Darian Thompson likely starting FS

In comment 12984009 Tuckrule said:

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Your title indicates it's official...

"Likely" = official?

to win a starting job while running around in shorts in OTAs. Utter nonsense.

Tuckrule is funny and weird but not wrong.

Maybe just re-title the thread to something like, "My unfounded speculation is that Darian Thompson will be the starting FS"?

In comment 12984056 Bill L said:

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Tuckrule is funny and weird but not wrong. Maybe just re-title the thread to something like, "My unfounded speculation is that Darian Thompson will be the starting FS"?

I lol'd.

Thompson, the starting safety?

Thanks...I thought Behre had a shot...


;)

In comment 12984045 OntheRoad said:

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In comment 12984009 Tuckrule said: Quote: Your title indicates it's official... "Likely" = official?

This was my thought as well. The topic is just fine. I clicked on it thinking I would read an argument to show why he "should" be the starter. Nothing more.

he said: "I think it is a little early to be talking depth chart"

So obviously declaring the guy a likely starter is a bit of a projection at this point.

That said, McAdoo also said: "Guys are jockeying for reps right now for when we get to training camp and for when we get to the preseason games"

Which means these early successes are far from meaningless. Take advantage of your reps now and you have a leg up coming into camp and preseason. There are a lot of guys competing for the spots at safety and you would not want to fall behind. There are only so many reps to go around. Thompson is clearly catching the coaches eyes -others may want to take note.

As an aside, Thompson was one of my least favorite draft picks when it was made. But that's why you have to get 'em into camp and see what you have. Sounds like we may have a good one here. As we stand now, he's one of the guys I'm most excited to see in camp.

Stop it.

He looks like he can run a defense. It is not like he is competing with Ed Reed or Troy Palomalu anyway. He is smart, instictive, vocal.

I know it is only OTAs but he is doing what he did in college again the pros. shorts or not, he is covering. Pads are for tackling. You don't need pads to show balls skills, awareness, hands, time management.

also, I haven't heard coaches rave about anyone else thus far.

In the end, we wont know if this is really until he is running with the 1's midway through Training Camp. Seen way too many OTA champs that turn out to be nothing.

being named Giants defensive rookie of the year.

especially considering what we had out there last season. The guy has a knack for finding the football in the air. He also has the height, weight and speed you'd like for someone at the position in today's NFL. I think some teams were scared after his combine but it was confirmed that he was sick. He performed much better at his pro day and during the draft it wouldn't have surprised me if he went at the end of the first. Getting him in the 3rd could be a steal.

The one thing that will need to change is when coming downhill. He goes full throttle when at times he needs to pace and square up. That I believe can and will be corrected with coaching. Either way he's still our best shot at FS and will be a big improvement from lat year imo.

In comment 12984072 I Love Clams Casino said:

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Thompson, the starting safety? Thanks...I thought Behre had a shot... ;)

Does Berhe have the skill set to,play FS?

He seems more like a SS.

In comment 12984224 TyFromQueens said:

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In comment 12984072 I Love Clams Casino said: Quote: Thompson, the starting safety? Thanks...I thought Behre had a shot... ;) Does Berhe have the skill set to,play FS? He seems more like a SS.

From what I have seen or read Berhe does not have the skill set to be a starting free safety. He is a leader, hard worker, sure tackler, but very simply not a great center fielder nor do I think he can technique tight ends, backs or wide receivers.

Even though their measureables are similar, Thompson is absolutely a natural ball hawking instinctual free safety..at least he was in college where he was pretty much the best in the country, Berhe has never been a big interception or passes defensed player. I think Berhe would make a fine back up strong safety or hope he will but I don't even want him looked at at Free safety. All we fucking need is another free safety who cant cover. Very simply to me Free safeties should be much closer to cornerbacks,Thompson, thompson or bennet and cut fucking cooper taylor or at best..at best put him as the 5th or 6th safety and #3 depth chart strong safety. He should never..ever be relied on to play. I'm shocked he is still here. He can't make more than 2 plays without getting an injury.

after a few days of OTAs?

the starting free safety, is not on this roster yet....

Or it's quite possible, Spags throws him to the wolves like he did with Collins last year.....if Reese does not pick up a castoff, you play with who does the job best.....but that does not mean the position is filled.....

We have no idea what Thompson can do, until he gets out there and sees some real competition in preseason....he was the 8th safety chosen in the draft, and is just expected to fill the position? Who knows? Maybe he is a perfect fit for this defense...

In comment 12984000 Tuckrule said:

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Your title indicates it's official and it isn't. Giants have said thompsons, Jackson and berhe will all have a shot at starting. It's OTAs they are trying different combos. Berhe has run with ones as well. Everyone on this site knows this so please delete this thread.

