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Jordan Ranaan: John Jerry has "career-changing" offseason

JM1990 : 6/10/2016 1:01 pm
John Jerry worked his butt off on his own time/money to be the best he possibly could.

Respect.
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Goat  
djm : 6/10/2016 1:02 pm : link
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This is encouraging.  
Tom in NY : 6/10/2016 1:05 pm : link
Bentley is pretty adamant about who he'll work with, and the fact that he is seeing this level of commitment from Jerry is good news.

Getting Jerry to play to at least an average level in the running game would do wonders for this team.


...now let's hope Bobby Hart is the positive surprise and takes the RT job by the throat.
whoa  
Greg from LI : 6/10/2016 1:06 pm : link
So Ranaan was the John Jerry troll???

Mind. Blown.
Doesn't sound like a slacker to me. Good read.  
Big Blue '56 : 6/10/2016 1:07 pm : link
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spent eight weeks training earlier this year in Arizona (along with Giants center Weston Richburg) at LeCharles Bentley's O-Line Performance. It was there Jerry experienced what he called a "career-changing" experience fixing flaws and improving his game.

"Best decision I ever made since I've been playing in the NFL," Jerry said. "I spent two months not just working out. I spent two months getting in a three-point stance and doing drills and doing technique things. That is something you rarely do in the offseason anywhere else that I've worked out.

"The past couple years it's mostly lifting and conditioning, not getting in stances and working on pass sets and run blocking and not giving away things whether you're on the front or back side of plays."

Well if anything,  
Curtis in VA : 6/10/2016 1:07 pm : link
John Jerry seems to have worked his butt off to change his image.

He might not be a very good player but he's well liked and respected among his teammates. Good for him.

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Modus Operandi : 6/10/2016 1:09 pm : link
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John Jerry worked his butt off on his own time/money to be the best he possibly could.


Being the best he possibly could is still a below average starter. For his career.
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Big Blue '56 : 6/10/2016 1:12 pm : link
In comment 12988947 Modus Operandi said:
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John Jerry worked his butt off on his own time/money to be the best he possibly could.



Being the best he possibly could is still a below average starter. For his career.


As said above Bentley is well reapected and doesn't tolerate anything but one's best efforts..If for the FIRST TIME EVER in the off-season Jerry has worked really hard on techniques, etc., I eager to see how that translates to the field..

I'm encouraged. But let's see
I read this and the info that OBJ worked out with Gino, etc. etc.  
GiantBlue : 6/10/2016 1:13 pm : link
and realize that these players...the ones who really care to either improve or continue to excel...figure that the CBA is not their friend with all this non-contact, no pad, BS!

It sounds likes Jerry had a career-changing experience because Bentley worked them like dogs........

You don't get to be the best lollygagging on the sidelines or on the bikes.....
Interesting  
Del Shofner : 6/10/2016 1:15 pm : link
and encouraging. Can't hurt ...
Nice Article  
ZogZerg : 6/10/2016 1:16 pm : link
It's always to hear that players are working hard in the off season to be as good as possible.
If you want to buy in to the best case scenario  
djm : 6/10/2016 1:16 pm : link
Think back to Shaun O'Hara's career and how he went from average at best middling player on Cleveland to pretty good player here to very good player over his final 3-4 seasons in NY.

Some guys do improve well after the typical timeline. Ohara was one of them. I remember Ohara going on and on about how much better he would be due to recognizing and addressing his sleep apnea condition, sometime around 2006. And sure enough he was right.
good  
ZogZerg : 6/10/2016 1:16 pm : link
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To be honest, I'm surprised there's not more camps like this  
jcn56 : 6/10/2016 1:16 pm : link
With the new CBA, practice time is cut down. I thought for players on the fringe, the team might 'strongly encourage' them to get in extra work over the summer, if not with the team in an official capacity then with a recommended trusted partner.

