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NYerInMA : 6/13/2016 10:07 am
Now that the calamity of another Pens' Cup has occurred, everyone can move on to the business of getting to June 2017. The Rangers, obviously, have a lot of work to do to get back to being a contender. Word is the salary cap may actually shrink, which puts several teams, including NYR, CHI, and PIT in crunches. Should be an interesting couple of months!
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Actually, scratch that. You're right, NYer in MA  
Anakim : 6/16/2016 5:03 pm : link
He misreported. There is indeed a modified NMC for 2017-2019.
Saw that  
NYerInMA : 6/16/2016 5:04 pm : link
but you're missing the distinction.
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RE: I wonder if the Stars now will be in the Marc Staal picture  
bigbluehoya : 6/16/2016 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12996851 Anakim said:
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Nichushkin for Staal! Make it happen!


They had to let at least one D walk because of $. Near zero chance they'd look at Staal. Sounds like they've got NHL ready youngsters to slide up.
RE: Look at the Coyotes per Brett's post by some unknown guy  
pjcas18 : 6/16/2016 6:49 pm : link
In comment 12996885 Anakim said:
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They have more cap space than they know what to do with. They MIGHT be interested in Girardi to reach the cap floor.

But would Girardi waive his NMC to go to Arizona? Methinks not. Why would he? Is Arizona appealing? Maybe, but are the Coyotes any good? In the future, maybe but next year? Probably not.


The Coyotes are still paying Chris Pronger NEXT YEAR not to play so they could reach the salary floor. I get the feeling they're not so concerned with quality.

he hasn't been on the ice in 4 years.

I do wonder if they'll have a retirement ceremony for him after next year. as a joke or if they don't consider it funny.

This will be his second year on the Coyotes just to reach the salary floor. Don't bother getting actual players, spend $5M on Pronger.

I am sure there is shit I don't understand about that.
Umberger  
pjcas18 : 6/16/2016 7:34 pm : link
bought out
Trade  
pjcas18 : 6/16/2016 7:59 pm : link
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Alex Goligoski: NHL Defenseman Traded From Dallas Stars to Arizona Coyotes
The 10-year veteran was dealt Thursday in exchange for a 2016 fifth-round draft pick. Goligoski has played in 562 NHL games and won the Stanley Cup as a member of the Pittsburgh Penguins in 2009.
Goligoski wasn't traded, per se  
pganut : 6/16/2016 8:22 pm : link
Yotes acquired his negotiating rights. If not signed by July 1, he becomes an UFA. My guess is they do sign him, but there's a chance he never ends up there.
RE: Goligoski wasn't traded, per se  
Davisian : 6/16/2016 8:49 pm : link
In comment 12997130 pganut said:
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Yotes acquired his negotiating rights. If not signed by July 1, he becomes an UFA. My guess is they do sign him, but there's a chance he never ends up there.



Acquired him via trade.


Are we going to have to spend this whole thread explaining things to Islanders fans?


You people are the worst. per se



Hey....progress  
pganut : 6/16/2016 8:52 pm : link
You acknowledged we're people! Mooovin' on up...

Don't you have a pack of smokes to go through at a Phish concert or something, nature boy?
LOL  
pjcas18 : 6/16/2016 8:55 pm : link
"per se"

classic
We should do the same thing with Yandle if we can't re-sign him  
Anakim : 6/16/2016 10:03 pm : link
We need the picks
It's be great to get a pick for Yandle  
Davisian : 6/16/2016 10:29 pm : link
But not sure why anyone gave up one for Goligoski.

They're both top names on the UFA list and will get paid well. Absolutely no reason to sign a contract at this point with anyone without listening to the market.




Malkin  
Rover : 6/16/2016 10:44 pm : link
Might need tommy john surgery, MRI on Friday I believe.
Not a shocker, but Okposo  
bigbluehoya : 6/17/2016 10:51 am : link
About at close to "officially" done with NYI as possible at this point.

Apparently Snow just used the phrase "we wish him nothing but be best" in an interview this morning.
RE: Not a shocker, but Okposo  
pjcas18 : 6/17/2016 10:53 am : link
In comment 12997933 bigbluehoya said:
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About at close to "officially" done with NYI as possible at this point.

Apparently Snow just used the phrase "we wish him nothing but be best" in an interview this morning.


MTL a rumored destination.
RE: Not a shocker, but Okposo  
Dave M : 6/17/2016 12:18 pm : link
In comment 12997933 bigbluehoya said:
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About at close to "officially" done with NYI as possible at this point.

Apparently Snow just used the phrase "we wish him nothing but be best" in an interview this morning.


It was going to be tough to resign him anyway but that Voracek deal last season sealed it imo. Kyle will be missed and the Neil Smith era has come to an end.
Islanders fans...  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/17/2016 12:27 pm : link
Last year I went to the Blue & White scrimmage at Barclay's Center and it was a good time. About 8,000 people there. It's a scrimmage between all of the Islanders top prospects, followed by a skills competition.

