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NYerInMA : 6/13/2016 10:07 am
Now that the calamity of another Pens' Cup has occurred, everyone can move on to the business of getting to June 2017. The Rangers, obviously, have a lot of work to do to get back to being a contender. Word is the salary cap may actually shrink, which puts several teams, including NYR, CHI, and PIT in crunches. Should be an interesting couple of months!
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Pat Leonard  
bigbluehoya : 6/24/2016 5:53 pm : link
Tweeted a short time ago that Gorton is trying to move "Girardi and/or M Staal"?

Doesn't mean a god damned thing, but it's at least nice to hear it.
RE: Pat Leonard  
Anakim : 6/24/2016 6:24 pm : link
In comment 13008234 bigbluehoya said:
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Tweeted a short time ago that Gorton is trying to move "Girardi and/or M Staal"?

Doesn't mean a god damned thing, but it's at least nice to hear it.


For the love of God, please let there be a Bob Gainey among the GMs. Shit, I don't even need a McDonagh return. Just take them for free.
On the NHLN coverage  
pganut : 6/24/2016 6:38 pm : link
Did I just hear the World Cup will be shown on ESPN? Ugh. I shudder to start to think about who they can pull in to broadcast. I did enjoy Thorne and Clement back in the day, though.

Question: do you guys want a separate draft thread to discuss that and draft related trades, or keep it all here? I don't have strong feelings either way but figured it was worth asking.
Might as well do a separate one  
JayBinQueens : 6/24/2016 6:41 pm : link
that way people don't need to scroll through multiple pages to find the draft stuff
Keep it here  
Kyle in NY : 6/24/2016 6:42 pm : link
I'd say
I'd vote for new draft thread  
Fish : 6/24/2016 6:47 pm : link
Lots of scrolling here
Not enough voters, stays here  
pganut : 6/24/2016 7:02 pm : link
It just seems weird that the NHL Network wouldn't be broadcasting the NHL Draft.
Treliving, Kekalainen and Chia Pet all very active in discussions  
pganut : 6/24/2016 7:07 pm : link
Kek and Treliving apparently have spoken extensively 4 times tonight. Something brewing.
McKenzie reporting  
pganut : 6/24/2016 7:08 pm : link
Unconfirmed, but CBJ has traded Sonny Milano.
Is it me  
Fish : 6/24/2016 7:26 pm : link
Or does the Austin Mathews family seem miserable?
Lars Eller  
Fish : 6/24/2016 7:28 pm : link
To Caps. Shaw to Habs
Per Staples, Snow and Gorton were seen talking.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/24/2016 7:29 pm : link
We're ready for Tavares.
RE: Per Staples, Snow and Gorton were seen talking.  
Patrick : 6/24/2016 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13008309 BrettNYG10 said:
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We're ready for Tavares.


Shit. I hope not, but Brett is usually on point.
RE: Per Staples, Snow and Gorton were seen talking.  
pganut : 6/24/2016 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13008309 BrettNYG10 said:
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We're ready for Tavares.
Nah, they were discussing how funny it was that B in ALB had to keep getting stuck watching Sabres games.
Haha.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/24/2016 7:36 pm : link
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I'd have to think  
pganut : 6/24/2016 7:41 pm : link
With EDM in a great spot to grab Puljujarvi, there's a greater likelihood they can deal Hall, RNH or Eberle and feel ok if so inclined. Can also see Yak moved in a lesser deal.
RE: I'd have to think  
Fish : 6/24/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13008316 pganut said:
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With EDM in a great spot to grab Puljujarvi, there's a greater likelihood they can deal Hall, RNH or Eberle and feel ok if so inclined. Can also see Yak moved in a lesser deal.


Yup
pj  
JayBinQueens : 6/24/2016 8:06 pm : link
what do you think of the Eller trade to Washington?

Mtl got 2017 & 2018 2nd round picks for Lars
Looks like Elliott moving from STL to CGY  
pganut : 6/24/2016 8:09 pm : link
Trade reported shortly
RE: Looks like Elliott moving from STL to CGY  
NYerInMA : 6/24/2016 8:12 pm : link
In comment 13008332 pganut said:
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Trade reported shortly


Frees up the goalie logjam in SL, and gets CAL a quality starter. Good move for both teams depending on other assets being moved with them.
Getting close to #15, which is the Wild spot  
Anakim : 6/24/2016 8:13 pm : link
Let's see if Stepan gets traded
Friedman saying STL gets CGY 1st this year  
pganut : 6/24/2016 8:19 pm : link
And if Elliott re-signs in CGY, they also send a 2018 3rd rounder to STL.
My mistakee  
pganut : 6/24/2016 8:20 pm : link
StL gets CGY's 2016 2nd and the conditional pick.
.  
Anakim : 6/24/2016 8:26 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC
OTT might be flipping with NJ
RE: pj  
pjcas18 : 6/24/2016 8:26 pm : link
In comment 13008329 JayBinQueens said:
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what do you think of the Eller trade to Washington?