You need to lighten up dude.

he has the skillset

i think the more interesting debate is, minus politics, who the starter at SS would be. (Collins or Berhe.)

i was unimpressed with collins last year althou it sounds like he's improved

i think the more interesting debate is, minus politics, who the starter at SS would be. (Collins or Berhe.)

In comment 12984280 Giants2012 said:

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after a few days of OTAs?

Did you think the other FS options are 5-year All-Pros...

In comment 12984432 Jimmy Googs said:

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In comment 12984280 Giants2012 said: Quote: after a few days of OTAs? Did you think the other FS options are 5-year All-Pros...

Do you think you just answered the question or raised new ones? Is he so awesome or is the competition so poor a 3rd Rounder can step in and be the front runner during non-contact drills against a vanilla offense run during OTAs?

In comment 12984392 Doomster said:

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i think the more interesting debate is, minus politics, who the starter at SS would be. (Collins or Berhe.)

I'll be honest: would anyone be shocked if Behre won the starting "in the box" SS job over L. Collins? Not me, would not be surprised at all as I think Behre has talent and is now looking healthy.

If we had B. Jackson and N. Behre starting at safety last year and Prince healthy all year too we'd have made the playoffs. Our secondary was so bad due to injuries.

you did not see him play his rookie year, or you wouldn't even think this....

to be excited about. I think we will like his game. His interview and demeanor are impressive.

I rag on Reese/Ross a lot but this draft group looks pretty freaking good.

Obviously, there are mitigating factors to him actually starting. The whole point of this thread is that he's doing well thus far and is a favorite to start (thus far) according to a major beat writer (Raanan). But please continue to nitpick phantom points that no one is making...

In comment 12984540 adamg said:

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Obviously, there are mitigating factors to him actually starting. The whole point of this thread is that he's doing well thus far and is a favorite to start (thus far) according to a major beat writer (Raanan). But please continue to nitpick phantom points that no one is making...

Sinorice Moss was awesome but let's not nitpick.

In comment 12984583 Giants2012 said:

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In comment 12984540 adamg said: Quote: Obviously, there are mitigating factors to him actually starting. The whole point of this thread is that he's doing well thus far and is a favorite to start (thus far) according to a major beat writer (Raanan). But please continue to nitpick phantom points that no one is making... Sinorice Moss was awesome but let's not nitpick.

You got me, man. Well done. You totally nailed me on that one.

In comment 12984448 SGMen said:

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In comment 12984392 Doomster said: Quote: i think the more interesting debate is, minus politics, who the starter at SS would be. (Collins or Berhe.) I'll be honest: would anyone be shocked if Behre won the starting "in the box" SS job over L. Collins?

It's not happening, so yes, I would be completely shocked if that happened.

In comment 12984646 UberAlias said:

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In comment 12984448 SGMen said: Quote: In comment 12984392 Doomster said: Quote: i think the more interesting debate is, minus politics, who the starter at SS would be. (Collins or Berhe.) I'll be honest: would anyone be shocked if Behre won the starting "in the box" SS job over L. Collins? It's not happening, so yes, I would be completely shocked if that happened.

Same. Its as if people read something on BBI or wherever, convince themselves of whatever it is, and then just stick to it. Collins has warts but if he's going to be a SS he's not only got a whole season under his belt, but he was healthy and led the team in tackles. Behre may flash but he won't be earning the starting SS gig this offseason. He'd only get it through an injury.

In comment 12984441 Giants2012 said:

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In comment 12984432 Jimmy Googs said: Quote: In comment 12984280 Giants2012 said: Quote: after a few days of OTAs? Did you think the other FS options are 5-year All-Pros... Do you think you just answered the question or raised new ones? Is he so awesome or is the competition so poor a 3rd Rounder can step in and be the front runner during non-contact drills against a vanilla offense run during OTAs?

Spend a few minutes and look at the depth chart at FS and you will realize I did answer your question.

Cooper Taylor is hurt again and has barely played when he was healthy. And the other two players, Jackson and M. Thompson were even later draft picks than Darian Thompson and also have not played in an NFL game.

So...

That said, there's not a great deal of talent at FS on this roster. I'm expecting Darian to be the FS sooner or later.

And no, Collins isn't going to not win the SS spot.

and at least more or less average at the position over the course of the season, it'll be a draft coup. The Giants need a few of those. They've had a lot of misses; a few hits would make a big difference.

I don't know why but I have a really good feeling about this guy. I like the way he handles himself with the press and his focus.

also seems to be producing DBs that NYG really likes, similar to Texas Longhorns. Aggressive, flexible, natural positional instincts and ball skills, etc.

In comment 12984695 Eric from BBI said:

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I don't know why but I have a really good feeling about this guy. I like the way he handles himself with the press and his focus.