So I picked up a pair of tix this year and didn't read the fine print... and by fine print I mean the bold, obvious print on the email. It's in East Meadow at the Northwell Health Ice Center. I can't make it out to Long Island for that.

Anyone want the tickets? No charge. Two available.
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Datsyuk heading back to Russia  
Davisian : 6/17/2016 12:51 pm : link
Wings will be on the hook.

RE: Datsyuk heading back to Russia  
pjcas18 : 6/17/2016 12:57 pm : link
In comment 12998140 Davisian said:
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Wings will be on the hook.


One of my favorite players to watch. So creative, excellent two-way player, one of the best I've seen, would have been a hall-of-famer if he came to the NHL earlier. Datsyuk is like a slightly better Bergeron - only slightly better fro an offensive skill standpoint - not even necessarily points, just skill - hard to describe.

Not shedding a tear for Detroit.

RE: Seth  
SethFromAstoria : 6/17/2016 5:56 pm : link
In comment 12996873 Anakim said:
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What's your point? Either way, it severely limits our options. Plus, a contender wouldn't necessarily be an interested party. Why? Because Girardi sucks and they allocate their cap space in more efficient ways than shitty teams do. A shitty team, however, that needs to reach the cap floor might be interested in Girardi's contract. However, not that we know he has a full NMC for the duration of his contract, I think it's safe to say that he won't waive it to go to a shitty team and/or a shitty city.



I guess what my point is, is that it doesn't limit anything if they want to get rid of him. What it does indicate is that the Rangers as an organization have many people in charge that don't know how bad he is even through they watch him play 20 minutes and practice everyday. It's a wonder they can put a pro team out there if they don't know that they have such a detrimental player. However I'm saying you won't shut up about this NMC and I'm saying its not relevant if the team wants him gone at all costs. So why even talk about it as though it's the major issue.
RE: RE: Seth  
Anakim : 6/17/2016 5:58 pm : link
In comment 12998652 SethFromAstoria said:
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In comment 12996873 Anakim said:


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What's your point? Either way, it severely limits our options. Plus, a contender wouldn't necessarily be an interested party. Why? Because Girardi sucks and they allocate their cap space in more efficient ways than shitty teams do. A shitty team, however, that needs to reach the cap floor might be interested in Girardi's contract. However, not that we know he has a full NMC for the duration of his contract, I think it's safe to say that he won't waive it to go to a shitty team and/or a shitty city.




I guess what my point is, is that it doesn't limit anything if they want to get rid of him. What it does indicate is that the Rangers as an organization have many people in charge that don't know how bad he is even through they watch him play 20 minutes and practice everyday. It's a wonder they can put a pro team out there if they don't know that they have such a detrimental player. However I'm saying you won't shut up about this NMC and I'm saying its not relevant if the team wants him gone at all costs. So why even talk about it as though it's the major issue.


Because it is for exactly the reason(s) I stated. A shitty team might be interested in getting Girardi only to reach the cap floor. However, would Girardi accept a trade to a shitty team? Probably not.
Ahti Oskanen  
bigbluehoya : 6/18/2016 9:04 am : link
Signed a 1 year deal with the Wolfpack. Some people thought he could be signed to an NHL roster straight away. Sounds like he's got some real potential.
Some Islanders tidbits  
pganut : 6/19/2016 10:28 am : link
From Staple's article yesterday, based on Snow's Friday appearance on NHL on XM:
- Sources indicated that Snow would be willing to move that first-round pick as part of a package for an established NHL forward if the Isles GM can find a deal to his liking.
- With an expectation of the cap being flat, some specualtion that some surprising names in the NHL may be moved.
- Sources indicated that Snow and Marc Levine, Frans Nielsens agent, have been in contact on a long-term deal in recent days.
- Snow said on Friday he doesnt see a trade to move up the draft board, but perhaps down to collect an extra pick.
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I dont think well try to move up. Its tough, he said. We dont have a second round pick. We traded our third round pick to get Shane Prince at the deadline this year. In order to maneuver up in the draft, you usually need more draft picks. Were happy with the prospects we have, so I dont envision us trading one of them, or anyone from our current lineup to move up.

Names being heard for possible picks at 19 if the Isles retain their pick: Long Beachs Charlie McAvoy (D), who currently attends Boston University. Among forwards, winger Kieffer Bellows, son of former NHLer Brian, would be a catch; so would Alex DeBrincat, the 5-foot-7 Michigan native who has back-to-back 51-goal seasons for Erie of the Ontario League, where DeBrincat played with Connor McDavid and Dylan Strome.

Personally, if available at the Isles' pick, I'd be happy with Julien Gauthier. 6'4", 225lb RW with Val D'Or in the Q. Explosive, nasty, skilled and coachable.
No better way to spend  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2016 9:01 am : link
5 minutes this morning than watching this video on the legacy of Pavel Datsyuk
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some guy named James Mirtle  
bigbluehoya : 6/20/2016 10:16 am : link
mentions Arizona as a destination for Stepan.