Mtl got 2017 & 2018 2nd round picks for Lars


basically Eller for Shaw. like both players, logjam at C for MTL, but Shaw is better, hopefully they sign him.
Pretty sure the Devils  
SethFromAstoria : 6/24/2016 8:31 pm : link
Just made the best trade in sports history.
That trade  
SethFromAstoria : 6/24/2016 8:34 pm : link
Makes Ottawa undeserving of any success in any scenario...people flip the fuck out and go nuts aboit "assets' draft wise and the Senators just handed a third founder to the Devils to hedge their bets. That's how much these teams value these picks. So for the next guy who flips out over the awful front office of the Rangers trading a 5th rounder, remember this trade and come back to reality.
That trade  
SethFromAstoria : 6/24/2016 8:44 pm : link
Makes Ottawa undeserving of any success in any scenario...people flip the fuck out and go nuts aboit "assets' draft wise and the Senators just handed a third founder to the Devils to hedge their bets. That's how much these teams value these picks. So for the next guy who flips out over the awful front office of the Rangers trading a 5th rounder, remember this trade and come back to reality.
Could be something, could be nothing  
pganut : 6/24/2016 8:50 pm : link
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Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday
Snow huddling with George McPhee and a few others from #Isles front office at their table. 6 picks away from 19. Lot of huddling tonight.
Maybe they just like snuggling.
RE: That trade  
yatqb : 6/24/2016 8:52 pm : link
In comment 13008362 SethFromAstoria said:
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Makes Ottawa undeserving of any success in any scenario...people flip the fuck out and go nuts aboit "assets' draft wise and the Senators just handed a third founder to the Devils to hedge their bets. That's how much these teams value these picks. So for the next guy who flips out over the awful front office of the Rangers trading a 5th rounder, remember this trade and come back to reality.


Seth, when's the last time the Rangers had a #1? There's reason to be concerned about Sather's stripping the team of draft choices to land older guys whose cap hits made them impossible to keep, or who were old enough that they weren't worth keeping by the end of their time in NY.
Beware of a fake McKenzie Twitter  
bigbluehoya : 6/24/2016 9:04 pm : link
Account peddling Kreider to Edm for RNH.

Very convincing looking fake. Z and N flipped in the handle
That's a shit deal for Ari  
bigbluehoya : 6/24/2016 9:14 pm : link
That kid just got worked
Clearing Datsyuk's salary  
pganut : 6/24/2016 9:18 pm : link
Lets DET in the game financially to sign Stamkos if he leaves TB.
That trade is a windfall for Detroit  
bigbluehoya : 6/24/2016 9:21 pm : link
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Looks  
Giantfootball025 : 6/24/2016 9:39 pm : link
like I got sucked into the media frenzy of them telling us that a crazy amounts of trades were going to happen. Damn it.
Good pick in Bellows  
pganut : 6/24/2016 9:48 pm : link
Won't help immediately as he'll go to BU, which is fine since he'll grow another couple of inches and add weight. 6 feet, 183 lbs currently. 18 years old.

NHLN guys just said he's the best pure goalscorer in the draft outside of Laine. Kid says he likes to mix it up and get to the dirty areas.

For the US U18 National team developmental program in 2016, he was 50-31-81 in 62 games (with 101 PIMs). Also was 16-16-32 in 23 USHL games in 2016.
Nice MN article on Bellows - ( New Window )
Was hoping for a trade  
JayBinQueens : 6/24/2016 9:53 pm : link
But bellows sounds like he can replace MDC or ho sang if they go that route
Is  
Giantfootball025 : 6/24/2016 9:58 pm : link
Bellows father the "tit fucker"?
Get off the ice Bellows - ( New Window )
More on Bellows  
pganut : 6/24/2016 10:02 pm : link
From thedraftanalyst.com:
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Bellows is a well-built goal scorer with a low center of gravity who can play a punishing, heavy yet cerebral game. Hes a good skater with tremendous balance and moves well laterally. And while he used play center for Edinas powerhouse high school program, Bellows is most certainly better suited as a shooter from the flank. Hes built like a Mack truck and plays with fire, using tremendous athleticism and work ethic to maintain his compete level, even during extended shifts. Hes extremely difficult to move off the puck, and hes proven to be a load to handle for some of the NCAAs bigger defensemen. Bellows is a hard, accurate passer, but can also feather a pass off the rush or lead his teammates with timing and precision.