Seems like a pretty easy way to get around the 'voluntary' aspect of the offseason/OTAs.
I saw dramatic  
WhoCares : 6/10/2016 1:20 pm : link
improvement in that video. He was noticeably quickly.
Very  
Randy in CT : 6/10/2016 1:22 pm : link
encouraging.
Good post, thanks  
trueblueinpw : 6/10/2016 1:24 pm : link
Nice to see Jerry committed to his craft and very encouraging to read that Richberg vouched for him and that they worked together. Maybe the O line will really come together this season.
Why didnt he do this the season before?  
Joey from GlenCove : 6/10/2016 1:25 pm : link
i dont understand why not give it your best every off season
When is his contract up  
Canton : 6/10/2016 1:28 pm : link
...
The problem with Jerry has never been talent  
Modus Operandi : 6/10/2016 1:28 pm : link
Or feet. It's lazy technique. He's had five years benefit of professional coaching to work on his technique and he still can't sustain a block in the running game. His shortcomings now were the same concerns when he was first drafted and throughout his stint in MIA.

He spent a little extra time to work on his craft. Big deal. Each one of us does that every single day and we don't have millions riding on it.

Maybe he gets better. Maybe he doesnt. I'm not optimistic because I think there's been plenty of time for him to have shown even a marginal improvement and he hasnt.
This shows real committment  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/10/2016 1:31 pm : link
by Jerry -- Kevin Booth was very much like him in that he was originally non-descript veteran signing and then after a few seasons came on late in his career with the Giants to be a very nice - reliable player
so working on  
area junc : 6/10/2016 1:33 pm : link
technique in the offseason is good?

novel concept
RE: To be honest, I'm surprised there's not more camps like this  
bluetothegrave : 6/10/2016 1:47 pm : link
In comment 12988960 jcn56 said:
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With the new CBA, practice time is cut down. I thought for players on the fringe, the team might 'strongly encourage' them to get in extra work over the summer, if not with the team in an official capacity then with a recommended trusted partner.

Seems like a pretty easy way to get around the 'voluntary' aspect of the offseason/OTAs.


Just another reason to be encouraged in this "good feeling" off season. Imagine he improves to be one of the better RG's in the game? Whats next hart being a stalwart at RT. Great read, love hearing that some of these players value playing their best as Giants as much as we do. Becoming a big fan of JJ now.
It's pretty amazing...  
Dan in the Springs : 6/10/2016 1:48 pm : link
that he didn't have a career-changing offseason following the bullying scandal, when his career was hanging by a thread. It had to come to this?
If Jerry takes a significant step up because of Bentley's camp.  
BlueLou : 6/10/2016 1:48 pm : link
That program has got to become mandatory (quietly) for the entire OL.

On Eli's dime.
RE: so working on  
jcn56 : 6/10/2016 1:49 pm : link
In comment 12988994 area junc said:
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technique in the offseason is good?

novel concept


Well, beats what Anthony Davis is doing, right? How's that trade coming?
RE: Why didnt he do this the season before?  
bluetothegrave : 6/10/2016 1:50 pm : link
In comment 12988979 Joey from GlenCove said:
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i dont understand why not give it your best every off season


I never ask this question when someone is trying to improve themselves and goes the extra effort to do so. Not everyone in any profession always does 100% in the offseason. When someone goes the extra effort they should be applauded not asked why they didn't do it earlier. IMO.
RE: Why didnt he do this the season before?  
BlueLou : 6/10/2016 2:01 pm : link
In comment 12988979 Joey from GlenCove said:
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i dont understand why not give it your best every off season


You didn't read the link. Apparently, a guy like Jerry needs to be invited to Bentley's camp. That happened only after Richburg vouched for him.

That's the most interesting part of the story IMO.
Very encouraging article.....  
Simms11 : 6/10/2016 2:03 pm : link
perhaps he will show in the running game this year. That would be a big and much needed surprise. Hopefully we'll see what the oline is capable of in pre-season. They'll need to bring it in game 1 at Dallas!

