Probably. Campbell is the Tanner Glass of the Mets. It's really irritating.
Should I be surprised  
sphinx : 5/30/2016 10:46 pm : link
if they send down/release de Aza? Kelly has played considerable games in the OF ... LF (133), RF (44) and even some CF (14). Plus he's toyed around with 1B, (3) games this year. Plus he's a switch hitter. I think it's Campbell or de Aza who goes.

De Aza isn't going anywhere  
ZGiants98 : 5/30/2016 11:39 pm : link
It was absolutely moronic to play him against a lefty today but some of you guys are WAY to hard on him. He had 40 something abats coming in today. He's getting a start once every 2 weeks if he's lucky. He's the problem? Seriously? We have had no injuries in the OF and Lagares who has also been very good is fighting for playing time as it is? De Aza essentially is last year's Kirk as the 5th OF. It's not a big deal.

I am praying Campbell gets DFA for Loney tomorrow. We need a roster spot and Im hoping Campbell is it. DL Wright. Call up Herrera. Move Walker to 3B. Best we can do for now. TJ Rivera is a bit of a dark horse but I don't want him up and riding the pine. Kelly is versatile, switch hitter. He can stay for a little longer.
And not only was Harvey good today  
ZGiants98 : 5/30/2016 11:42 pm : link
He was hitting 97 mph in the 6th and 7th. I am ecstatic. I need to see a lot more before I pronounce him "back" but this was as good as Harvey is ever going to look period. This was "A Harvey". Combined with deGrom's excellent start Friday (also high velocity throughout the entire game) I am very happy about our rotation right now.

Just keep it up Harvey. Before we know it Wheeler is going to be joining the party also.

The irony with Campbell  
Vanzetti : 5/31/2016 1:01 am : link
is that Sandy doesn't want to demote him because he is afraid another team will claim him, whereas Mets fans would almost universally rejoice if he were claimed by another team.

I actually like Campbell but when you are a part-time player you have to produce when you get the opportunity. Campbell just hasn't--although neither have any of the other backups.
Campbell has gotten the major brunt of atbats  
ZGiants98 : 5/31/2016 1:16 am : link
Two seasons now he has sucked ass. What other back up options have played? I guess Flores but he's been out himself and has a decent track record from last year. Kelly and his 12 at bats?? Campbell has got to go.

The catcher situation is still killing us. We need TDA back in the worst way. He might not be the best solution but we are in deep shit right now. We are basically missing three wRC+ 130 type bats from the lineup at once from last year. Loney is a league average-ish bat at best. Unless we call up Herrera Flores isn't going to give you much more than leave average at 3B. And then we have a black hole at C. Bleh.
Silver lining with Wright injury  
Bob in Newburgh : 5/31/2016 8:02 am : link
Put Flores at 3rd and stick with him. You may have your 3rd b of the present and the future. If it turns out you don't, well you had to find that out anyway.
RE: Silver lining with Wright injury  
gmen9892 : 5/31/2016 9:12 am : link
In comment 12976947 Bob in Newburgh said:
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Put Flores at 3rd and stick with him. You may have your 3rd b of the present and the future. If it turns out you don't, well you had to find that out anyway.


Always figured that Flores was going to be an important piece this year. He will get back to getting regular at bats with Wright out now. Time to get back in a groove.
Was at the game  
Metnut : 5/31/2016 9:27 am : link
yesterday and got into it with a guy sitting behind me who ripped on Harvey and Familia the entire game. It would've been comical if it wasn't so annoying. I was cheering extra hard as Harvey mowed down the Chi Sox and this guy got quieter. He then started piping up again when Familia came out. It seemed like he was rooting for a meltdown even though he was dressed in Mets gear.

Sorry for the rant but I really hated that guy.
its just sports man  
sshin05 : 5/31/2016 9:38 am : link
no player on any team out there is trying to lose.
The value of a professional, veteran catcher for this team again  
Victor in CT : 5/31/2016 9:48 am : link
clearly on display. Any time Harvey showed even the SLIGHTEST dismay, Rivera was out there to calm him down. He called a great game and kept Harvey on an even keel. That doesn't happen with d'UNNO in there. Plawecki might be a better game caller than d'UNNO, but I doubt he would be the calming influence that Rivera was either.

