Giants draft history, hits and misses:

Randle was seen as a steal for the late 2nd rounder. He has all the tools, came from a great program and everyone loved the pick. It just didn't translate to the football field.

Go with David Diehl......a 5th rounder.....who started 9+ years across the OL.

Who was that DLmen with one bad eye.....we took him 5th overall.....what a major bust

In comment 12988350 George from PA said:

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Go with David Diehl......a 5th rounder.....who started 9+ years across the OL. Who was that DLmen with one bad eye.....we took him 5th overall.....what a major bust

Cedric Jones

Rocky Tompson, Dave Briwn, and free agent Larry Czonka (sp?)

Willam Joseph.

Biggest surprises I would say Corey Webster after he looked completely toasted, and he came back to become a dominate corner for quite sometime.

4th Rounder from Northwestern(?). Starter from day one. Healthy and above average DL during his entire contract (compare to some of the big school busts listed above)

undrafted free agents who excelled (can we included them in draft history?). Disappointments - William Joseph, Thomas Lewis.

I was a fan of him because I met him after his last bowl game. Was super friendly & talked to all the fans. Singled my Brother & I out, because we didn't bullshit him about staying in college. We told him to go get paid.

At that time he was a projected late 1st early 2nd round pick. So I figured our pick in the 1st was too high & our pick in the 2nd was too low. I knew he'd be good, but I didn't think he'd be breaking all time WR records. I don't think the Giants nor Odell himself thought he was going to be this good this soon. It's insane when you look at it.

Antonio Brown is considered the best WR in the league. He's played 86 games. He has 38 TDs. Odell has played in 49 less games & has only 13 less TDs. Julio has played in 38 more games & has only 9 more TDs.

1991 - J. Bunch 27th,
1992 - D. Brown 14th
1993 - D. Brown - believe was 10th due to supplemental
1994 - T. Lewis - 24th
1995 - T. Wheatley - 17th
1996 - C. Jones - 5th

I thought Wheatley would tear it up for NY - never happened.

S. Williams provided glimpses that looked like he was going to be the best S in the NFL and just never played like it consistently

I always wanted J. Mitchell over D. Brown

I thought Joseph coming out of Miami was going to be a dominant player

RB after Butch Woolfolk. No one expected a helluva lot more from Dayne?
Lastly re RBs, I loved Bradshaw's college highlights so he wasn't really a surprise although of course he exceeded his 7th round status.

Ira you're breaking the rules! But I'll give you a pass because Seubert and Cruz were such great surprises... and personal favorites for me too.

As for disappointments like William Joseph and Cedric Jones, I don't recall really expecting much from them. A guy I loved from that era (+/-) was Gary Jeter, who was OK but not nearly what I expected from him. I thought he was gonna be the next Alan Page...

LT and Carl Banks were two that I simply expected to be great and they were. Phil was far more a surprise, although not hugely so...

Hakeem Nicks.

5th WR taken, yet by far the most productive and best one. Unfortunatley, his career was cut short by his foot injury.

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Hakeem Nicks. 5th WR taken, yet by far the most productive and best one. Unfortunatley, his career was cut short by his foot injury.

When you consider Peyton has both the #1 and #2 all time QB to WR records with 1) Marvin Harrison and 2) Reggie Wayne, it just doesn't seem fair Eli has had such a string of bad luck with his WRs' longevity. Smith, Nicks, now Cruz... Would be amazing if only OBJ and Shepard could remain injury free for the rest of Eli's career.

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In comment 12988387 dep026 said: Quote: Hakeem Nicks. 5th WR taken, yet by far the most productive and best one. Unfortunatley, his career was cut short by his foot injury. When you consider Peyton has both the #1 and #2 all time QB to WR records with 1) Marvin Harrison and 2) Reggie Wayne, it just doesn't seem fair Eli has had such a string of bad luck with his WRs' longevity. Smith, Nicks, now Cruz... Would be amazing if only OBJ and Shepard could remain injury free for the rest of Eli's career.

Also shows that they help make their wide outs. Past few years Peyton has made a token of wide outs in Denver reach their full potential.

Eli has been producing great wideouts his entire career.

After Thomas Lewis i was pretty sour on Big 10 WRs, and i remember being dissapointed when they drafted him.

Paul Zimmerman was there and naturally we got to chat, at least before our slurring kicked in..He LOVED the Jarred Bunch pick and felt he was an absolute steal for the reigning SB champions..

Unfortunately, his hip said otherwise..

LT and Beckham are obvious. You don't expect that shit from ANY draft pick.

My pick for biggest hit? Jesse Armstead. 7th round pick, took a few years for him to round out, but was a FANTASTIC player.

Biggest miss? So many duds. Butch Woolfolk. George Adams. Jarrod Bunch. Ron Dayne. Joe Montgomery.

Notice a trend?

TYRONE WHEATLEY WAS PICKED 17th! GAAH!

David Wilson. Nice pick til' Zeus intervened, RIGHT IN THE NECK!


Giants have had a generation-long awful streak at picking high round RB's.

It was a big gamble and we hit this shit out of that one.

Ron Dayne was pretty disappointing.

Cedric (0) (-) Jones

never thought he'd be this special and well into his injured first year people were bitching we should have taken Martin.

Travis Bekum -- loved his play at UW and with Eli and how they said they were going to use him 'creatively' I had hopes. Oh well.

Great- OBJ.