On another note, it would be nice if Richburg could get Flowers into Bentley's facility too!!!
So it's like  
Modus Operandi : 6/10/2016 2:04 pm : link
An Eyes Wide Shut sorta thing.
We can hope that Bentley + Solari = decent o-line play  
Ivan15 : 6/10/2016 2:05 pm : link
Jerry got paint splattered by the Miami mess, and it is now clear that Flaherty didn't coach up many players.

Physically, Jerry should be a good right guard. I would settle for "average" compared to the past couple of years.
The thing I always remember about Jerry  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/10/2016 2:15 pm : link
Was when the Dolphins were on Hard Knocks and Jerry was either in his rookie or second season. Coach Philbin sat him down and basically told him he was very talented but very lazy. I hope the lightbulb finally goes off for him
Now this is a quality article  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2016 2:20 pm : link
some good stuff in here, thanks Ranaan.
RE: I saw dramatic  
AP in Halfmoon : 6/10/2016 2:31 pm : link
In comment 12988971 WhoCares said:
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improvement in that video. He was noticeably quickly.


Do you watch a lot of film?
EVERY_4_JM1990  
widmerseyebrow : 6/10/2016 2:33 pm : link
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No video  
Giants2012 : 6/10/2016 2:36 pm : link
of his first step forward.
I look at Bentley's site almost every day.  
SuperRonJohnson : 6/10/2016 2:37 pm : link
He has a great work out system. If you coach offensive lineman, it's a must read! Richburg, Pugh, and Jerry, all put time in there.
RE: Why didnt he do this the season before?  
Randy in CT : 6/10/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 12988979 Joey from GlenCove said:
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i dont understand why not give it your best every off season
Really??

It clicked for him to do this special training.
Just be a solid  
crackerjack465 : 6/10/2016 2:39 pm : link
and the offense is nasty.

If we have a hole at RT? Well, 1 spot out of 11 isn't that bad. I feel very confident about the rest of our offense.

Honestly, on both sides of the ball, if RT is the only "weakspot", I think we could use one more LB but we have a lot of talent.
Certainly not a bad thing  
Brandon Walsh : 6/10/2016 2:43 pm : link
but no surprise is contract is up after this season. He hasn't relatively made much here either.
Nice article and great that he's making the effort considering  
glowrider : 6/10/2016 2:44 pm : link
He'd be warming the bench if we had any other options. Gotta take advantage of these opportunities when they come.

I agree as well that there is noticeable improvement demonstrated in the video attached to the article. Very noticeable.
great read, love stories like this in the offseason  
mfsd : 6/10/2016 2:48 pm : link
Richburg sure made a big leap in year 2 after training with LeCharles Bentley
"career-changing" offseason...  
Torrag : 6/10/2016 3:14 pm : link
...don't talk about it. Prove it on the field.
RE:  
Victor in CT : 6/10/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 12989196 Torrag said:
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...don't talk about it. Prove it on the field.


exactly.

RE:  
Randy in CT : 6/10/2016 3:19 pm : link
In comment 12989196 Torrag said:
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...don't talk about it. Prove it on the field.
Exactly. Eric? Shut down the site!!
at least he didn't have a "life changing operation"  
Victor in CT : 6/10/2016 3:22 pm : link
could have been worse. :-)
Right now, John Jerry is our starting RG.  
Klaatu : 6/10/2016 3:22 pm : link
That's not likely to change in 2016. Anything that helps make him a better player is a good thing. Bentley's camp, a Gluten-free diet, "magic" crystals, a trip to Lourdes...whatever.
BBI's trolls wish him well  
Deej : 6/10/2016 3:24 pm : link
in his new career.
RE:  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2016 3:28 pm : link
In comment 12989196 Torrag said:
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...don't talk about it. Prove it on the field.


"Hey John, what are you doing to get better?"