Someone called Francesa a few weeks back and suggested the Mets make a play for Carlos Ruiz from the Phillies. Now that they're coming back to earth, might not be a bad idea. He's a great defensive catcher, and the chance to win could rejuvenate him. And Plawecki could go to Triple A and play every day.
Is Ruiz  
ZGiants98 : 5/31/2016 10:12 am : link
Any better than Rene Rivera? The guy has been awful offensively for two years now, is 37, and likely isn't even close to as good defensively either. We already have a all defense vet who cant hit. Give me the offensive complement and for now that's TDA.

Plawecki can be sent to Siberia for all I care at this point. I just want him gone.
RE: Is Ruiz  
Victor in CT : 5/31/2016 10:15 am : link
In comment 12977132 ZGiants98 said:
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Any better than Rene Rivera? The guy has been awful offensively for two years now, is 37, and likely isn't even close to as good defensively either. We already have a all defense vet who cant hit. Give me the offensive complement and for now that's TDA.

Plawecki can be sent to Siberia for all I care at this point. I just want him gone.


Maybe not, but with dunno constantly hurt you need 3 catchers. And I still think it's more important with this young staff to have a catcher who the pitcher has confidence enough to bounce a curve in the dirt knowing it will be blocked in a big spot than dunno's bat. He's a horrid catcher
RE: Was at the game  
ZGiants98 : 5/31/2016 10:15 am : link
In comment 12977038 Metnut said:
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yesterday and got into it with a guy sitting behind me who ripped on Harvey and Familia the entire game. It would've been comical if it wasn't so annoying. I was cheering extra hard as Harvey mowed down the Chi Sox and this guy got quieter. He then started piping up again when Familia came out. It seemed like he was rooting for a meltdown even though he was dressed in Mets gear.

Sorry for the rant but I really hated that guy.


What's crazy, is that when I go to Mets games I feel like the vast majority of the stadium is filled with morons like this. We live in our bubbles on the internet but we are likely the most educated Mets fans of the lot. Hate to say it, but Im often not very proud to associate myself with the majority of our fan base.
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Victor in CT : 5/31/2016 10:18 am : link
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yesterday and got into it with a guy sitting behind me who ripped on Harvey and Familia the entire game. It would've been comical if it wasn't so annoying. I was cheering extra hard as Harvey mowed down the Chi Sox and this guy got quieter. He then started piping up again when Familia came out. It seemed like he was rooting for a meltdown even though he was dressed in Mets gear.

Sorry for the rant but I really hated that guy.



What's crazy, is that when I go to Mets games I feel like the vast majority of the stadium is filled with morons like this. We live in our bubbles on the internet but we are likely the most educated Mets fans of the lot. Hate to say it, but Im often not very proud to associate myself with the majority of our fan base.


Same people who call the FAN wanting Collins fired, and probably the same people (or their children) who wanted Davey Johnson canned for Bud Harrelson 25 years ago. How'd that work out
RE: RE: Is Ruiz  
ZGiants98 : 5/31/2016 10:19 am : link
In comment 12977138 Victor in CT said:
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Any better than Rene Rivera? The guy has been awful offensively for two years now, is 37, and likely isn't even close to as good defensively either. We already have a all defense vet who cant hit. Give me the offensive complement and for now that's TDA.

Plawecki can be sent to Siberia for all I care at this point. I just want him gone.



Maybe not, but with dunno constantly hurt you need 3 catchers. And I still think it's more important with this young staff to have a catcher who the pitcher has confidence enough to bounce a curve in the dirt knowing it will be blocked in a big spot than dunno's bat. He's a horrid catcher


What evidence do you have that TDA can't call a good game? I seem to remember our pitchers pitching pretty well last year. He frames well(one of the best around). and has eliminated his passed ball issue from years ago. His throwing and his shoulder "might" be an issue but that remains to be seen. I agree his injuries make him no longer reliable but when he does come back he'll clearly be the best option. I also dont think we can carry 3 catchers so our best bet is to hope Plawecki restores some confidence in the minors. Im not holding out much hope there anymore though.
My eyes. More for his physical defensive issues than baseball IQ  
Victor in CT : 5/31/2016 11:22 am : link
obviously. He hasn't shown the ability to be a consistently reliable defensive catcher. Mainly due to time missed due to his injuries, he doesn't have the experience to talk a guy off the ledge.
Just got in...  
Torrag : 5/31/2016 12:17 pm : link
...what moves have the Mets made with Wright now on the shelf?
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