Now that the calamity of another Pens' Cup has occurred, everyone can move on to the business of getting to June 2017. The Rangers, obviously, have a lot of work to do to get back to being a contender. Word is the salary cap may actually shrink, which puts several teams, including NYR, CHI, and PIT in crunches. Should be an interesting couple of months!
Tarmo Reunanen is a bit off the board, but is a puck-moving defenseman. NYR addressing need in a serious way. Adam Herman. Reunanen is another gamble pick by NYR. Injury hurt his stock. With some luck, it's a bargain.
"Defenseman Tarmo Reunanen was a lynchpin as a top four defenseman for a surprisingly good Finnish club at this years Ivan Hlinka Memorial Tournament. Never shying away from opposition shots or physical play, Reunanen consistently battled in the corners, came away with pucks, and headily moved them up to his forward teammates. He finished the tournament with one assist along with six penalty minutes in five games.
Read more at http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/128355/2016-nhl-draft-qa-team-finland-defenseman-tarmo-reunanen/#xTIZHsBOmsRjmoQY.99"
Final Rank: 53, Midterm Rank: 33. 6' 0", Weight: 178
New York Rangers take Tim Gettinger . He's a 6'5" forward, he's a bit of a project but he has great hands and intriguing upside.
Corey Pronman @coreypronman
Rangers take Tim Gettinger. Came in with hype but under performed a little. I still like him as a big guy with decent hands who can PK.
Adam Herman @AdamZHerman
NYR take Tim Gettinger. I like the pick. He's big but also have offensive instincts. Definitelyt a fifth-round talent. @Halvy31 teammate.
OHL Prospects @BrockOtten
NYR take my highest ranked OHL player left, Tim Gettinger. Huge kid, great skater. Needs to play with more jam & use his size. Potential tho
What Scouts See
Bill Placzek, Draft Site
Oversized lanky wing with surprising feet and mobility, hockey sense and hands. has long term potential as an NHL power forward down the road. Plays on both the PP and PK. A three zone player with a good release, soft hands, and inside touch. Plays pretty strong with the puck and along the boards, and makes good decisions in all phases. Long term prospect with good upside.
HockeyProspect.com Black Book
Gettinger is a huge winger who has extremely skilled hands. He does a great job stickhandling around defenders despite lacking great skating ability to evade defenders. When he can combine this with good body positioning it makes it nearly impossible to get the puck off him. He has improved in this area, as he was too easy to knock off the puck early in the season. He has good positioning in the slot on the power play and has contributed to some goals here because of quick hands and the goaltenders inability to see past him.
Ranked #73 by Bob McKenzie
Ranked #95 by McKeen's Hockey
Jrme Brub
@Jerome_Berube
NYR goes with Gabriel Fontaine in the 6th round. Very happy with this pick. 2nd year eligible, we had Fontaine ranked 163.
Ranked #195 by Hockeyprospect.com
Ranked #30 by NHL Central Scouting (NA Goalies)
For Wall (good name for a Goalie). He's going to UMass-Lowell
it was said above for the Rangers 5th round pick.
does it mean he's a legit 5th round pick and is likely to never set foot in MSG or he's talented more than the 5th round typically dictates.
NHL odds of finding a contributor after the first few rounds are dismal.
Ty Ronning is basically a walking clich. Supremely talented forward who is 5'9 so scouts were scared off. This was the ideal pick.
Elite Prospects: A small but industrious speedster that always seeks to be engaged in the play. Skates very well and has the shiftiness to avoid being rubbed out. Isnt afraid of physical play, but knows his role as an offensive catalyst and plays to his strengths. Excellent hands and hockey sense. Only knock is his size, but that doesnt impede his compete level. Possesses the fundamental skills and natural goal scoring instincts that make the players around him better.