Bellows approach towards every shift is to keep himself involved at all times in order to acquire the puck, using his physical gifts and wide frame to protect it as he maneuvers towards the net. Take our word for it if a defender is nervous going back for the puck, Bellows will sniff it out and exploit that fear. He plays an aggressive, sometimes stubborn game, often too much for his own good. Getting whistled for bad penalties is a habit hes had since high school, and fixing that should be a training objective when he plays for Boston University next season. When he keeps his emotions in check, however, he can be an unstoppable force.

I also like this tweet from the writer on that website:
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Steve Kournianos @TheDraftAnalyst

Isles take heavy-hitting sniper Kieffer Bellows. Mean and hard to play against. Undoubtedly will annoy NYR fans
RE: More on Bellows  
Drewcon40 : 6/24/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13008441 pganut said:
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From thedraftanalyst.com:

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I also like this tweet from the writer on that website:

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Steve Kournianos @TheDraftAnalyst

Isles take heavy-hitting sniper Kieffer Bellows. Mean and hard to play against. Undoubtedly will annoy NYR fans



I'm already annoyed that you posted this pg! : )
Love it  
Fish : 6/24/2016 10:15 pm : link
I like mean goal scorers.
RE: RE: More on Bellows  
pganut : 6/24/2016 10:16 pm : link
In comment 13008448 Drewcon40 said:
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Steve Kournianos @TheDraftAnalyst

Isles take heavy-hitting sniper Kieffer Bellows. Mean and hard to play against. Undoubtedly will annoy NYR fans


I'm already annoyed that you posted this pg! : )
Sorry, Drew...when I saw the writer make that comment, I couldn't resist!
Absolutely brutal two days for Knicks and Rangers fans  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 10:29 am : link
No first or second rounders for either team. BOOOPOOOOOOOORING
Was surprised the Flyers didn't take Bellows  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/25/2016 10:38 am : link
and then they moved down and ended up with the Russian C. I like Bellows and think he will be a good Islander.
Devs take Nathan Bastian at 41  
Dunedin81 : 6/25/2016 10:38 am : link
Certainly a dearth of RW talent in the org.
Stamkos is a pipedream for the Rangers  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 10:40 am : link
Sounds like he'll either remain with the Lightning or sign a huge deal with the Sabres or Red Wings.
Devils trade for Beau Bennett  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 11:12 am : link
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
New Jerrsey acquires Beau Bennett from Pittsburgh for pick No. 77. Ray Shero getting one of his old kids back.
With their third rounder, the Rangers take D Sean Day of the OHL  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 11:20 am : link
58th ranked by TSN.

Frank SeravalliVerified account ‏@frank_seravalli
#NYR select Sean Day with the 81st pick, a player who was granted exceptional status in the #OHL as a 15-year-old.


Ryan Kennedy ‏@THNRyanKennedy
Rangers take Sean Day with their first pick. There is obviously a lot of risk here (commitment?), but high potential, too (great skater).
More on Sean Day from Detroit:  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 11:27 am : link
Ranked 59th among North American skaters in the NHL Central Scouting Final Rankings


Blueshirt Bulletin ‏@NYRBlueBulletin
A few years back he was considered a potential top-end first rounder. Has the potential to be a very nice pickup for the Blueshirts.
Day is 6'2" and 229 lbs. Described by Elite Prospects as a mobile two-way defender who boats elite skill.

Sean Hartnett ‏@HartnettHockey
Sean Day, a left-handed d-man collected 22 pts (six goals, 16 assists) in 57 last season for Mississauga. #NYR prospect listed at 6'2", 228.


Adam Herman ‏@AdamZHerman
Sean Day has everything you want in terms of the toolbox. Good size, great skater. He hasn't put it together yet.
Sean Day (just to annoy Fish)  
Anakim : 6/25/2016 11:35 am : link
A mobile two-way defenceman who boasts an elite level skill package. Strong on the forecheck and delivers hard shots and crisp passes. His consistency and enthusiasm exhibited at the game's defining moments does seem to wane, and the pressure felt seems to impact his decision-making slightly. When focusing on simplifying his game and getting all the little things right, he becomes a forceful impact that is hungry to be a difference maker. All-in-all, a talented two-way defenceman who has all of the raw abilities in place to become an elite defenceman, but has yet to put it all together and prove that he can thrive in the driver's seat. (Curtis Joe, EP 2015) - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=228106#sthash.ZxtKFBEB.dpuf



Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN
Day was born in Belgium. In 2013 at 15yo became just 4th player to receive OHL exception status after Tavares, Ekblad, McDavid


^^^I'd say that's pretty good company


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