He certainly doesn't carry himself lik a rookie. Inst ad of hearing the same old "catching up with the speed of the game" matras we hear every spring this kid is calling out thmy D at his first veteran OTA. Simply put, he's obviously not overwhelmed by the stage. Tempering my enthusiasm but this kid really might have The Goods from week 1.

that one of the knocks you consistently see is about his tackling and proper angles. So while things are as good as you could hope for so far, just like any other rookie we won't truly know until they start hitting.

In comment 12984489 SomeFan said:

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to be excited about. I think we will like his game. His interview and demeanor are impressive. I rag on Reese/Ross a lot but this draft group looks pretty freaking good.

Impossible not to be excited about this draft class. Every one of them.

We need a Ball Hawk FS in the worst possible way .. I hope he does start and Succeed's ...
He damn sure has confidence so far so good !
I am amped for this Defense I really think were gonna turn some heads this year ..
This could be Jerry's Best Re-tool Job to Date ..

New article from Giants.com...
Rookie Darian Thompson eyes starting job - ( New Window )

Collins is the Starter in no way shape or form will
Nat Behre unseat Collins ..
Tuckrule I doubt that anyone in America has Thompson starting but he is damn sure off to a good start so its Early June we are all football starved all members want to contribute yet there are plenty of GUYS on here that know a lot more than others , Most of whom respect other posters even if they are way off base .
Eric has put together the Best Giants site known to man try enjoying it .

In comment 12984346 Doomster said:

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the starting free safety, is not on this roster yet.... Or it's quite possible, Spags throws him to the wolves like he did with Collins last year.....if Reese does not pick up a castoff, you play with who does the job best.....but that does not mean the position is filled..... We have no idea what Thompson can do, until he gets out there and sees some real competition in preseason....he was the 8th safety chosen in the draft, and is just expected to fill the position? Who knows? Maybe he is a perfect fit for this defense...

Do you remember Gibril Wilson? He was a 5th round pick that started the seven out of eight games he played as a rookie before he got hurt, and then went on to start in every game he appeared for the Giants for the next three years.

Ever hear of Morgan Burnett? He was a 3rd round pick for Green Bay back in 2010, #71 overall, just like Thompson, and a starter from day one. Ever hear of T.J. MacDonald? He was a 3rd round pick for the Rams back in 2013, #71 overall, just like Thompson, and a starter from day one.

D. Thompson, the 6th Safety chosen in the 2016 draft, not the 8th, wasn't drafted by the Giants to sit behind Nat Berhe or anyone else on the roster, and to suggest that he'll be the starting FS come September is a pretty safe bet, in my opinion. In fact, I'd go so far to say that it's "quite possible."

with pure stupidity.

Collins starts over Berhe because of "politics"?? Really Doomster? What the fuck are you watching?

Delete this, Tuckrule? One, neither the OP nor Ranaan said anything was official, just that DT is impressive and zeroing in on the spot.And this thread should be deleted after all the nonsense here about playoffs, the greatness of John Jerry and all the countless other drivel the gets posted here?

Someone will start and let it be the 3rd round pick that early reports say he shines. That college reports say he was excellent. Better him then the other later round former picks that can't manage to stay healthy to date. No big shakes here . I think the early odds do favor this kid

In comment 12984695 Eric from BBI said:

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I don't know why but I have a really good feeling about this guy.

Percy Ellsworth II?

better go back and re-read what I "actually wrote".....

In comment 12984982 Doomster said:

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better go back and re-read what I "actually wrote".....

SORRY Doomster!!! that should have been directed to "area junc", the thread above yours. Apologies!

Its is a good thread! There is too much negativity to discuss any topics.

But it appeared that you reiterated what Ummm
Area Junk said ... So yeah I thought you felt like
NB had a shot of bumping Collins hey I could be wrong but
IMHO Collins is a Lock at SS and will be better with the
addition of Snacks and Hank being back and hopefully
Thompson is the goods at FS ..
So My Bad

In comment 12984797 Klaatu said:

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...Ever hear of Morgan Burnett? He was a 3rd round pick for Green Bay back in 2010, #71 overall, just like Thompson, and a starter from day one. Ever hear of T.J. MacDonald? He was a 3rd round pick for the Rams back in 2013, #71 overall, just like Thompson, and a starter from day one...

That 71st pick thing is some Davinci Code stuff right there... Every 3 years, 2010, 2013, 2016....

Reese has finally figured out the code.

didn't move up in the second round, and give up a pick in
the 4th Rd., to have Collins sit behind a 5th rounder in Berhe. Please stop the nonsense. If Thompson winds up starting
at FS, that's fine if it happens, lets slow that roll for now.