Future Considerations: Ronning, the son of former NHLer Cliff, is an offensive-minded forward just like his father. He is an explosive, wide-based skater who is able to quickly drive lanes and exploit mistakes on the ice. When he sees an opening, he uses his powerful first step to turn on the jets and jump to the attack, showing a great compete level around loose pucks. He complements this speed and shiftiness with great hands and solid intelligence. Ronning is a slippery player who can operate with the puck at high speed.
Once thought of as undersized and injury-prone, he started flying out of the ashes from the CHL prospects game and had a 30 goal and 59 point season, without the luxury of a high edn centreman to feed him the puck. Relentless in puck pursuit, very similar to his father, Cliff, a former NHLer. A quick agile skater who attacks the goalie with patience and cuts and weaves fearlessly in the attack zone, eventually having the goaltender commit and for him to capitalize. Can take a hit and make the play. Projects as a small fourth line NHLer with hustle and jump.
--Bill Placzek--
Sure, go back 16 years. Every 16 years you'll get a gem in the late rounds.
I was just asking how the author meant the comment.
the odds of NHL draft round success are well documented.
the 5th round "talent" has a 14% chance of playing in 100 NHL games.
Pick Appeared In NHL Played 100+ Games In NHL
Top-5 100% 96.3%
6-10 100% 78.1%
Rest of First Round 88.6% 63.0%
Second Round 65.7% 31.1%
Third Round 50.7% 27.9%
Fourth Round 36.0% 18.7%
Fifth Round 29.9% 14.2%
Sixth Round 30.0% 14.3%
Seventh Through Ninth Rounds 27.1% 11.6%
I'm definitely going to call him "Sheldon Day" more than once. #Draftsmixup
His mother was hospitalized with Lupus
His problem is between the ears. Not a great hockey IQ. Not clear that he LOVES hockey. If you can get thru to him, he's a top pair dman. If not, it's a #3. So what. He'll be in the OHL for two years which I think is bad news. He should play with men. Physically that's where he is, and with men he'd have to try harder. But I trust the Rangers to guide him to good decisions. Hopefully as he matures he commits to being great. Or we write him off.
Thats the rosy outlook.
The cloudy one: Seidel currently has Day ranked as the 32nd overall pick. He even knows a few in his scouting brethren that dont think Day will be drafted. At all.
Although he believes such a view is ludicrous, Seidel is certain there will be a lot of battles in (NHL) team scouting meetings when Days name comes up.
Hes one of the most unique players Ive ever scouted in my entire history doing this over 22 years, Seidel said. In a sense hes kind of like (2014 New York Islanders first-rounder and Niagara IceDog) Josh Ho-Sang, polarizing for different reasons. From a physical standpoint, this kid has tools NHL players dream about. Hes a linebacker on skates.
But he really lacks urgency. Hes got a real passive quality to his game. With his abilities, he could take the game over and simply dominate. Yet, he doesnt.
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That would be about three weeks earlier than in past expansion years. That will give the Las Vegas team more time to wheel and deal ahead of the expansion draft with teams wanting to pay a price in order to have Las Vegas not pick a certain player from their roster. Daly said the league has no issue with these types of trades as long as they're above-board.
"I think our feeling on that, and one of the reasons we'll have a player transaction window in advance, is that those deals are legitimate deals," said Daly. "Obviously clubs are getting value for making those commitments, but those commitments will be transparent and part of a bona fide player transaction, as opposed to handshakes before theyre able to do those."
We shall see.
We shall see.
Haven't seen that but it wouldn't be a bad signing. He's not the Vanek from 10 years ago, but he's still the sniper and PP player we need. He's still productive offensively. I think it'd also be another nail in the coffin for Nash.
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An NHL exec who just read my tweet on #Stamkos frontrunners: "Don't sleep on the #Islanders! They will make a push!"
