Rueben Randle: “I Was Just Judged Wrong” With The NY Giants

This is straight out of the bad employee handbook, you get someone that you have to give a bad performance review and it turns into 'they just don't get me' and 'they have it out for me'. How about you do your fucking job?

He was judged on his results. Misreads, wrong routes, generally inconsistent play. His performance in the games was unsatisfactory. That is what he was judged on. Being "laid back" probably exacerbated the situation.

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But letting him walk was an easy decision.

If he's got average-to-poor speed and athleticism to go along with bad knees in his mid/late 20s, do you think it gets better or worse as he closes in on 30?

In comment 12985733 gidiefor said:

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Matthews played in the slot under Kelly because Kelly like bigger WRs in the slot. He is going to be playing on the outside from what I understand.

That means be a pro, fight for passes in the air, do not disappear for stretches especially when you're the wideout opposite OB, put in the effort in meetings and the playbook.

He did so many things wrong or not at all on the football field, it's hard to take his words seriously at all. It's a joke

He'd disappear all too often, in too many games.

He was judged correctly by all the other teams in the draft except the NY Giants. Instead of entering the league with a chip on his shoulder about having something to prove, he just drove the Giants nuts with his inconsistent effort.

have it on his desk, pronto!

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During his tenure in New York, Randle was late to meetings, failed to build a report with Eli Manning and as a result was benched

That's the nicest way to say it. Hope he can rejuvenate his career and find success with his new team.

In comment 12985750 RobCarpenter said:

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He was judged correctly by all the other teams in the draft except the NY Giants.

Eh. Tremendous amount of revisionist history here. The pick was universally well thought of.

Really need to get away from the habit of loving the picks on draft day, and if they fail, saying everybody knew not to pick that guy.

about how we missed or under-appreciated these issues during the scouting process. I'd like to know how the organization learns from its mistakes.

but he wasn't THAT high of a pick. I never liked him but he came along at a bad time here. Due to the failures of the team Randle sort of became the face of that failure. He's essentially an average player which isn't such a bad thing. But when you factor in that the Giants regresses during his time here and the high visibility of Randle's miscues....no surprise he's judged very poorly around here. HE wasn't that bad and this is coming from someone who killed him on numerous occasions.

In comment 12985791 NoPeanutz said:

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That's the nicest way to say it. Hope he can rejuvenate his career and find success with his new team.

I wish him no harm, but I hope no Eagles find success.

while here

with judged wrong. Hopefully his career works out for him. still so young

he was judged quite rightly outside of NY also.

that will likely wear out his welcome and move around from team to team over his career.

That lack-luster effort to catch that deep ball in 4Q in New Orleans last season is a perfect example of who Rueben Randle is.

too laid back to the point of not doing his job properly and consistently. could have been the john taylor to obj's rice, but lacked the work ethic and focus.

I guess it's just a miscommunication watching him jog out of bounds countless times instead of turning in for more yards.

Good riddance.

Most QBs would have murdered this guys rep in the press,like the Eagles will do shortly when he starts quitting on routes.

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Position coach Greg Lewis has the task of helping Randle realize his ceiling and that means it starts with making every meeting on time, taking copious notes, running precise routes, being on the same page with the quarterback on checks and catching everything thrown his way.

So, the guy is in his fifth year in the league and just now realizes that he should make meetings on time and run precise routes? F him.
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In comment 12985923 Shadow said:

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Most QBs would have murdered this guys rep in the press,like the Eagles will do shortly when he starts quitting on routes.

Yes. When things go south early for Philthy and it gets hot in the kitchen, Bradford/Wentz won't soon be willing to take the blame for WR incompetence.

Reese will look bad if RR does well with the Eagles AND if RR does badly there.

Reuben never learned the old axiom that:

"'tis better to keep one's mouth shut and appear the fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

Frustrating players ever to watch

Lots of talent, and 0 desire, or so it appeared

if he doesn't realize that, then he has 0 brains too

I'd rather watch a kid with less talent but who tries all out every play than a kid with talent loaf it all the time

Too bad - had EVERY opportunity to succeed here too

he wasn't that talented.

No YAC skills at all, not physical, ok deep speed, the whole football IQ thing.

There's a reason he got paid so little.

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the game or he never displayed a passion for it. I believe that was often exhibited in his unwillingness to fight for footballs in the air, as some have already mentioned.

Guys can change...even those with this kind of demeanour but, at some point, you have to display a passion for playing the game. To me, Randle is a guy who is extremely talented and knows he can probably find a spot somewhere in the NFL because of that. Still, I feel he just doesn't like the game and has always looked like he would rather be someplace else.

under his ass when he got here, college connection and all, he's not gonna turn on some magic switch now.

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Too bad - had EVERY opportunity to succeed here too

This is what pisses me off most about Randle. He had teh chances to succeed. He was still put in there while he was hurt. He had chance after chance to produce, with eli going his way quite a bit in crucial situations, and he didn't step up like he should have.

Just judging on what he did on the field was enough for a team to release him. and the intangible stuff and it cemented it.