"I can't talk. Angry fans will be upset."
Wow!!!  
5BowlsSoon : 6/10/2016 3:30 pm : link
I absolutely love reading stories like,this. I feel much better with him. Thanks for the article.
Maybe the next year  
mrvax : 6/10/2016 3:32 pm : link
Flowers can join them. Good move for JJ. I applaud his effort.
i am not defending Jerry  
djm : 6/10/2016 3:37 pm : link
but everyone peaks at their own pace. I know I became more responsible on my own and it didn't necessarily come about due to some seismic event in my life. It sort of just happened. You learn from mistakes but don't necessarily practice better habits over night. Things need to present themselves in just the right order.

Some of you act like an individuals progressions and maturity and development is linear. It rarely is.
sorry for the typos  
djm : 6/10/2016 3:39 pm : link
my knowledge of the English language and grammar is still in need of improvement, obviously.
djm, all kidding aside I hope he does well because right now they have  
Victor in CT : 6/10/2016 3:44 pm : link
no alternative. BUT: it would be most unusual for a guy who has been at best average for 6 years to become a much better player in his 7th year.
RE: djm, all kidding aside I hope he does well because right now they have  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2016 3:52 pm : link
In comment 12989263 Victor in CT said:
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no alternative. BUT: it would be most unusual for a guy who has been at best average for 6 years to become a much better player in his 7th year.


He doesn't have to make a dramatic leap to help. Really, he just needs to become a decent run blocker.
You're right Victor  
djm : 6/10/2016 3:54 pm : link
but Jerry probably already upon things last year. I didn't think he'd even be serviceable and he was.

It can happen as unlikely as it may be. Plenty of players improved as they approached 30.
Good for Jerry (and us) if it helped.  
Jimmy Googs : 6/10/2016 3:55 pm : link
There is no quick magic to having a good O-Line. Our guys need to get better at every single they do.

And I love the influence Richburg is having on this team...
at the very least  
djm : 6/10/2016 3:56 pm : link
Jerry has been afforded the chance to play within the same system now for a few years. That can go a long way.

Show it during the season.  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/10/2016 4:05 pm : link
.
Before I stick my foot in it too far,  
81_Great_Dane : 6/10/2016 4:08 pm : link
let me admit I'm not clicking through to read the article. So I'm not responding to the article.

John Jerry isn't a kid and he's pretty much established a level in the league: He's a good pass protector and a weak run blocker. How good, and how bad, are debatable, but that's basically who he is.

It would be remarkable for him to suddenly take his game to another level at this point, to become a different, much better player. Hope he can.

But I'm skeptical.
RE: So it's like  
section125 : 6/10/2016 4:17 pm : link
In comment 12989054 Modus Operandi said:
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An Eyes Wide Shut sorta thing.


That movie was creepy.
Obviously  
ChicagoMarty : 6/10/2016 4:28 pm : link
if Jerry committed himself to this type of off season work earlier in his career he probably would not have ended up with the Jints

Light bulb coming on late is to the Jint benefit

Count blessings...
RE: Obviously  
David in LA : 6/10/2016 4:46 pm : link
In comment 12989336 ChicagoMarty said:
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if Jerry committed himself to this type of off season work earlier in his career he probably would not have ended up with the Jints

Light bulb coming on late is to the Jint benefit

Count blessings...


1) You need an invite to Bentley's off season camp.

2) Maybe he didn't have the greatest position coaches to clean up his technique (a big reason why we haven't developed any mid to late round OL prospects).


With that said, I'm cautiously optimistic he surprises us this season.
RE: Before I stick my foot in it too far,  
Randy in CT : 6/10/2016 4:48 pm : link
In comment 12989306 81_Great_Dane said:
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let me admit I'm not clicking through to read the article. So I'm not responding to the article.

John Jerry isn't a kid and he's pretty much established a level in the league: He's a good pass protector and a weak run blocker. How good, and how bad, are debatable, but that's basically who he is.

It would be remarkable for him to suddenly take his game to another level at this point, to become a different, much better player. Hope he can.