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Obviously, no one knows what's in Day's heart and mind. If he can tap into even 50% of his talent level, he'll probably be an NHL regular. If he puts it all together, he's a potential Norris candidate. He has all the physical tools and skills you'd want in a defenseman. Big, powerful, great skater, great puck skills, crisp passes. He just doesn't produce all that much with those gifts yet. Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but in that round they definitely were right to pull the trigger. Duclair (*sniffle*) dropped for a lot of the same reasons. It's not an apples to apples comparison because Duclair wasn't considered to be the same level of talent in the first place and had produced at a high level before struggling through an injury-hampered year and had size concerns, but probably the major reason why he went in the third instead of the first is because Roy bagged on the kid and claimed he was lazy and disinterested.
The players that have also been given that provision are pretty special. Tavares, McDavid, guys like that. We'll see
Wade Redden hired by #preds as assistant director of player development.
Sometimes a failure to meet really high expectations causes evaluators to be blind to someone who is still a good player. Brett Hull was a 6th round pick because he was fat as a young player and teams thought he was coasting by on talent alone and lacked the work ethic to play
I don't know. I don't know enough about him.
Certainly sounds like there's a really high ceiling, though.. which is a big plus.
Certainly sounds like there's a really high ceiling, though.. which is a big plus.
Yeah, they say he's the epitome of a boom or bust guy. He'll either be out of the league or a superstar defenseman. I posted stuff about him when he was drafted.
Certainly sounds like there's a really high ceiling, though.. which is a big plus.
this guy sounds too good to be true, some people mature later than others. will be interesting to follow him.
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NHL draft picks are tougher than NFL and NBA because we actually get to see those guys play a good amount and know more about them as players when they're drafted. Everything I've read about Day tells me that there's huge value potential based on where we were able to get him but I've certainly never seen the guy play and didn't know he existed prior to the draft.
Certainly sounds like there's a really high ceiling, though.. which is a big plus.
this guy sounds too good to be true, some people mature later than others. will be interesting to follow him.
Yeah, I kind of agree but who knows. I'm not going to pretend I know anything about the kid but it's hard to believe that someone with size and talent like this lasted until rd. 3. Is his "want to" that questionable where there's a legitimate concern that he just doesn't like playing hockey all that much?
Good news. Get him out of juniors.
In a world where Matt Martin looks to be commanding $2.5m or more per year, it's hard to slam this deal.
And if the league finally ever gets a few consecutive years of cap growth, could ultimately look like a bargain.
pj - what are your thoughts??
In a world where Matt Martin looks to be commanding $2.5m or more per year, it's hard to slam this deal.
And if the league finally ever gets a few consecutive years of cap growth, could ultimately look like a bargain.
pj - what are your thoughts??
I feel like the NHL draft is more of a crapshoot than some of you, but the fact the Canadiens had to trade 2nd round picks for the right to pay Shaw that much doesn't feel right.
I have felt like Bergevin has done some good things, but this off-season so far is pretty questionable.
I wasn't a huge Lars Eller fan - though he was better defensively than Shaw, but it seems pretty much like a wash Shaw for Eller and then the two seconds in this year's draft give up for Shaw and in return for Eller two 2nds back but a 2nd in 2017 and one in 2018 from Washington.
seems like moves for the sake of moves unless Bergevin felt strongly this was just a pitiful draft after the first round.
Plus there's the whole homophobic slur suspension for Shaw.
The Canadiens are still built on Price, Subban, Paccioretty and Galchenyuk and to a lesser extent, Plekanec and Gallagher and then a bunch of Jags.
They need another top 6 forward and top 4 D-man.
So far they don't have either.
If they really are looking to get Rakell back in a Nash deal, one of Stepan/Brassard/Hayes would have to be headed out, I'd imagine. Center would be getting awfully crowded. If you put any stock into the notion that they're going to go hard for Stamkos, maybe they try to package one of those centers with Staal/Girardi.
Thanks in advance.
Should we be optimistic regarding offseason moves that will strengthen the team?
You would think Ledecky would not want to introduce himself if all the team did was lose Okposo and Nielsen.