Also separately tweeted that there will be at least one trade today. At this point on the calendar you could blindly say something like that and hit with 70%+ accuracy, but I'm thirsting for news so I'll consciously decide to put some stock in it.


Rangers home opener is 10/13 against the Islanders.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/20/2016 12:04 pm : link
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Well as a season ticket holder...  
MetsAreBack : 6/20/2016 12:22 pm : link
that is annoying. Islanders are an easy sell at any time - wish they hosted a non-rival opponent for the opener.
Habs  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2016 12:22 pm : link
open 10/18 against the Pens.
Figure this is the week  
Kyle in NY : 6/20/2016 12:23 pm : link
for the Rangers to make their moves. Should be interesting. No idea what to expect.
RE: Figure this is the week  
Anakim : 6/20/2016 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13000931 Kyle in NY said:
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for the Rangers to make their moves. Should be interesting. No idea what to expect.


My prediction is Derek Stepan gets traded before or during the Draft
Feels like something big is coming  
Kyle in NY : 6/20/2016 12:38 pm : link
I agree. Word is that just about everyone short of Hank and McD have been discussed.
RE: Feels like something big is coming  
Anakim : 6/20/2016 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13000973 Kyle in NY said:
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I agree. Word is that just about everyone short of Hank and McD have been discussed.


I agree. And I do think the Rangers will make a run at Stamkos at Sather's urging.
Islanders home opener, October 16 vs. the Ducks  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/20/2016 12:54 pm : link
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RE: Islanders home opener, October 16 vs. the Ducks  
Anakim : 6/20/2016 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13000992 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Ours is against you bastids on the 13th
Based on the complete list of openers  
NYerInMA : 6/20/2016 1:11 pm : link
It looks like opening night is Oct. 12th, and features SL @ CHI, CAL @ EDM, TOR @ OTT, and LA @ SJ.
RE: RE: Islanders home opener, October 16 vs. the Ducks  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/20/2016 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13001008 Anakim said:
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In comment 13000992 Mike in Long Beach said:


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Ours is against you bastids on the 13th


Yep, Brett posted it above!
According to Staple  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/20/2016 1:11 pm : link
Your home opener against us is our first game of the year, overall.
Isles are also the Caps' home opener on 10/15  
pganut : 6/20/2016 1:15 pm : link
Three games in 4 nights to start the season. That's about right.
I believe this is the 1st time the Rangers play the Islanders in a...  
Drewcon40 : 6/20/2016 1:16 pm : link
...home opener since 1997. I recently found a bunch of VHS tapes and popped them in. I had that game on tape. 1st regular season game post Messier part 1. Bryan Berard and Brian Leetch (new Rangers captain) were the talk of pregame.

I love the summer but man do I miss hockey already.
I would love to trade the  
The 12th Man : 6/20/2016 1:50 pm : link
rights to Kyle Okoposo for a draft pick. This is going to be a very important off season for the Islanders. I am very interested in seeing how this off season plays out.
Andersen goalie from ducks  
Fish : 6/20/2016 5:23 pm : link
Traded to leafs for draft picks
It's so hard being so popular  
Anakim : 6/20/2016 5:26 pm : link
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‏@adater Adrian Dater Retweeted Darren Dreger
Shattenkirk wants to play for the Rangers, but no cap room
RE: Andersen goalie from ducks  
pganut : 6/20/2016 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13001478 Fish said:
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Traded to leafs for draft picks
Freddy Andersen to TOR in exchange for a 2016 1st rounder (looks like pick #30) and 2017 2nd rounder.
...  
MetsAreBack : 6/20/2016 5:32 pm : link
I do think Shattenkirk will be a Ranger this year. It will cost us McIlraith+ going to St Louis, and Stepan will likely also be traded for picks to give us the cap space, but I think KS will be Yandle's replacement.

I'd much rather deal Nash and Staal.... than Stepan and other younger players... but there seems to be a lot of smoke here... Stepan sounds like a goner.
Toronto  
MetsAreBack : 6/20/2016 5:33 pm : link
I mean I don't know what their timeline/gameplan is, but Anderson + Stamkos + Yandle... if that's the direction they go while holding onto JVR... I mean they could be back to the postseason as soon as this year.
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BrettNYG10 : 6/20/2016 5:37 pm : link
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Hearing FLA working on a trade to acquire rights to Keith Yandle from NYR
Lot of Yandle talk out there on twitter  
Giants2012 : 6/20/2016 5:38 pm : link
Two picks and Panthers ?
.  
Anakim : 6/20/2016 5:43 pm : link
George Richards--Verified account
‏@GeorgeRichards
.@FlaPanthers getting the negotiating rights to UFA defenseman Keith Yandle for a draft pick as well as a conditional if he signs.
6th rounder apparently  
MetsAreBack : 6/20/2016 5:51 pm : link
well.. we had no shot at him anyway.
do you guys like Shattenkirk  
pjcas18 : 6/20/2016 5:56 pm : link
better than Yandle?

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