But I'm skeptical.
What was encouraging was obvious differences in his speed as they showed in those videos.
HE IS A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER  
ArcadeSlumlord : 6/10/2016 5:39 pm : link
Of COURSE he is SUPPOSED to do this! COME ON. Really? really? This is a story?
Did not read all the commentary  
TMS : 6/10/2016 6:19 pm : link
but Jerry working with and copying Richburgs stuff could pay big dividends. Jerry has the tools to be pretty good. Think he was a 4th round pick and never developed. Hope it happens
RE: HE IS A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/10/2016 6:26 pm : link
In comment 12989419 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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Of COURSE he is SUPPOSED to do this! COME ON. Really? really? This is a story?


Who says he's supposed to? He's "supposed" to show up for work at the specified times. That's all he's "supposed" to do.
RE: whoa  
NYDCBlue : 6/10/2016 6:47 pm : link
In comment 12988939 Greg from LI said:
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So Ranaan was the John Jerry troll???

Mind. Blown.


Beat me to it. :)
Was going to say EliMcAdoo....
Yes.  
Beezer : 6/10/2016 7:03 pm : link
That a lineman on our favorite football player seems to have taken the next step to improve his game ... IS a story.
Very glad  
mavric : 6/10/2016 7:28 pm : link
to hear he's had an epiphany and is putting in the extra work to improve himself. Would that every player took their job that seriously.
He's hearing Hart's footsteps  
Giants2012 : 6/10/2016 7:55 pm : link
Job security is quite a motivator.

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Tuckrule : 6/10/2016 9:11 pm : link
In comment 12988947 Modus Operandi said:
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John Jerry worked his butt off on his own time/money to be the best he possibly could.





Being the best he possibly could is still a below average starter. For his
career.


Yes let's be negative and not appreciate someone working at their craft and spending their own money to improve their game.
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LauderdaleMatty : 6/10/2016 9:26 pm : link
In comment 12988949 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12988947 Modus Operandi said:


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John Jerry worked his butt off on his own time/money to be the best he possibly could.



Being the best he possibly could is still a below average starter. For his career.



As said above Bentley is well reapected and doesn't tolerate anything but one's best efforts..If for the FIRST TIME EVER in the off-season Jerry has worked really hard on techniques, etc., I eager to see how that translates to the field..

I'm encouraged. But let's see


This. Hey Doc. Hope u are well. Never dog a guy for doing stuff to better themselves at their craft. Total to most pros. It's not always about talent but the willingness to put the extra time in to be a pro. Maybe he's it'll isn't great or even very good but this can't be a bad thing

Didn't Flowers w Bently too at some point this off season. Richberg may wind of being one of Reese's best picks period.
Weston Richburg  
Paulie Walnuts : 6/10/2016 9:48 pm : link
is the LEADER of that line, I LOVE this KID

we have our Center hopefully for 10 years
I don't know ...  
Beer Man : 6/11/2016 8:07 am : link
He has been professionally coached for six years, by different coaches and is still a big milk-toast when it comes to run blocking. I'm skeptical.
Yeah the LeCharles training was already discussed.  
Johnny5 : 6/11/2016 9:49 am : link
He an Bobby Hart also. That's why there has been some optimism about the two of them.
In all professions, careers, activities there are people  
BlueLou : 6/11/2016 9:50 am : link
Who give extreme effort to maximize their potential (Eli & Richburg) and guys who skate along largely on talent (Jerry, Reuben Randle) and guys in between.

Just because you make it to and survive several years at the NFL level doesn't mean you are busting your ass every off season to get better. Hell did LT ever hit the weights or even quit using drugs? He is the extremely rare case of a guy being so gifted in so many ways that all he head to do was play at 100% of his natural ability to be the greatest defender ever.

So I don't see where it should be assumed that every guy in the NFL busts his hump to max out his potential.

How can a Giants' fan be indifferent to Jerry finally trying harder?
Run blocking requires  
XBRONX : 6/11/2016 10:24 am : link
going forward, something John Jerry is not very good at.
John Jerry has become a recent social phenomenon  
Jimmy Googs : 6/11/2016 10:59 am : link
on BBI...