Oddly Lou, when I reviewed Beckham's college tapes I was immediately excited and thought "how could the receivers drafted before him be any better?"

Surpassed expectations the most - RB Ahmad Bradshaw because he was a 7th rounder with character issues and he turned into a pro bowl quality player.

I'd like to say Roosevelt Brown, who was a 27th rounder and became a Hall of Famer, but I wasn't following football when he was selected.

Runner up - LB Jesse Armstead from the 8th round who became an outstanding player.

Failed to live up to expectations the most - TE Derek Brown, no contest. He was a first rounder and supposed to be a really good TE, but he ended up as the biggest draft bust in GIANTS history. Nobody else is even close considering how long he sat on the bench and how much Mara money he got for doing it.

I remember people saying he could be a real player, but he was a 7th round back out of Marshall who I only knew about because he had originally been a UVA recruit. He went on to become one of my all-time favorite Giants and a guy who could have been an All-Pro had he been blessed with good health.

Biggest disappointment was probably Wheatley. He ran like an animal at Michigan, and then looked like he barely cared as a Giant.

Mark Bavaro as a 4th round pick in 1985 was a steal.

Derick Brown as the 14th pick of the 1992 NFL draft was a disaster

Still a good rule to live by. Don't draft one high.

In comment 12988460 x meadowlander said:

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LT and Beckham are obvious. You don't expect that shit from ANY draft pick. My pick for biggest hit? Jesse Armstead. 7th round pick, took a few years for him to round out, but was a FANTASTIC player. Biggest miss? So many duds. Butch Woolfolk. George Adams. Jarrod Bunch. Ron Dayne. Joe Montgomery. Notice a trend? TYRONE WHEATLEY WAS PICKED 17th! GAAH! David Wilson. Nice pick til' Zeus intervened, RIGHT IN THE NECK! Giants have had a generation-long awful streak at picking high round RB's.

There's been a lot of whiffs on RBs going back to Fredrickson over Gayle Sayers... but Joe Morris and Tiki Barber say it wasn't ALL bad.

In comment 12988582 mrvax said:

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Great- OBJ. Oddly Lou, when I reviewed Beckham's college tapes I was immediately excited and thought "how could the receivers drafted before him be any better?"

Vax I was disappointed when we took him based on the limited tape I saw, which showed among other things him getting caught from behind. Probably had a hammy that game... And I wondered why, if he was a top 10 (almost) guy, he didn't get the Lions share of the targets at LSU. I had no idea Landry was a great WR too. When I looked at all the tape I could find of him, I warmed up. Especially in one game where the color guy said something like "Odell Beckham isn't fair to play against. He's like an NFL WR still playing in college."

So I warmed up to the pick after looking at considerably more tape. I really wanted Donald, too.

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In comment 12988460 x meadowlander said: Quote: LT and Beckham are obvious. You don't expect that shit from ANY draft pick. My pick for biggest hit? Jesse Armstead. 7th round pick, took a few years for him to round out, but was a FANTASTIC player. Biggest miss? So many duds. Butch Woolfolk. George Adams. Jarrod Bunch. Ron Dayne. Joe Montgomery. Notice a trend? TYRONE WHEATLEY WAS PICKED 17th! GAAH! David Wilson. Nice pick til' Zeus intervened, RIGHT IN THE NECK! Giants have had a generation-long awful streak at picking high round RB's. There's been a lot of whiffs on RBs going back to Fredrickson over Gayle Sayers... but Joe Morris and Tiki Barber say it wasn't ALL bad.

Add Rodney Hampton to the "it wasn't ALL bad" list....

and all others Joe Don Looney was the poster child for a draft miss ...
Rosey Brown in the 27th round ... biggest hit ever ... a bigger hit even than Bednarik on Gifford ...

Filled the stat sheet in that week 1 first game against Warner and the rams. After that day you couldn't find a Giants fan that wasnt convinced Joseph would have a big time career. I certainly bought in. Then the guy fizzled out. I can't really think of any other high highly touted high pick like Joseph who had a big splashy first game only to disappear. A guy like Ron Dayne never really had that big early moment that had people buzzing. He looked ordinary right off the bat..

I'd also say Tyrone Wheatley. He did play pretty well if not very well in Oakland for a couple of years. Giants (Reeves) tucked him up somewhat. Hated reeves.

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1991 - J. Bunch 27th, 1992 - D. Brown 14th 1993 - D. Brown - believe was 10th due to supplemental 1994 - T. Lewis - 24th 1995 - T. Wheatley - 17th 1996 - C. Jones - 5th I thought Wheatley would tear it up for NY - never happened. S. Williams provided glimpses that looked like he was going to be the best S in the NFL and just never played like it consistently I always wanted J. Mitchell over D. Brown I thought Joseph coming out of Miami was going to be a dominant player

Dan Reeves did Wheatley zero favors, he purposely put him in position to fail (always running that stupid toss), because he wanted Rahsaan Salaam (George Young saw otherwise).

My misses would include Justin Pugh, I didn't think he was what you typically look for in a 1st round OT prospect. I thought Tim Carter would someday turn into a good WR. Joe Jurevicius followed in the footsteps of Ed McCaffrey and took off elsewhere.

cmon...

He's a good to very good guard, maybe even a great guard if everything breaks the right way here on the OL and he's an adequate tackle. At 19 that's fine value.

you gave Pugh props... I misread.