I'm glad to hear him say he'll use this as a learning exercise, but saying he was judged wrong is just BS.

I don't think he's all that talented either. His greatest asset isn't even a 'talent' as much as it's a 'characteristic' and that's his size. He has just 'ok' hands... route-running is probably slightly below-average... leaping skills, slightly above average (maybe)... he's not even all that great when it comes to blocking.

I just don't think he's all that great of a player talent-wise and if you add on his lack of passion for the game... you have Rueben Randle.

we judged you correctly, the operative word is 'miscommunication' Rueben. Iggles fans will find out this season, and they can be louder too.

In comment 12986107 T-Bone said:

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I don't think he's all that talented either. His greatest asset isn't even a 'talent' as much as it's a 'characteristic' and that's his size. He has just 'ok' hands... route-running is probably slightly below-average... leaping skills, slightly above average (maybe)... he's not even all that great when it comes to blocking. I just don't think he's all that great of a player talent-wise and if you add on his lack of passion for the game... you have Rueben Randle.

You can also add, he gets no separation.

Did not have a bad career with the Giants by any stretch.

Actually the opposite.

If you remove his rookie year where he was literally the 5th option in the passing game behind Nicks, Cruz, Hixon and Marty Bennett his 3 year Giant career state line is:

169 Catches for 2346 yards and 17tds.

Averaged out that is 58 catches, 782 yards and about 6 tds per year, all as a #2 WR.

He wasn't terrible here, but the frustration came from the fact that the guy had all world talent but a 10 cent brain and attitude.

All in all though, for the last pick in the 2nd round, 63 overall- the Giants got pretty good use out of him on a rookie deal and then parted ways. That is good business actually.

I think the Giants got the appropriate value from him. Being forced into the #1 or #2 role at times was what boosted Randle's stats, and the Giants were smart enough to see that his production, while average to above average was also offset by a lot of mistakes.

If he believes that, he now has his chance to prove it. But I would say this team is not known for giving up on players without good reason.

because of some garbage time games in 2012, 2014 where he put the stats up. This is true of any starter wr just about--over 50 games, there are 3 or 4 big ones.


T-Bone, Osi totally right. He is mediocre. Maybe average. And arthritic. Why anyone gets mad at him is the surprising thing? Frustrating? Not really, he's a 3rd or 4th wr, he is what he is.

He was judged by the Giants to be worthy of a draft pick. Was judged the next few seasons to be starting caliber starter worthy and played almost every game.

Best thing about him, or worst depending on how you look at it, was that he was one of the few Giants who actually dressed and played every week.

Randle is not good. That was proven this off season when the Giants let him walk and the rest of the league was indifferent.

Hosley and Robinson.

he had a lot of ability but no real drive/desire to excel. No real love of football.

In comment 12986179 ThatLimerickGuy said:

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Did not have a bad career with the Giants by any stretch. Actually the opposite. If you remove his rookie year where he was literally the 5th option in the passing game behind Nicks, Cruz, Hixon and Marty Bennett his 3 year Giant career state line is: 169 Catches for 2346 yards and 17tds. Averaged out that is 58 catches, 782 yards and about 6 tds per year, all as a #2 WR. He wasn't terrible here, but the frustration came from the fact that the guy had all world talent but a 10 cent brain and attitude. All in all though, for the last pick in the 2nd round, 63 overall- the Giants got pretty good use out of him on a rookie deal and then parted ways. That is good business actually.

Yeah, but how many turnovers were because of him. How many stopped drives. Hard to measure.

He is nothing special, and its sad because he was a high draft pick. Most FA WR's could do what he does.

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In comment 12985750 RobCarpenter said: Quote: He was judged correctly by all the other teams in the draft except the NY Giants. Eh. Tremendous amount of revisionist history here. The pick was universally well thought of. Really need to get away from the habit of loving the picks on draft day, and if they fail, saying everybody knew not to pick that guy.

My point is that the other teams' GMs were smarter about him than the Giants' FO.

Eagles think more of him than the team that drafted him. Giants needed more from Randle and it didn't happen so that is the end of it.

Will be judged on his performance from this point on only he will tell the true story. He has been a terrible WR by most of BBI and fans but if the numbers were not great they were glimpses of what could or might be. Not sure what his future numbers will be but for sure he needed to leave this team for the good of both sides.

In comment 12986040 MOOPS said:

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under his ass when he got here, college connection and all, he's not gonna turn on some magic switch now.

I think you nailed it moops. I don't see how his new position coach can change him if playing with OBJ didn't.

Osi I disagree with your point about untalented. He isn't an athletic freak, but neither was Jerry Rice except maybe for his hands and hand eye coordination. What separates them is heart, desire, love of the game, moreso than "talent."

Is the most annoying personaltiy trait a person can have for me

In comment 12986662 LauderdaleMatty said:

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Is the most annoying personaltiy trait a person can have for me

I'd think that someone who only cares about himself/herself is the most annoying personality trait to me. Not that this is RR...

and Dabble will be better