RE: He's hearing Hart's footsteps  
JM1990 : 6/11/2016 11:57 am : link
In comment 12989536 Giants2012 said:
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Job security is quite a motivator.


Again, for the one millionth time, Bobby Hart is playing RT, not RG.

Jerry isn't hearing footsteps from anyone. His job security is not in question - he is the starting RG of the Giants this year. No competition.

And Bobby Hart couldn't beat out Dallas Reynolds in Week 17 last year. Lol
.  
JM1990 : 6/11/2016 12:01 pm : link
John Jerry = Right Guard

Bobby Hart = Right Tackle

Hart is the EMERGENCY RG in case Jerry gets hurt (unlikely)



RE: .  
santacruzom : 6/12/2016 9:09 pm : link
In comment 12988947 Modus Operandi said:
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John Jerry worked his butt off on his own time/money to be the best he possibly could.



Being the best he possibly could is still a below average starter. For his career.


I know it's been fun to ridicule the odd John Jerry worshiper and all, but no one knows whether what you just said is remotely true yet.
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Modus Operandi : 6/15/2016 11:45 pm : link
In comment 12991220 santacruzom said:
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In comment 12988947 Modus Operandi said:


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John Jerry worked his butt off on his own time/money to be the best he possibly could.



Being the best he possibly could is still a below average starter. For his career.



I know it's been fun to ridicule the odd John Jerry worshiper and all, but no one knows whether what you just said is remotely true yet.


Sure we do. He's been a below average OG throughout his career. Look it up.
C'mon MO give it a rest. We know your opinion of Jerry  
BlueLou : 6/16/2016 6:50 am : link
and we know his performance over his career. We also know that going back as far as his draft profile he was considered very talented but an under-achiever.

We also know Richburg improved greatly from year 1 to 2, after participating in Bentley's program.

We don't know how the same program will affect Jerry. We simply don't.

I started MA training at 25 years old and received my black belt at 30 and was among the best in my class among several Bay Area schools. No one thought that would be the case when I started and was nicknamed "oak tree" because of how stiff I was. I had fantastic teachers and after the 1st year dedicated myself 6 days per week, 3 hours+ per day to training. By the end I was among the most limber of students and had learned an awful lot about how to be "soft" and use only the appropriate muscles in executing many movements.

Point being folks can change both their bodies and more importantly how they use their bodies dramatically at ages up to 30 and for pro athletes even beyond I assume.

Why be so adamant? You might well be right. Or wrong.
I love offseason rah rah Giants articles  
spike : 6/16/2016 7:03 am : link
We shall see in September
.  
arcarsenal : 6/16/2016 8:48 am : link
I'd actually be happy about this and give Jerry some credit if it weren't for this fucking toilet stain of a troll and his bizarre obsession.

Hopefully he does elevate his game, though. I'd rather the Giants be better off and deal with this jackass than the alternative.
I was a supporter of Ereck Flowers  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/16/2016 9:07 am : link
the minute he was selected.

But I don't understand the thinking that he can't be moved from his position. Posters seem to be equating that with a demotion.
RE: I was a supporter of Ereck Flowers  
BlueLou : 6/16/2016 9:36 am : link
In comment 12995965 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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the minute he was selected.

But I don't understand the thinking that he can't be moved from his position. Posters seem to be equating that with a demotion.

Wrong thread?
RE: RE: I was a supporter of Ereck Flowers  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/16/2016 9:47 am : link
In comment 12996022 BlueLou said:
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In comment 12995965 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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the minute he was selected.

But I don't understand the thinking that he can't be moved from his position. Posters seem to be equating that with a demotion.


Wrong thread?


Whoops, yeah, this belongs in the Eugene Monroe thread.
RE: C'mon MO give it a rest. We know your opinion of Jerry  
Modus Operandi : 6/16/2016 11:48 am : link
In comment 12995855 BlueLou said:
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and we know his performance over his career. We also know that going back as far as his draft profile he was considered very talented but an under-achiever.

We also know Richburg improved greatly from year 1 to 2, after participating in Bentley's program.

We don't know how the same program will affect Jerry. We simply don't.

I started MA training at 25 years old and received my black belt at 30 and was among the best in my class among several Bay Area schools. No one thought that would be the case when I started and was nicknamed "oak tree" because of how stiff I was. I had fantastic teachers and after the 1st year dedicated myself 6 days per week, 3 hours+ per day to training. By the end I was among the most limber of students and had learned an awful lot about how to be "soft" and use only the appropriate muscles in executing many movements.

Point being folks can change both their bodies and more importantly how they use their bodies dramatically at ages up to 30 and for pro athletes even beyond I assume.

Why be so adamant? You might well be right. Or wrong.


Help me understand this.

So because you achieved a black belt, that means John Jerry will suddenly take his craft seriously?

Richburg was known as a hard worker coming out. He needed to gain bulk and strength and refine his technique and he has. Because he's a hard worker.

It's simple. John Jerry has size and talent. What he lacks is desire to improve.
I'm a big fan of MO  
David in LA : 6/16/2016 1:29 pm : link
but MO might actually be more annoying about anything John Jerry than the actual John Jerry troll.
RE: RE: C'mon MO give it a rest. We know your opinion of Jerry  
arcarsenal : 6/16/2016 1:46 pm : link
In comment 12996318 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 12995855 BlueLou said:


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and we know his performance over his career. We also know that going back as far as his draft profile he was considered very talented but an under-achiever.

We also know Richburg improved greatly from year 1 to 2, after participating in Bentley's program.

We don't know how the same program will affect Jerry. We simply don't.

I started MA training at 25 years old and received my black belt at 30 and was among the best in my class among several Bay Area schools. No one thought that would be the case when I started and was nicknamed "oak tree" because of how stiff I was. I had fantastic teachers and after the 1st year dedicated myself 6 days per week, 3 hours+ per day to training. By the end I was among the most limber of students and had learned an awful lot about how to be "soft" and use only the appropriate muscles in executing many movements.

Point being folks can change both their bodies and more importantly how they use their bodies dramatically at ages up to 30 and for pro athletes even beyond I assume.

Why be so adamant? You might well be right. Or wrong.



Help me understand this.

So because you achieved a black belt, that means John Jerry will suddenly take his craft seriously?

Richburg was known as a hard worker coming out. He needed to gain bulk and strength and refine his technique and he has. Because he's a hard worker.

It's simple. John Jerry has size and talent. What he lacks is desire to improve.


Not for nothing, but I don't think he'd be taking part in a camp like this if he had no desire to improve. I think you can certainly make the claim that this was true in the past but his actions right now are kinda saying otherwise.

Did I just defend John Jerry?

Fuck. Well, whatever. Point remains. Does seem like the guy is trying to get better. We should all be hoping he does.
If Jerry was/is so great  
Giants2012 : 6/16/2016 2:36 pm : link
then why did he go to such lengths this offseason?

Didn't Jerry himself say he was lazy in pervious years?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/16/2016 2:42 pm : link
Pretty sure I read that when he was talking about what he learned at Bentley's OLine camp.
RE: If Jerry was/is so great  
djm : 6/16/2016 3:28 pm : link
In comment 12996636 Giants2012 said:
Quote:
then why did he go to such lengths this offseason?


Tell radar to step away from your pc and post under his own handle.

Some of you are fucking ridiculous. If you don't think Jerry has improved his play here with the Giants then you're simply not paying attention. He's not a good run blocker but his overall play has been adequate and if you told the Giants that 2-3 years ago they'd be thrilled. The guy has been a bargain here at the very least. Maybe even a steal.

Some of you guys wouldn't have survived the Tam Hopkins/Ian Allen  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/16/2016 3:34 pm : link
days.

Toughen up.
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